[quote]MaximusB wrote:
If Boise State played any one of the top 5 teams, they would get their ass handed to them. They play well against lower competition, but if they step up to the big boys, they will fold. [/quote]
And yeah, they beat Oklahoma in a BCS game, but that was two years ago - different year, entirely different team, and well, people will expect those three trick plays to win in overtime this time.
All of the top 5 teams are flirting with losing right now, I think since Texas barely got passed Oklahoma, they are playing the most consistent I think.
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
If Boise State played any one of the top 5 teams, they would get their ass handed to them. They play well against lower competition, but if they step up to the big boys, they will fold.
And yeah, they beat Oklahoma in a BCS game, but that was two years ago - different year, entirely different team, and well, people will expect those three trick plays to win in overtime this time.[/quote]
Most people remember those trick plays but no one remembers the 14-0 end of the 1st Quarter lead or the fact that BSU should have lost that game (QB threw a pass that y’all returned for a TD to make it 35-28 the drive before the Hook and lateral play). Yes, a completely different team and different opponent (you could argue y’all were better that year because of AP still being on the team).
If Boise State was in the Pac-10 they’d have no problem getting respect, hell honestly if they were in the Mountain West NO one could deny making that a BCS conference (granted I think they should be now but if this was the case no one could argue against it).
I know Spike doesn’t want to hear it until they are 12-0 but I hope TCU wins the rest of their games by a large margin and gets into the BCS title game, that’d be the biggest fuck you to SECSPN and the bullshit system we have right now, especially since ESPN will probably meltdown if an SEC team doesn’t play in the BCS title game (if Florida and Bama keep playing that shitty every week their gonna lose a game before the conference title game, LSU will be a factor again if the beat Bama but outside of those 3 teams the rest of the conference is average, seems like every conference has 3 “dominant” teams and the rest as average this year…)
[quote]Rocker3829 wrote:
I know Spike doesn’t want to hear it until they are 12-0 but I hope TCU wins the rest of their games by a large margin and gets into the BCS title game, that’d be the biggest fuck you to SECSPN and the bullshit system we have right now, especially since ESPN will probably meltdown if an SEC team doesn’t play in the BCS title game (if Florida and Bama keep playing that shitty every week their gonna lose a game before the conference title game, LSU will be a factor again if the beat Bama but outside of those 3 teams the rest of the conference is average, seems like every conference has 3 “dominant” teams and the rest as average this year…)[/quote]
I just want to beat UNLV and go from there. Trying not to count any chickens before they hatch. A few of the older players remember SMU in 2005. Dang that seems like last week to me.
If Bama had a qb they’d be dangerous.
Thought you guys, especially Geebus, might get a kick out of this, Hitler calls on BYU.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
If Boise State played any one of the top 5 teams, they would get their ass handed to them. They play well against lower competition, but if they step up to the big boys, they will fold.
If BSU wants the respect then leave the WAC and/or quit scheduling the 1AA teams to fill in the non-conference games.[/quote]
Boise wants into the MWC. Our conference even has a tie in with that awful bowl game of theirs. Boise in December as a way to cap the season, no way. How many top 20 programs are willing to schedule a home and home, or even a 2 for 1 with Boise?
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
If Boise State played any one of the top 5 teams, they would get their ass handed to them. They play well against lower competition, but if they step up to the big boys, they will fold. [/quote]
Why so much Boise hate? They are not keeping USC from playing for the national championship, Washington is. Just like Oregon State, and Stanford. If USC had handled their business the last few years they’d have played in at least 1 more MNC game.
[quote]Spike9726 wrote:
Rocker3829 wrote:
I know Spike doesn’t want to hear it until they are 12-0 but I hope TCU wins the rest of their games by a large margin and gets into the BCS title game, that’d be the biggest fuck you to SECSPN and the bullshit system we have right now, especially since ESPN will probably meltdown if an SEC team doesn’t play in the BCS title game (if Florida and Bama keep playing that shitty every week their gonna lose a game before the conference title game, LSU will be a factor again if the beat Bama but outside of those 3 teams the rest of the conference is average, seems like every conference has 3 “dominant” teams and the rest as average this year…)
I just want to beat UNLV and go from there. Trying not to count any chickens before they hatch. A few of the older players remember SMU in 2005. Dang that seems like last week to me.
If Bama had a qb they’d be dangerous.
Thought you guys, especially Geebus, might get a kick out of this, Hitler calls on BYU.
That video was funny. My dad is a BYU fan, and he is always complaining about Bronco Mendenhall acting like his job is a calling to perform God’s work instead of coaching football.
In all honesty regarding Boise State, I’m much more worried about them next year, why? They only have 4 seniors on their entire football team this year with most of their starters except Wilson on defense being sophomores and juniors. Boise will actually have a better non-con schedule than a lot of the SEC next year say for a couple of teams (they play Toledo and Oregon State at home while they go to Wyoming and Virginia Tech). Regardless of where they end up this year, next year is DEFINITELY gonna be when to watch out for them.
Sam Bradford had a press conference yesterday and announced that his career at OU is over and he will have season ending surgery and enter the draft next year. No one around here is was surprised. It’s the best choice for him at this point.
He did, however, say that he was not going to hire an agent yet so he can travel with the team for the rest of the season. It was also cool that during his press conference, players from both the offense and the defense were there for support.
Oklahoma State plays Texas this weekend. Halloween night, Boone Pickens stadium is going to be a zoo. Hopefully, the game lives up to the hype.
[quote]Spike9726 wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
If Boise State played any one of the top 5 teams, they would get their ass handed to them. They play well against lower competition, but if they step up to the big boys, they will fold.
Why so much Boise hate? They are not keeping USC from playing for the national championship, Washington is. Just like Oregon State, and Stanford. If USC had handled their business the last few years they’d have played in at least 1 more MNC game. [/quote]
My beef with Boise State is that they were ranked higher than USC, and I don’t feel that they deserved to be. We are talking about Division 1-A, the highest division there is. There is no way in hell, that I will believe that Boise State should have been ranked as high as they were compared to other teams in all of college football. No way in hell. Like I said before, let them play a big boy contender, and watch them get dismantled. Can you imagine someone like Bama, Texas, USC, or Florida playing them?
Yes USC should have handled their own at Washington, but I would still put a 1 loss or even 2 loss team ahead of Boise State. If Boise State really wants national credibility, then need to schedule a big team in their non-conference games. Play Florida, Michigan, Ohio State, Bama, someone big like that, then you might see some believers.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Spike9726 wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
If Boise State played any one of the top 5 teams, they would get their ass handed to them. They play well against lower competition, but if they step up to the big boys, they will fold.
Why so much Boise hate? They are not keeping USC from playing for the national championship, Washington is. Just like Oregon State, and Stanford. If USC had handled their business the last few years they’d have played in at least 1 more MNC game.
My beef with Boise State is that they were ranked higher than USC, and I don’t feel that they deserved to be. We are talking about Division 1-A, the highest division there is. There is no way in hell, that I will believe that Boise State should have been ranked as high as they were compared to other teams in all of college football. No way in hell. Like I said before, let them play a big boy contender, and watch them get dismantled. Can you imagine someone like Bama, Texas, USC, or Florida playing them?
Yes USC should have handled their own at Washington, but I would still put a 1 loss or even 2 loss team ahead of Boise State. If Boise State really wants national credibility, then need to schedule a big team in their non-conference games. Play Florida, Michigan, Ohio State, Bama, someone big like that, then you might see some believers. [/quote]
You can think OU for the current Boise State suck-fest.
What is odd is that since that game with OU, Boise State has yet to win a Bowl game yet they are still given the benefit of the doubt. All because of a game that occurred over two years ago.
[quote]Dustin wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
Spike9726 wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
If Boise State played any one of the top 5 teams, they would get their ass handed to them. They play well against lower competition, but if they step up to the big boys, they will fold.
Why so much Boise hate? They are not keeping USC from playing for the national championship, Washington is. Just like Oregon State, and Stanford. If USC had handled their business the last few years they’d have played in at least 1 more MNC game.
My beef with Boise State is that they were ranked higher than USC, and I don’t feel that they deserved to be. We are talking about Division 1-A, the highest division there is. There is no way in hell, that I will believe that Boise State should have been ranked as high as they were compared to other teams in all of college football. No way in hell. Like I said before, let them play a big boy contender, and watch them get dismantled. Can you imagine someone like Bama, Texas, USC, or Florida playing them?
Yes USC should have handled their own at Washington, but I would still put a 1 loss or even 2 loss team ahead of Boise State. If Boise State really wants national credibility, then need to schedule a big team in their non-conference games. Play Florida, Michigan, Ohio State, Bama, someone big like that, then you might see some believers.
You can think OU for the current Boise State suck-fest.
What is odd is that since that game with OU, Boise State has yet to win a Bowl game yet they are still given the benefit of the doubt. All because of a game that occurred over two years ago.[/quote]
That’s exactly my point, one game over 2 yrs ago is nothing compared to teams winning championships back to back, or finishing in the top 5 year after year after year. You have teams that have proven their value for years or even decades, and Boise State has one good year? No way Jose.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
My beef with Boise State is that they were ranked higher than USC, and I don’t feel that they deserved to be. We are talking about Division 1-A, the highest division there is. There is no way in hell, that I will believe that Boise State should have been ranked as high as they were compared to other teams in all of college football. No way in hell. Like I said before, let them play a big boy contender, and watch them get dismantled. Can you imagine someone like Bama, Texas, USC, or Florida playing them?
Yes USC should have handled their own at Washington, but I would still put a 1 loss or even 2 loss team ahead of Boise State. If Boise State really wants national credibility, then need to schedule a big team in their non-conference games. Play Florida, Michigan, Ohio State, Bama, someone big like that, then you might see some believers. [/quote]
Michigan and Ohio State are also severely over rated, Boise could beat them. I have plenty of Bama love but until they get a QB they aren’t going to score enough to guarantee a win over anybody. I’m not sure what to make of UT but they keep winning. Florida probably kills them, but Florida killed everyone last year and noone looked down on other SEC schools for it.
You make it sound like this is plastation and you can line up anyone you want in OOC. How many of the teams you named would give Boise a home game, even a 2 for 1?
TCU has been trying to line up quality opponents for years. It’s not so easy, and we are much more centrally located and have way better weather than Boise. When the Frogs do something like go into OUs house and beat them or expose Leach’s gimmick offense for the fraud that it is it does make good teams want to play us. This is why I am now an ACC fan. I wish nothing but doom and destruction on most of the big 12, except OU.
[quote]Spike9726 wrote:
You make it sound like this is plastation and you can line up anyone you want in OOC. How many of the teams you named would give Boise a home game, even a 2 for 1?
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For what it’s worth, Cincinnati managed to schedule a home and home with OU. And Cincy only recently has become relevant on the College football stage.
Tulsa worked out a deal with Notre Dame to play in South Bend next year.
Texas played at Wyoming this season.
Boise State could do the same, even if that means playing the big boys on the road.
edit I can’t spell football.
I would take them, I would give them home field advantage too. I know some teams like to schedule soft teams in their off-season, but not me. Which is why I am glad USC’s schedule is so tough. As of right now, by the time the season is over, we will have played 5 teams ranked in the top 25, with 3 in the top 10. We played Ohio State at Columbus, Notre Dame at South Bend, Oregon at Eugene, which are all tough places to not just play, but to win at.
[quote]Dustin wrote:
Spike9726 wrote:
You make it sound like this is plastation and you can line up anyone you want in OOC. How many of the teams you named would give Boise a home game, even a 2 for 1?
For what it’s worth, Cincinnati managed to schedule a home and home with OU. And Cincy only recently has become relevant on the College football stage.
Tulsa worked out a deal with Notre Dame to play in South Bend next year.
Texas played at Wyoming this season.
Boise State could do the same, even if that means playing the big boys on the road.
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OU will play anyone, and they like some quality competition. They deserved a shot at Florida over UT because OU played Cinci and TCU while UT played 4 cream puffs. Besides, OU gives a home and away in baseball every year. Soggy Burrito will not even make a return trip up I35. Sorry, wrong sport rant. This is why I pull for OU, well that and my cousin is there.
I’d like to know when Mack scheduled the Wyoming game, I doubt it was after Wyoming beat UCLA in the bowl. Mack once backed out of a Hawaii game (after June Jones turned them around) citing “travel costs.” Wyoming hasn’t been that good for several years.
Is the Tulsa ND game a one and done? There was some chatter on our message board about that game. The argument against that was that it would give us 7 road games and 5 home (I was not in that camp.
Boise does have a pretty good OOC schedule next year.
[quote]Spike9726 wrote:
Dustin wrote:
I’d like to know when Mack scheduled the Wyoming game, I doubt it was after Wyoming beat UCLA in the bowl. Mack once backed out of a Hawaii game (after June Jones turned them around) citing “travel costs.” Wyoming hasn’t been that good for several years.
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I’m pretty sure Texas scheduling Wyoming was a LATE agreement. Texas was originally in contract to play Arkansas this year, but the Razorbacks backed out of the contract. Someone correct me if i’m wrong.
[quote]Spike9726 wrote:
Dustin wrote:
Spike9726 wrote:
You make it sound like this is plastation and you can line up anyone you want in OOC. How many of the teams you named would give Boise a home game, even a 2 for 1?
For what it’s worth, Cincinnati managed to schedule a home and home with OU. And Cincy only recently has become relevant on the College football stage.
Tulsa worked out a deal with Notre Dame to play in South Bend next year.
Texas played at Wyoming this season.
Boise State could do the same, even if that means playing the big boys on the road.
edit I can’t spell football.
OU will play anyone, and they like some quality competition. They deserved a shot at Florida over UT because OU played Cinci and TCU while UT played 4 cream puffs. Besides, OU gives a home and away in baseball every year. Soggy Burrito will not even make a return trip up I35. Sorry, wrong sport rant. This is why I pull for OU, well that and my cousin is there.
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There has actually been some backlash regarding OU playing a strong OOC. There are a couple of sports radio personalities that, to there credit, questioned it before the season started. They said that if OU had a played a weaker non-conference schedule that Bradford wouldn’t be gone for the season and OU has maybe one loss. As a football fan, I actually like to see OU play Miami or a Cincinnati (OU plays Cincy on the road next year and Cincy is returning a lot of players). But I do see the argument that if you play a more manageable schedule, OU is ranked in the Top 10 right now. As it stands now, OU has three losses and still has to play Nebraska on the road, Texas Tech on the road, and Oklahoma State in Norman.
That has been an issue with Mack Brown since he has been at Texas, even amongst Longhorn fans. He always seems to schedule week non-conference games and as you pointed out, is why Texas didn’t play Florida. This year could be different for Texas as OSU is the last major hurdle in their schedule.
To my knowledge it is a one and done. And I really can’t see big bad Notre Dame agreeing to travel to Tulsa to play.
[quote]Anthony50 wrote:
Spike9726 wrote:
Dustin wrote:
I’d like to know when Mack scheduled the Wyoming game, I doubt it was after Wyoming beat UCLA in the bowl. Mack once backed out of a Hawaii game (after June Jones turned them around) citing “travel costs.” Wyoming hasn’t been that good for several years.
I’m pretty sure Texas scheduling Wyoming was a LATE agreement. Texas was originally in contract to play Arkansas this year, but the Razorbacks backed out of the contract. Someone correct me if i’m wrong.
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Wasn’t Texas and Arkansas originally scheduled to play at Jerrah World this season?
You are right that Arkansas backed out of it, but I want to say they were going to play on a neutral field.