lol maybe, wow any other team and I’d have said bullshit, but those criminals down there in Columbia deserve it.
lol, of course this shouldn’t have happened, but I can’t help but laugh
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
Longest post in human history
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That was pretty good. I like the gangster representation of Oklahoma State. It’d be neat to see comparable situations like this one with other conferences, namely the SEC and Big 10.
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
Big XII Group Therapy Session
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OUTSTANDING, PMPM!! That is one of the funniest things I’ve read in a long time. Thanks for sharing!
[quote]WxHerk wrote:
pushmepullme wrote:
Big XII Group Therapy Session
OUTSTANDING, PMPM!! That is one of the funniest things I’ve read in a long time. Thanks for sharing!
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what he said
TCU 32 BYU 7.
We beat them so bad they probably thought it was baseball season.
I’ve been wanting to post this for a week but have had troubles w/ AT & T.
What an aweome game. It was nearly sold out. A lot of folks were wearing pink to promote breast cancer awareness. The weather was gorgeous.
We pretty much went for the jugular from the opening whistle and never let up. Went deep the first 2 plays from scrimmage, getting a PI penalty on the 1st and a TD on the second. Was the first time they truly unveiled the Wild Frog formation. Jeremy Kerley is only a soph, as is Jimmy Young and Andy Dalton.
We blitzed from a number of angles and got pressure from the front 4. Jerry Hughes had 3 sacks by halftime. I just got back from dinner where a local restaurent gives away free shakes if they get 5 sacks. I don’t think the BYU QB has seen pressure all year. He’s probably used to having all day behind those 350 pound 24 year old lineman.
Their clock management was not that good as they tried to do the 2 minute drill before half. I was surprised. They also chewed up a lot of time on their one 3rd quarter scoring drive.
I got stuck in a long concession line at the half and missed the breast cancer ceremony, probably a good thing. I did get back just in time to see the pink balloons go up in the air. I lost it in front of a house full last year. I know mom looked down from Heaven and enjoyed this one.
Like a lot of frog fans lately we have to read the program to figure out what conference we are in or who we are playing but she got a bit fired up whenever we played BYU.
I think we need a lot more than 8 or even 16 teams in a playoff. Let everyone have some chance. A playoff would cause a lot of the conference affiliations to shift. Heck, cut the season down to like 10 games.
Play your 8 or so conference games, 1 game for a local non-conference rivalry (Our powers that be insist on maintaing the rivalry w/ SMU) and a game for a top ranked OOC game (We’ve played OU, UT, and Tech the last few years). Cut out all of these silly body bag games against 1AA, MAC, and Sunbelt (see exception for local rivalry) games and have more meaningful games between quality opponants.
Heck start the playoffs around Thanksgiving. It’s the Villanova’s in basketball, and the Fresno’s in baseball that make the post season fun, yet in football we have this revenue sharing cartel that insures that the big state schools and Notre Dame get all the money.
If TCU does finish 11-1 I’m curious to see if the Hawaii effect would have them ranked higher than some of the other non-BCS teams who are undefeated but have much sofer schedules.
[quote]Spike9726 wrote:
TCU 32 BYU 7.
We beat them so bad they probably thought it was baseball season.
I’ve been wanting to post this for a week but have had troubles w/ AT & T.
What an aweome game. It was nearly sold out. A lot of folks were wearing pink to promote breast cancer awareness. The weather was gorgeous.
We pretty much went for the jugular from the opening whistle and never let up. Went deep the first 2 plays from scrimmage, getting a PI penalty on the 1st and a TD on the second. Was the first time they truly unveiled the Wild Frog formation. Jeremy Kerley is only a soph, as is Jimmy Young and Andy Dalton.
We blitzed from a number of angles and got pressure from the front 4. Jerry Hughes had 3 sacks by halftime. I just got back from dinner where a local restaurent gives away free shakes if they get 5 sacks. I don’t think the BYU QB has seen pressure all year. He’s probably used to having all day behind those 350 pound 24 year old lineman. Their clock management was not that good as they tried to do the 2 minute drill before half. I was surprised. They also chewed up a lot of time on their one 3rd quarter scoring drive.
I got stuck in a long concession line at the half and missed the breast cancer ceremony, probably a good thing. I did get back just in time to see the pink balloons go up in the air. I lost it in front of a house full last year. I know mom looked down from Heaven and enjoyed this one. Like a lot of frog fans lately we have to read the program to figure out what conference we are in or who we are playing but she got a bit fired up whenever we played BYU.[/quote]
I didn’t see the game because I don’t have Versus, but I saw highlights. TCU made BYU look really silly. Their defense is fast. It makes me nervous for Utah’s inconsistent offense when they play in a couple of weeks.
[quote]Geebus wrote:
Spike9726 wrote:
TCU 32 BYU 7.
We beat them so bad they probably thought it was baseball season.
I’ve been wanting to post this for a week but have had troubles w/ AT & T.
What an aweome game. It was nearly sold out. A lot of folks were wearing pink to promote breast cancer awareness. The weather was gorgeous.
We pretty much went for the jugular from the opening whistle and never let up. Went deep the first 2 plays from scrimmage, getting a PI penalty on the 1st and a TD on the second. Was the first time they truly unveiled the Wild Frog formation. Jeremy Kerley is only a soph, as is Jimmy Young and Andy Dalton.
We blitzed from a number of angles and got pressure from the front 4. Jerry Hughes had 3 sacks by halftime. I just got back from dinner where a local restaurent gives away free shakes if they get 5 sacks. I don’t think the BYU QB has seen pressure all year. He’s probably used to having all day behind those 350 pound 24 year old lineman. Their clock management was not that good as they tried to do the 2 minute drill before half. I was surprised. They also chewed up a lot of time on their one 3rd quarter scoring drive.
I got stuck in a long concession line at the half and missed the breast cancer ceremony, probably a good thing. I did get back just in time to see the pink balloons go up in the air. I lost it in front of a house full last year. I know mom looked down from Heaven and enjoyed this one. Like a lot of frog fans lately we have to read the program to figure out what conference we are in or who we are playing but she got a bit fired up whenever we played BYU.
I didn’t see the game because I don’t have Versus, but I saw highlights. TCU made BYU look really silly. Their defense is fast. It makes me nervous for Utah’s inconsistent offense when they play in a couple of weeks.[/quote]
Our D has always been fast. Patterson’s philosophy is that anyone with any speed goes to the defensive side of the ball. Much of the D, even one of the DTs, played RB or QB in High School.
Barring some type of flukey special teams play, I think the game will be decided between the TCU O and the Utah D. The OC has flashes of brilliance (like Thursday) but a lot of really bad ideas and schemes and usually completely overlooks the TE. Our QB Dalton has been improving by leaps and bounds and after his knee injury they decided to actually let him throw instead of using him as the featured runner.
This is the same kid that threw 4 picks against you guys last year in FW. He’s come a long way. We have plenty of weapons, but don’t always find ways to incorporate them. For example, if you’ve seen the highlights Bryant is 6’4" and caught a nice fade in the corner of the end zone. He’s a senior and that’s the first time in 4 years we’ve thrown that. Watch out for the Wild Frog formation.
Utah is tough at home and it’s on a Thursday, that’s just a few days after we travel to UNLV. The Sat before BYU was a trap at CSU and it was just an abysmal performance. UNLV has shown some signs of life this year, that could be a trap as well. In the mean time we should take care of Wyoming, whatever happened to them?
Good luck until we meet in November.
Just curious. What would your ideal bowl destination be?
You guys will destroy Wyoming. They are absolutely terrible.
This is going to sound really optimistic; but if we can run the table and stay ranked high in the BCS poll, I wouldn’t care what BCS game we play in. A Rose Bowl or Fiesta Bowl berth would probably be the best because of the short travel distance from Utah.
As far as bowl games the MWC has agreements with, I am not sure. I think they all present their advantages and disadvantages, except for the New Mexico Bowl. I would hate to get a bowl berth to that game.
The Las Vegas Bowl’s advantages are playing a Pac-10 opponent and the short travel distance so many fans will go. The downside is it is so early that it seems like a meaningless bowl.
The Poinsettia Bowl’s advantage is the possibility of playing a Pac-10 opponent (this would be at the rock bottom since the Pac-10 #7 would have to be bowl eligible). The disadvantages are the possibility of not playing a Pac-10 opponent and the bowl being too early in the bowl season.
The Armed Forces Bowl’s advantage is that it is later in the bowl season (December 31). The disadvantage is playing a Conference USA opponent.
I guess if I had to choose, I might go with the Las Vegas Bowl (which is what we are headed to if we can finish #1). I don’t know how big of a factor bowl location is on recruiting. If it does matter, the Armed Forces Bowl becomes pretty enticing because Utah has built a small pipeline of recruits from Texas.
Lots of good ideas in this thread. Frankly, I think that a 16-team playoff is both unlikely and unnecessary. Eight teams is more than enough to avoid the unsatisfying feelings off the current system and is very practical. I like the idea of moving the season up a week and playing the games in November.
I think the BCS ranking system is not unacceptably flawed and could be used to generate the 8 teams for a playoff bracket.
Frankly, I think that either every conference should have a championship game or none should. It is way too much of a disadvantage for the SEC and Big 12 to play those games while the Pac 10 and Big 10 just hang out.
In other news, I am pretty satisfied with the BCS rankings. I still feel like Alabama is a bit overrated and sort of there by default, but what do I know. IMO, Texas is #1 and Penn St. is #2.
I am not as impressed with Okie St. and sort of feel like they were merely the first to expose and overrated Mizzou team. Had Texas knocked them off first in dramatic fashion, Okie St.'s win looks much less impresive. In my view, Texas and Okie St. are worlds apart in terms of quality.
I think Florida and USC are clearly the best one-loss teams. Florida plays a tougher schedule, but USC is flat out fucking teams up (shitty teams, but still). Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling that Oregon St. is going to run the table and that USC will lose the Pac-10 championship as a result.
I hope that Alabama trips up before meeting Florida in the SEC championship game. IMO, the NC should be between Texas, Penn St., USC, or Florida. I actually like Texas a lot since I think Mack Brown is alright. On the other hand, I think it would be sweet for Joe Pa to play in and win one last NC and then retire. A guy like him deserves to go out on top and leave a storybook legend behind.
Penn. St. vs. Texas would be a great NC game. If that happens and Oregon St. holds on to win the Pac 10, that would force the Rose Bowl to match them up with Ohio St. That would theoretically leave a one-loss USC team to match up with Alabama/Georgia/Florida in the Sugar Bowl. Maybe Okie St. or OU in the Fiesta with someone. That would make for some pretty interesting bowl match-ups.
The reason I want more than 8 teams is partly because I hate the exclusion of the non-BCS schools. The other reason, what about the teams that are say 3rd or 4th in the SEC? Most years I think the Big 12 is overrated but not so much this year. Someone like a Tech or Okie State could get hot at the right time. Georgia or LSU would like a shot at redemption.
Cut out these conference championship games, extra games at Hawaii, and all the body bag games and let’s have a serious playoff.
Bama is my #2 favorite team, lot’s of family ties. I’m not sure how good they are yet, the Clemson win is looking less impressive each week, but fortunately they control their own destiny. These last few weeks of the year we’ll see how good they are.
[quote]Geebus wrote:
You guys will destroy Wyoming. They are absolutely terrible.
This is going to sound really optimistic; but if we can run the table and stay ranked high in the BCS poll, I wouldn’t care what BCS game we play in. A Rose Bowl or Fiesta Bowl berth would probably be the best because of the short travel distance from Utah.
As far as bowl games the MWC has agreements with, I am not sure. I think they all present their advantages and disadvantages, except for the New Mexico Bowl. I would hate to get a bowl berth to that game.
The Las Vegas Bowl’s advantages are playing a Pac-10 opponent and the short travel distance so many fans will go. The downside is it is so early that it seems like a meaningless bowl.
The Poinsettia Bowl’s advantage is the possibility of playing a Pac-10 opponent (this would be at the rock bottom since the Pac-10 #7 would have to be bowl eligible). The disadvantages are the possibility of not playing a Pac-10 opponent and the bowl being too early in the bowl season.
The Armed Forces Bowl’s advantage is that it is later in the bowl season (December 31). The disadvantage is playing a Conference USA opponent.
I guess if I had to choose, I might go with the Las Vegas Bowl (which is what we are headed to if we can finish #1). I don’t know how big of a factor bowl location is on recruiting. If it does matter, the Armed Forces Bowl becomes pretty enticing because Utah has built a small pipeline of recruits from Texas.
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Agreed on the bowls. If TCU could get into a BCS my first choice would be the Sugar, because of location and proxity. I wonder how they decide which non-BCS schools go to what bowls. I wonder if we’d see more than 1 non-bcs team.
The MWC bowl tie ins suck. I’ve never been to Vegas so that would be nice, but pre-Christmas against a Pac 10 school that’s barely bowl eligible hardly seems inviting. Agreed on the New Mexico bowl. I’m biased here but I think you’d enjoy a few days in Ft Worth. Plenty to do and a lot of great places to eat. San Diego would be a nice destination but not much of an opponant. It’s too early in the year. We seem to back door our way into the Houston bowl about every other year which is ok by me but I think it’s getting old.
Geebus are you a baseball fan?
[quote]Spike9726 wrote:
Geebus wrote:
You guys will destroy Wyoming. They are absolutely terrible.
This is going to sound really optimistic; but if we can run the table and stay ranked high in the BCS poll, I wouldn’t care what BCS game we play in. A Rose Bowl or Fiesta Bowl berth would probably be the best because of the short travel distance from Utah.
As far as bowl games the MWC has agreements with, I am not sure. I think they all present their advantages and disadvantages, except for the New Mexico Bowl. I would hate to get a bowl berth to that game.
The Las Vegas Bowl’s advantages are playing a Pac-10 opponent and the short travel distance so many fans will go. The downside is it is so early that it seems like a meaningless bowl.
The Poinsettia Bowl’s advantage is the possibility of playing a Pac-10 opponent (this would be at the rock bottom since the Pac-10 #7 would have to be bowl eligible). The disadvantages are the possibility of not playing a Pac-10 opponent and the bowl being too early in the bowl season.
The Armed Forces Bowl’s advantage is that it is later in the bowl season (December 31). The disadvantage is playing a Conference USA opponent.
I guess if I had to choose, I might go with the Las Vegas Bowl (which is what we are headed to if we can finish #1). I don’t know how big of a factor bowl location is on recruiting. If it does matter, the Armed Forces Bowl becomes pretty enticing because Utah has built a small pipeline of recruits from Texas.
Agreed on the bowls. If TCU could get into a BCS my first choice would be the Sugar, because of location and proxity. I wonder how they decide which non-BCS schools go to what bowls. I wonder if we’d see more than 1 non-bcs team.
The MWC bowl tie ins suck. I’ve never been to Vegas so that would be nice, but pre-Christmas against a Pac 10 school that’s barely bowl eligible hardly seems inviting. Agreed on the New Mexico bowl. I’m biased here but I think you’d enjoy a few days in Ft Worth. Plenty to do and a lot of great places to eat. San Diego would be a nice destination but not much of an opponant. It’s too early in the year. We seem to back door our way into the Houston bowl about every other year which is ok by me but I think it’s getting old.
Geebus are you a baseball fan?[/quote]
I have never traveled to a bowl game before so I was mostly basing my bowl choices on what I would want if I was the athletic director or football coach.
I love baseball. It is my favorite sport.
[quote]Spike9726 wrote:
The reason I want more than 8 teams is partly because I hate the exclusion of the non-BCS schools. The other reason, what about the teams that are say 3rd or 4th in the SEC? Most years I think the Big 12 is overrated but not so much this year. Someone like a Tech or Okie State could get hot at the right time. Georgia or LSU would like a shot at redemption.
Cut out these conference championship games, extra games at Hawaii, and all the body bag games and let’s have a serious playoff.
Bama is my #2 favorite team, lot’s of family ties. I’m not sure how good they are yet, the Clemson win is looking less impressive each week, but fortunately they control their own destiny. These last few weeks of the year we’ll see how good they are. [/quote]
Don’t get me wrong, I would love 16 teams, but I think 8 is far more likely to happen. I should add that in my 8-team scenario there would be no automatic bids to conference champs. Everyone plays in based on polling.
This should allow that season’s “power conference(s)” to get 2 or 3 teams in, and perhaps allow a non-BCS conference to squirt a team in there, too. But for this to work, the NCAA would have to take a tighter rein on scheduling. Games against I-AA schools would be prohibited; only I-A matchups. I like the idea of having two random inter-conference matchup weeks between BCS conferences. There would be an open date to schedule a game against another conference that is not from a BCS conference. The other 9 games (in a 12-game season) would be conference games.
For example, a season for a Big 12 team might look like this:
Week 1: Matchup with a Conference USA team
Week 2: Matchup with an SEC team at random (the other Big 12 teams would also matchup with an SEC team at random this week)
Week 3: Matchup with a Big 10 team at random (the other Big 12 teams would also matchup with a Big 10 team at random)
Weeks 4-13: Conference games or bye week
That same season for an SEC team might look like this:
Week 1: Matchup with a Mountain West team
Week 2: Matchup with a Big 12 team at random (the other SEC teams would also matchup with a Big 12 team at random)
Week 3: Matchup with a Pac 10 team at random (the other SEC teams would also matchup with a Pac 10 team at random)
Weeks 4-13: Conference games or bye week
This would obviously require all the BCS conferences to have the same number of teams. This would give us a much better picture of a conference’s strength than the current system. If the SEC did very well as a conference against the Big 12 and the Pac 10 in the above example, then we’d know that a team (or teams) at the top of the SEC is/are the real deal. Conversely, if the SEC floundered in its inter-conference games, then the top dog in the SEC that year may not be as special. All of this is designed to make the polls more accurate.
The downside is that the above would require some shuffling around of conferences and would be a little bit of a burden to administrate. It would also interfere with traditional rivalry games between non-conference opponents (e.g., Florida and Florida State and/or Miami; see also Iowa and Iowa St., or USC and Notre Dame).
[quote]Geebus wrote:
I have never traveled to a bowl game before so I was mostly basing my bowl choices on what I would want if I was the athletic director or football coach.
I love baseball. It is my favorite sport. [/quote]
I’ve only “traveled” per se, once. I went to Memphis for the Liberty Bowl v. CSU in 2002. I’ve been to all 3 Houston Bowls and the first Ft Worth bowl against Boise. Had a great time at each.
College baseball has quickly become my second favorite sport. I saw all 4 TCU Utah games this year. TCU won every game, but they were all close games.
Whoo I go to UT Austin, what’s up now, have you ever heard of a quarterback completing 81% of his passes?
Sure! I’ve seen that before.
Then they play a team with good defense (usually in the SEC), and that number goes down. 
[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:
Sure! I’ve seen that before.
Then they play a team with good defense (usually in the SEC), and that number goes down. ;)[/quote]
Except if Penn State gets passed Ohio State they won’t see a SEC team.
Beating the SEC Champ should be a requirement for any number 1 team.
[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:
Sure! I’ve seen that before.
Then they play a team with good defense (usually in the SEC), and that number goes down. ;)[/quote]
If Florida can put up 51 points on an SEC team (LSU, who btw is supposed to have a good defense) when all they have consistently is Tebow and Harvin (hell of a combo though) Then I bet the good Big 12 teams could put up 51 or more.
Most years I’d say not a chance in hell against the SEC(and this is comin from a guy at a school in the ACC), but this year is different. Probably not all em but I’d definitely say Texas, Oklahoma, and maybe Oklahoma State(probably not but can’t deny that offense is playing well) while Missouri, Kansas, and Texas Tech would have a shot but it wouldn’t be likely for those last 3.
[quote]Spike9726 wrote:
Geebus wrote:
I have never traveled to a bowl game before so I was mostly basing my bowl choices on what I would want if I was the athletic director or football coach.
I love baseball. It is my favorite sport.
I’ve only “traveled” per se, once. I went to Memphis for the Liberty Bowl v. CSU in 2002. I’ve been to all 3 Houston Bowls and the first Ft Worth bowl against Boise. Had a great time at each.
College baseball has quickly become my second favorite sport. I saw all 4 TCU Utah games this year. TCU won every game, but they were all close games. [/quote]
College baseball is fun to watch. TCU has a good team.
As far as football goes, I am predicting TCU to force six turnovers against Wyoming. They are horrendous.