[quote]orion wrote:
Once again, Islam has no central authority.
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I know. And once again, EVERY Shia and Sunni school of Islamic jurisprudence teaches jihad. Robert Spencer has already been over this exact point ad nauseum and has proved his case. I have plenty of sources.
Oh my, that took me all of 2 minutes.
For most Sunnis, who just so happen to be the overwhelming majority of all Muslims, jihad is not one of the five pillars of their faith.
It is somewhere in their faith, yes, with a wide variety of meanings, which include taking arms if the Umma is threatened.
To sell that as a basic tenet is not a stretch, it is a lie.
Excuse me: CENTRAL tenet
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Once again, Islam has no central authority.
[/quote]
I know. And once again, EVERY Shia and Sunni school of Islamic jurisprudence teaches jihad. Robert Spencer has already been over this exact point ad nauseum and has proved his case. I have plenty of sources.[/quote]
Jihad as in?
Which would still not make it a basic tenet by the way.
[quote]WW3General wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Really though, let’s find all the pedophiles and put them on an island somewhere while we wait for them to finish cloning those dinosaurs. We could make a sport out of it.[/quote]
That would be cool. I think we should save the pedo’s for the ones they molested and when the victims become a certain age they can do what they want with them.[/quote]
No fuck you
you won’t take my dinosaur games away from me
rawr
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Once again, Islam has no central authority.
[/quote]
I know. And once again, EVERY Shia and Sunni school of Islamic jurisprudence teaches jihad. Robert Spencer has already been over this exact point ad nauseum and has proved his case. I have plenty of sources.[/quote]
Jihad as in?
Which would still not make it a basic tenet by the way. [/quote]
Jihad as in ‘personal struggle’ or something - absolutely.
Also, whether it’s a central tenet is merely semantics. Jihad is as central to Islam as proselytising is to Christianity.
[quote]WW3General wrote:
Zeb- are you really that ignorant and violent? And all I get from you is insults and veiled threats?[/quote]
You are typical of your ilk.
You said [quote]The world would be such a great place without you fuckers in it.[/quote]
Yet, when I respond you attempt to turn it around as if I were the first one to attack? As I said you’re an idiot. As only an idiot would begin a thread of this nature. You attempted to provoke a strong response and you got it. Some call that being a troll as I said before either way you’re an idiot.
It was you who said that religious people have caused more violence than the secular. Are you now changing your mind? Or did you never really believe your own supposition? Which once again makes you a troll.
And let me give you a “life lesson,”
All men are capable of violence regardless of religion. Don’t understand that yet? If you run your mouth to people in your personal life as you do on the Internet you’ll eventually
understand. And I’d like you to think of me when you do get it.
You’re not surprised that when you said
that I responded in kind?
Well you are a regular Einstein aren’t you?
When did I say that I wanted to espouse religious kindness and acceptance? Are you having a problem keeping all of the people that think you’re an idiot straight? If you are looking for kindness you don’t start a thread attacking an entire religion. Only an idiot does that.
I’ve actually only used that line (or anything like it)one time in almost ten years of posting on T nation. And that was directed at a spineless wonder boy like you who wanted me taken out of this world. Is this stuff difficult for you to udnerstand?
And I’m still positive that you can’t take me out.
What you are capable of however is to sit on the sideline of life and anonymously throw out inflammatory speech and expect everyone to be happy with your little act.
So in addition to being an idiot you’re also a coward…Ah nothing new to you, I’m sure you’ve heard it all before.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Once again, Islam has no central authority.
[/quote]
I know. And once again, EVERY Shia and Sunni school of Islamic jurisprudence teaches jihad. Robert Spencer has already been over this exact point ad nauseum and has proved his case. I have plenty of sources.[/quote]
Jihad as in?
Which would still not make it a basic tenet by the way. [/quote]
Jihad as in ‘personal struggle’ or something - absolutely.
Also, whether it’s a central tenet is merely semantics. Jihad is as central to Islam as proselytising is to Christianity.[/quote]
Just about as much, yes.
Meaning almost noone does it.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Once again, Islam has no central authority.
[/quote]
I know. And once again, EVERY Shia and Sunni school of Islamic jurisprudence teaches jihad. Robert Spencer has already been over this exact point ad nauseum and has proved his case. I have plenty of sources.[/quote]
Jihad as in?
Which would still not make it a basic tenet by the way. [/quote]
Jihad as in ‘personal struggle’ or something - absolutely.
Also, whether it’s a central tenet is merely semantics. Jihad is as central to Islam as proselytising is to Christianity.[/quote]
Just about as much, yes.
Meaning almost noone does it. [/quote]
Dying in the act of Jihad is the ONLY assurance of paradise in the afterlife in Islam. You could convert a million shirk laden trinitarian Christians to Allah and still wind up in hellfire if Allah decides against you. Dying in Jihad is the one and ONLY guarantee. The 25% or so of Muslims who are Shi’is absolutely believe in earthly violent Jihad, are the most vocal and committed and also have most of the oil.
Their reason for breathing is the theocratic conquest of planet earth in the name of their god. Spend some time in Dearborn which is 7 or 8 minutes from where I am typing this and tell me how many people you find who will condemn the 911 attacks.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Dying in the act of Jihad is the ONLY assurance of paradise in the afterlife in Islam. You could convert a million shirk laden trinitarian Christians to Allah and still wind up in hellfire if Allah decides against you. Dying in Jihad is the one and ONLY guarantee. The 25% or so of Muslims who are Shi’is absolutely believe in earthly violent Jihad, are the most vocal and committed and also have most of the oil.
Their reason for breathing is the theocratic conquest of planet earth in the name of their god. Spend some time in Dearborn which is 7 or 8 minutes from where I am typing this and tell me how many people you find who will condemn the 911 attacks.[/quote]
Spot on!
[quote]groo wrote:
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Yeah, they tried that in the U.S.S.R., China, North Korea, Cuba, etc. They are (or were) all massively oppressed shit holes with wildly murderous governments. I’d say that experiment was an epic failure.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
So is this really a war on Catholicism? [/quote]
Sure, it’s been going on for 2000 years though. Nothing to new to report. Clergy is required to take confession to the grave and accept death rather than tell what was told in confession. They can make what ever laws they want, they can’t tell. There has never been a known case where this confidence has been broken.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]WW3General wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Really though, let’s find all the pedophiles and put them on an island somewhere while we wait for them to finish cloning those dinosaurs. We could make a sport out of it.[/quote]
That would be cool. I think we should save the pedo’s for the ones they molested and when the victims become a certain age they can do what they want with them.[/quote]
No fuck you
you won’t take my dinosaur games away from me
rawr
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Did you finally complete your move to the big island (Austrialia) or did you bag the idea?
Is so, where in Australia? It was great to visit. Land is cheap too…
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Dying in the act of Jihad is the ONLY assurance of paradise in the afterlife in Islam. You could convert a million shirk laden trinitarian Christians to Allah and still wind up in hellfire if Allah decides against you. Dying in Jihad is the one and ONLY guarantee. The 25% or so of Muslims who are Shi’is absolutely believe in earthly violent Jihad, are the most vocal and committed and also have most of the oil.
Their reason for breathing is the theocratic conquest of planet earth in the name of their god. Spend some time in Dearborn which is 7 or 8 minutes from where I am typing this and tell me how many people you find who will condemn the 911 attacks.[/quote]
I’ve been to Dearborn before, strangest place in the world. Like the ME came to America.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Dying in the act of Jihad is the ONLY assurance of paradise in the afterlife in Islam. You could convert a million shirk laden trinitarian Christians to Allah and still wind up in hellfire if Allah decides against you. Dying in Jihad is the one and ONLY guarantee. The 25% or so of Muslims who are Shi’is absolutely believe in earthly violent Jihad, are the most vocal and committed and also have most of the oil.
Their reason for breathing is the theocratic conquest of planet earth in the name of their god. Spend some time in Dearborn which is 7 or 8 minutes from where I am typing this and tell me how many people you find who will condemn the 911 attacks.[/quote]
All who die by the way, whether by land or by sea, or in battle against the pagans, shall have immediate remission of sins. This I grant them through the power of God with which I am invested. O what a disgrace if such a despised and base race, which worships demons, should conquer a people which has the faith of omnipotent God and is made glorious with the name of Christ! With what reproaches will the Lord overwhelm us if you do not aid those who, with us, profess the Christian religion!
Pope Urban II
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:<<< I’ve been to Dearborn before, >>>[/quote]Don’t you dare come up here again and not let me know you’re here Christopher. [quote]Brother Chris wrote:<<< strangest place in the world. >>>[/quote]I have a feeling your dorm room is the strangest place in the world =] One of my operatives sneeked in and got this shot. [quote]Brother Chris wrote:<<< Like the ME came to America.[/quote]It did.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:<<< I’ve been to Dearborn before, >>>[/quote]Don’t you dare come up here again and not let me know you’re here Christopher. [quote]Brother Chris wrote:<<< strangest place in the world. >>>[/quote]I have a feeling your dorm room is the strangest place in the world =] One of my operatives sneeked in and got this shot. [quote]Brother Chris wrote:<<< Like the ME came to America.[/quote]It did.
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And that picture you’ve got there is clearly from Mexico. I’ve been to a couple of those shops in D.F. Mexicans take their Catholicism way more seriously than the typical US Catholic. I guess that tends to happen when you live in such close proximity to hell.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:<<< I’ve been to Dearborn before, >>>[/quote]Don’t you dare come up here again and not let me know you’re here Christopher. [quote]Brother Chris wrote:<<< strangest place in the world. >>>[/quote]I have a feeling your dorm room is the strangest place in the world =] One of my operatives sneeked in and got this shot. [quote]Brother Chris wrote:<<< Like the ME came to America.[/quote]It did.
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And that picture you’ve got there is clearly from Mexico. I’ve been to a couple of those shops in D.F. Mexicans take their Catholicism way more seriously than the typical US Catholic. I guess that tends to happen when you live in such close proximity to hell. [/quote]Christopher is NOT going to school in Mexico.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Dying in the act of Jihad is the ONLY assurance of paradise in the afterlife in Islam. You could convert a million shirk laden trinitarian Christians to Allah and still wind up in hellfire if Allah decides against you. Dying in Jihad is the one and ONLY guarantee.[/quote]
Not even that guarantees nothing if your heart’s not right. There are no guarantees if Allah decides against you - that wouldn’t really make sense. The idea is to be on His good side.
[quote]squating_bear wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Dying in the act of Jihad is the ONLY assurance of paradise in the afterlife in Islam. You could convert a million shirk laden trinitarian Christians to Allah and still wind up in hellfire if Allah decides against you. Dying in Jihad is the one and ONLY guarantee.[/quote]
Not even that guarantees nothing if your heart’s not right. There are no guarantees if Allah decides against you - that wouldn’t really make sense. The idea is to be on His good side.[/quote]That ain’t he way I learned it slippery, but you’d know better than me.