If it’s just the one, you could probably get away with building it back up if the dentist also shaved off a little enamel from the back of the upper tooth where it contacts that corner of the lower one to relieve the pressure on it and prevent further breakage.
To be honest, if you are looking at self defense options you would be better served with a combo of judo and boxing or judo and muay thai. Sambo would be great as well.
I’m curious why you would recommend two sports, boxing and judo, to someone who is interested in self-defense.
Because self-defence isn’t a “style”, it’s a mindset.
You could have someone trained in just boxing who is a “self-defence” monster; they understand how to use their surroundings, can recognize threats before they happen, have good verbal skills, as WELL as being able to punch the daylights out of somebody.
Conversely, there could be someone who’s trained in a stereotypical “self-defence” style, such as Krav Maga (not shitting on Krav, just an example), who knows jack shit about how to use it in any type of real life scenario where danger is present.
What happens when they can’t punch the daylights out of someone because that is a skill which many cannot develop to a high level? Especially against someone bigger and stronger.
So is judo, BJJ, Muay Thai, taekwondo, karate, wrestling, sambo, hell even Silat has competitions. Yet any of this trained under a mindset of “here’s how to use this outside of a controlled environment” will be vastly superior than not.
By this logic, no one should learn any martial art because they all take years to develop to a “high level”.
That isn’t true. You can bring your bjj level up to a respectable and effective level in a short period of time. Boxing on the other hand, is a different story. This is why someone who has trained bjj for a year can beat someone who has trained in a striking art for many years.
I have been in a few fights myself, did not do very well, but I have my confidence and experience. I would say boxing is the number one sport that can give you a solid back ground on the streets.
First of all you would like to stand on your feet and be balanced in a good defence stance. If you get a good coach he will be able to teach you that. Good stance and body, hand, elevation positioning is critical in a street fight. Boxing with a good coach will give you that.
Decent footwork work and body movement. There is no more specific sport in the footwork than boxing as well.
You would like to learn to punch and use your fists in a street fight. You would not like to kick or grapple much. Good jab to the nose, good body cross, some nice left hooks with the palms and body punches to the ribs can be learned in boxing as well.
I ve noticed that low kicks and lead foot roundhouse kicks to the body can be very useful as well as long as stricking goes in a street fight.
Fighting and self-defense are not necessarily the same thing.
You don’t always get a say. I turned EVERY boxing match I got into as a bouncer into a grappling match. The list of reasons for this is long, but centered around my physical and legal safety. There’s no ref to stop the clinch and the clinch is very easy to get to, especially in confined spaces. Get to the clinch, boxing match is over, grappling match begins.
I think people confuse “bar fighting” and fights (often voluntary) that take place in similar circumstances with “self defense”.
I would say that boxing is probably best for someone interested in “winning” any bar fights they get into. These are typically one or two punch affairs involving people with purely social motivation for fighting. Get those first licks in and bar fight glory will likely be yours.
Jiu Jitsu addresses many more problems and trains techniques that have a much higher percentage of success for smaller, weaker people. If you are defending yourself against a predator who wants to take something from you it is much better to be difficult to hold and good at keeping safe until an escape can be made or the threat ended. You may, after all, find yourself in a grappling match before you even realized you were in a fight.
Well you are speaking of the bouncer perspective. You need to guard a place and usually have the number and size advantage.
I am speaking of the perspective of someone that gets attacked or challenged. Such attacks are done when predators have numbers. You have to hit and run in such cases.
As a bouncer you need to stand your ground. It is your place to defend after all.
You are free to have your opinion, but it doesn’t sound like your training priorities have resulted in good outcomes. Of course, you’re also free to give whatever training advice on whatever subject you wish.
I’m speaking from a perspective of four years of good outcomes when being assaulted dozens of times.
Most of my shifts were solo and someone will always have a size advantage in a violent conflict. I trained specifically for strength for many years too. There aren’t many jobs where you get paid to be polite until someone assaults you, but bouncing is one of them.
What sort of professional experience do you have with violence?
Look, boxing is great. Any serious martial artist should know some striking. But boxing is very limited. If you don’t have an answer to getting sucker doubled by a guy who wrestled in high school you can’t say you know how to defend yourself.
Or a headlock. Or a body lock. Or a street choke. Or any other number of common scenarios that do not get trained in the sport of boxing.
There’s a reason you see jiu jitsu/grappling based training in military and law enforcement across the world and not boxing.
One more note on multiple attackers - boxing doesn’t give you special powers against more than one person.
If this is the scenario you want to train for, train to run.
I think both of you are speaking about fighting trained opponents.
The reality I come from the average male does not even lift, not to mention practicing fight sports. I know in USA there is wrestling and most males have wrestled in school. Where I come from it is not like that.
My experiences have been very short fights. I will give you few examples.
A co worker threw some stuff at me. I made him hit the ground with a left hook slap. Note I was 20 kg over him and it was not a KO. Just the hit was strong enough to make him fall down. Afterwards he shouted and what not, but was too scared to act.
A friend of mine during a soccer game. We were in an argument. I did a 1-2. He turned his back in pain and I left him alone. Other friends came to break the fight, but it was not really neccessary.
A bar fight. A guy swing on me from the back, hit me on the chin and I dropped. However there was no pain, just a surprice cheap shot that cought me of guard. I got up and while his friends were shouting at him why did he hit me I dropped a couple of them with 4-5 body punches. Mostly straight rights to the solar plexus. It ended in no one willing to fight really, just the guy that cheap shotted me. But I really got him.
A drunk old man on the streets that bumped on my girl. Had to only low kick him, so he can touch the ground. Afterwards we left quickly.
I never fought someone trained, except in the ring. My strategy is pretty simple, if there is a violent argument, end it quickly with a jab to the nose, left hook or a 1-2 with a heavy cross to the solar plexus. There is no responce afterwards. People just get scared and it becomes obvious you can fight.
Obviously boxing has no response to a lot of scenarios. But it provides swift options for self defence. And let me put this straight. You end up people really quick. You just really learn to punch and make averge Joes drop or give up in pain.
Got it. Kick the old man if he bumps into your girl.
Thanks for sharing your experience and training insight.
I don’t train martial arts to beat people I don’t need martial arts to beat. If you aren’t prepared for the worst case scenario, you aren’t prepared.
Yeah if he is drunk and intentionally bumping into her with a creepy and a sleezy smile.
Regarding my professional experience I have none. I have two amateur fights both are loses. But these were white collar charity events where I fought with more experienced guys. I kind of started training at late 20, early 30s. And the people I fought were with an ami experience during their teen and early 20s.
Good job beating up that old guy. Thanks for sharing your punch early, punch often stories.
You should open up a school. Pass your training on to others.
So you hit a work colleague who you’re 20kg heavier than.
Hit a FRIEND with a 1-2 for an argument whilst playing soccer.
And hit an OLD drunk dude.
What a cunt!!
Don’t forget the time he somehow got punched in the chin from behind and then beat up everyone except the guy who punched him.