College Football

[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Vegita wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Vegita wrote:
TIM TEBOW PASSING STATS

Passing Stats
YEAR TEAM CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT
2006 FLA 22 33 66.7 358 10.8 5 55 1 201.7

TIM TEBOW RUSHING STATS

Rushing Stats
YEAR TEAM ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
2006 FLA 89 469 5.3 29 8 0 0 0

Yea, these are horrible numbers for a rookie QB who isn’t even the starter. His 13 TD’s didn’t ever help his team win, his 800 Combined yards didn’t either. What was I thinking saying he won a national championship, when clearly he rode the bench all year and didn’t account for any of his teams success.

V

I NEVER said he had horrible numbers, or rode the bench. What I did say was he isn’t the greatest ever, and that’s by far. Florida also would’ve won without him. Anybody who watched Florida that year would know that. Florida had 26 MORE touchdowns then their opponents last year, 57 total. 13 is nice but Chris Leaks 25 TD and the teams 19 made him getting 13 a whole lot easier. See how many championships Sam Bradford or any other high profile QB would win if his team could score 44 touchdowns without him.

Oh you mean Bradford as a freshman? Shall I go look up how many touchdowns Bradford had VS his team as a freshman? You want me to go see how many touchdowns Tebow had last season? The season before? Lets see, 2007 29 Passing Touchdowns, 22 rushing, both SEC records, 51 total, more than 87 Div 1 A schools scored as a team. Yea, looks like he needs his team to carry him. Oh yea then there is this.

On November 24, against the Florida State Seminoles, Tebow threw for three touchdowns and rushed for two in a 45-12 rout of the Seminoles. It was later revealed that Tebow fractured his right hand during the third quarter but played the rest of the game. He had to wear a cast for the next three weeks.

And this

While the Gators finished the season in Orlando, Florida with a 41-35 loss to Michigan in the 2008 Capital One Bowl, Tebow maintained his record for both rushing and passing for at least one touchdown in every game played, and he raised the record for total touchdowns accounted for in a single season to 55. He played with a soft cast on the hand he broke in his previous game.

2008

On November 1, 2008 playing against the Georgia Bulldogs, Tim Tebow ran for his 37th rushing touchdown, breaking the school record previously held by former Florida running back Emmitt Smith.

On December 13, 2008, Tebow finished third in the 2008 Heisman Trophy voting with Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford taking the top spot followed by Texas’ Colt McCoy, despite Tebow receiving the most first-place votes. Tebow also won the Maxwell Award in 2008, becoming only the second player to win the award twice.

Actually, All of his records and achievements are too much to list on a forum, here just click this and give it an honest read. Then come back here and tell me that if he has a good year and wins the national championship and the heisman, that you still won’t think he is the college GOAT.

V

Let me make sure I understand you correctly.

The GREATEST EVER came in THIRD for the heisman? 3419

And he has the best numbers?? Check your stats. He had 42 TOTAL touchdowns for 2008
Bradford had 52.

How does the Greatest ever come in third and has numbers that are below several others?
Must you also bench 400 before you can bench 300?[/quote]

Tebow had 55 Touchdowns in 07, he plays in the toughest conference, and he was playing hurt for at least 6 games last year. He is at the top or near the top of every NCAA and SEC record that a QB could be at, AND he is at the top of MANY SEC and NCAA records that running backs achieve. For instance he recently passes Bo Jackson and Emmit Smith on a few records. But you’re right those guys are not good football players or athletes. Oh wait, thats right, Tebow is a QB I forgot. Also if the heisman was awarded after the National title game like it should be, Tebow would have convincingly won it after handing Bradford yet another big game loss, proving he isn’t a leader or a winner. Who gives a shit if he can run up the score and his stats against garbage competition. Come do that shit in the SEC.

V

Virginia Tech ftw

I feel so much older than I did when I was young :slight_smile: Fell asleep in the 3rd quarter of the Boise game. I expected them to beat Oregon. as usual the ESPN cronies say that Boise could not win week in/week out in a BCS conference. Based on consecutive wins v. Oregon, and a win v. OU in a BCS bowl I would say he is wrong. Why don’t they say that about teams from the Big East, or the rest of the PAC 1 + 9? Could Cincy compete in the SEC? How would Oregon do in the Big 12?

Our neighbors to the North, UNT, beat Ball State. UNT was probably the worst team in D1 last year, giving up 40 odd points a game, and they hold a team that won 12 games last year to 10.

Utah TCB v. Utah State, but seriously, when you see the fullback lined up to take the snap in the shotgun do you not know what’s coming?

Want to see Bama v. V. Tech but several friends are SFA grads so driving over to Dallas to see them play SMOO. I love college football.

That Oregon player was just so upset, as well as that Boise State guy taunting him. It just made for a bad situation. I always root for the Pac-10, but Oregon did not look good at all.

LSU Geaux Tigers

awesome. now bradford has a shoulder injury. and no gresham.

come on landry jones. show us your moves.

that BYU/OU game has been interesting, it was close even before Bradford went down, 14-13 BYU 1:34 left, interesting, and OSU beat UGA today 24-10, interesting day, as well as my team got off to a good start, and theirs a fall start on OU as I type this wow 3rd and 14 on the BYU 36 I think

WOW OU missed a 54 yard FG, they only have one timeout left, BYU just has to run the last 1:28 off the clock, wow the mountain west adds to their BCS argument

BYU stuns OU, wow. Hello #3 ranking.

Navy almost beat Ohio State,

BYU actually beat OU.

Sucks to have an O in the beginning of your name this weekend.

[quote]johnconkle wrote:
Navy almost beat Ohio State,

BYU actually beat OU.

Sucks to have an O in the beginning of your name this weekend.[/quote]

true story… except oklahoma state won today against georgia.

but its not a big deal really. nonconference play is like wipin your butt before you shit: you can do it, but whats the point?

with that said, had bradford remained uninjured, we would have done fine. and when we get gresham back too, all will be made good.

boomer sooner baby.

Next week, Ohio State and USC, shit I hate having to wait.

[quote]SpankMeElmo wrote:
johnconkle wrote:
Navy almost beat Ohio State,

BYU actually beat OU.

Sucks to have an O in the beginning of your name this weekend.

true story… except oklahoma state won today against georgia.

but its not a big deal really. nonconference play is like wipin your butt before you shit: you can do it, but whats the point?

with that said, had bradford remained uninjured, we would have done fine. and when we get gresham back too, all will be made good.

boomer sooner baby.[/quote]

I’d like to agree with you completely, and yea he injured at the end of the 2nd quarter, but the game was a struggle even with Bradford in, I don’t know if they were starting to turn the corner at the end of the first half or not I didn’t have the game on when he was injured, but I saw saw a majority of the first half and the end of the fourth.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
BYU stuns OU, wow. Hello #3 ranking.[/quote]

You can’t really expect to win against a ranked team when your Heisman Trophy winner goes down in the first half. Not to mention that the best receiving tight end in the nation, and possibly all-time TD leader for his position by the end of the season, was already hurt.

[quote]Eielson wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
BYU stuns OU, wow. Hello #3 ranking.

You can’t really expect to win against a ranked team when your Heisman Trophy winner goes down in the first half. Not to mention that the best receiving tight end in the nation, and possibly all-time TD leader for his position by the end of the season, was already hurt.[/quote]

Oklahoma is loaded with talent on both sides of the ball as well as their coaching. I think BYU brought their best game to OU, and with the injury it seems to be enough to win

It’s all about the big O, Oregon’s going to do well this year except for the fool that punched that guy out.

[quote]Eielson wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
BYU stuns OU, wow. Hello #3 ranking.

You can’t really expect to win against a ranked team when your Heisman Trophy winner goes down in the first half. Not to mention that the best receiving tight end in the nation, and possibly all-time TD leader for his position by the end of the season, was already hurt.[/quote]

OU’s O-line is the problem…it will continue to be their problem. Oh and the defense didn’t look too great…but it’s early. Plenty of time before Oct.17th :wink:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Eielson wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
BYU stuns OU, wow. Hello #3 ranking.

You can’t really expect to win against a ranked team when your Heisman Trophy winner goes down in the first half. Not to mention that the best receiving tight end in the nation, and possibly all-time TD leader for his position by the end of the season, was already hurt.

OU’s O-line is the problem…it will continue to be their problem. Oh and the defense didn’t look too great…but it’s early. Plenty of time before Oct.17th ;-)[/quote]

Our line, that was supposedly so great last year, looked just like this last year against TCU. Outside of all the false starts that is. We couldn’t run the ball. The real difference is that our passing game wasn’t as good. Of course, Bradford and Gresham being out can have that effect.

I’m not sure what you were watching to say that OU’s defense didn’t look too great. As long as Reynolds doesn’t get hurt again, this defense looks like it might be one of the finest in the Stoops era.

Pull the plug on this OU team, they’re finished. That ballyhooed defense sucked just as bad as last year’s unit. There are no adjectives to describe how horrid the OL was. The 4th Qtr delay of game on 4th and goal is 100% on the coaching staff; no excuses Stoops. That’s on your head, and it probably cost OU the game.

The National Title is obviously gone. I can’t imagine this team making the necessary improvement fast enough to put up a legit run at the Big XII title. Forget about Texas, there are 5 other teams on the schedule that would’ve drilled OU the way they played tonight.

This was a team that had all the pieces to have a special season, and they looked like a 7-5 football team. No injury excuses either. No TE is going to make THAT much difference, and we were pitiful even before Bradford went down. What the hell were you guys doing all August? Playing tag?

Given how far away this team is right now, I think the best-case scenario is about 9 wins and the Cotton Bowl. And that’s fucking horrible given the individual talent on this team.

Stoops, you’ve fucked this one up good.

BYU’s star running back was also out – all game. Harvey Unga losing him changed BYU’s approach.
BYU’s defense was giving Sam Bradford trouble when he was in. Bradford only threw for 96 yards in the first half while OU’s running backs (arguably the best in the country) couldn’t muster more than 120 yards all game. BYU’s offense still beat OU’s D.

In the end, the OU defense was fully intact, yet the batch of All-American candidates couldn’t stop the BYU passing attack when it mattered late in the fourth quarter. Yes, their heisman trophy winning QB was injured…but who let the QB get roughed up?

Who failed in that regard? OU’s OL. By the time 2nd quarter was running down, no one was jeering that “byu is gonna get run out of town”. It was a close game, and if your whole team depends on one player, something is wrong.