College Football

[quote]Himora22 wrote:
haha…USC lost. Just another reason for the BCS to be thrown to the way-side[/quote]

How about they just kick the worthless Pac-10 out of the BCS?

I’m all for a playoff, so doing away with the BCS in favor of a playoff to determine a real champion would be real nice.

I am so happy the USC lost. I have said for several years that the PAC-10 is a worthless conference, and the keep proving me right.

With the weakness of USC’s schedule, this should put them out of serious title contention, unless all the other 9 teams in the top ten start losing.

The real USC goin down is a shocker tonight, but they did the one thing no College QB I’ve seen this year can overcome and that is gettin hit in the mouth. Oregon State hit USC in the mouth all night long

While I’ll admit I can’t stand a few conferences, totally gettin rid of one out of the BCS isn’t smart, getting rid of the whole BCS system would be smart. But anyone else noticed the trend so far each week? Week 1 it was ACC being really bad, next week the Big East, then the Big Ten, and now the Pac 10, different conference every week. That has to stop eventually.

Game of the week IMO(and I’ll say it now I don’t care much for the SEC) is Bama at UGA, how they didn’t get 8 PM ABC game is beyond me(unless the package with ESPN dictated that)

As upset as I am about USC losing tonight, lets not forget this was the same USC team that spanked Ohio State. Yes THE Ohio State. USC choked, they didnt prepare and took this game too lightly. Oregon State was hungry tonight, and was playing on a whole different level than USC tonight. This is MY team, this USC that wont get their shit together. My alma mater. This team is good, just didnt play well tonight. John Robinson (my old coach) said you are never quite as good or as bad as you look. I think he is right.

They are probably out of the national title race, unless some crazy shit like last season happens.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

They are probably out of the national title race, unless some crazy shit like last season happens. [/quote]

Bingo. Last season was an excellent example of what can always happen. You just don’t know who’s gonna beat who; who’s gonna be up for a game, while the other team is down. Also, the preseason rankings have been pretty much “adjusted.”

Bottom Line: There just "ain’t no tellin’ " until bowl season gets here. Don’t count your team out 'til January!

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
As upset as I am about USC losing tonight, lets not forget this was the same USC team that spanked Ohio State. Yes THE Ohio State. USC choked, they didnt prepare and took this game too lightly. Oregon State was hungry tonight, and was playing on a whole different level than USC tonight. This is MY team, this USC that wont get their shit together. My alma mater. This team is good, just didnt play well tonight. John Robinson (my old coach) said you are never quite as good or as bad as you look. I think he is right.

They are probably out of the national title race, unless some crazy shit like last season happens. [/quote]

You sound as if beating Ohio State was some huge accomplishment. The Buckeyes suck ass. Hell, they are struggling against 2nd tier schools. I doubt they even make a bowl game this year.

USC lost because they got their asses handed to them. OSU executed, and USC could not tackle for shit. he better team won last night.

[quote]rainjack wrote:

USC lost because they got their asses handed to them. OSU executed, and USC could not tackle for shit. he better team won last night.

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True, and this was the same OSU team that got mutilated by Penn State 45-14 in week 2 (38-0 in the 4th quarter). Bizarre how differently teams can play from week to week.

In any case, since PSU kicked Oregon State’s ass, and Oregon State beat #1 USC, I’m pretty sure they should just go ahead and make Penn State #1. Yup, that’s fair, they should do that.

[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
rainjack wrote:

USC lost because they got their asses handed to them. OSU executed, and USC could not tackle for shit. he better team won last night.

True, and this was the same OSU team that got mutilated by Penn State 45-14 in week 2 (38-0 in the 4th quarter). Bizarre how differently teams can play from week to week.

In any case, since PSU kicked Oregon State’s ass, and Oregon State beat #1 USC, I’m pretty sure they should just go ahead and make Penn State #1. Yup, that’s fair, they should do that.[/quote]

The announcers were having Nittany Lion orgasms last night, so you do have some support for that idea.

PSU may have a decent season if they can keep their players out of jail.

You knew this was going to happen! USC loses one game every year to an unranked opponent. Then they end up winning the rest of their games for the season and somehow find themselves back in the top 3 come bowl time.

The Beavers deserved to win! You could tell they were amped up the entire game. And no one could stop Rodgers (both of them) during the whole game. They kept trying to tackle him high (he’s too small for that) or they were unable to see him behind his blockers. That was awesome!

I wouldn’t knock USC out completely, as I think you can suffer one (even two losses) in the season and still make it to the BCS game if the cards fall in your favor (look at LSU last year).

This weekend will be a good one in the SEC with Alabama at Georgia (I’ll go with Georgia in a close, tough game!), Ole Miss at Florida (Florida win, but it may not be easy. I was at the game when Ole Miss came in and beat Florida in 2003. Since I’ll be at the game this weekend, hopefully it won’t be a repeat of that game.), Tennessee at Auburn (Auburn win), Arkansas at Texas (Texas win) and Mississippi State at LSU (LSU win).

[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:
You knew this was going to happen! USC loses one game every year to an unranked opponent. Then they end up winning the rest of their games for the season and somehow find themselves back in the top 3 come bowl time.

The Beavers deserved to win! You could tell they were amped up the entire game. And no one could stop Rodgers (both of them) during the whole game. They kept trying to tackle him high (he’s too small for that) or they were unable to see him behind his blockers. That was awesome!

I wouldn’t knock USC out completely, as I think you can suffer one (even two losses) in the season and still make it to the BCS game if the cards fall in your favor (look at LSU last year).

This weekend will be a good one in the SEC with Alabama at Georgia (I’ll go with Georgia in a close, tough game!), Ole Miss at Florida (Florida win, but it may not be easy. I was at the game when Ole Miss came in and beat Florida in 2003. Since I’ll be at the game this weekend, hopefully it won’t be a repeat of that game.), Tennessee at Auburn (Auburn win), Arkansas at Texas (Texas win) and Mississippi State at LSU (LSU win).[/quote]

As it stands right now, USC is going to have to depend on how the cards fall. They can win out, and most likely be back in the BCS picture, but there is no way in hell they get a title shot if there are any undefeated teams from the Big-12, or SEC left at the end of the season.

If OSU wins out - they win the Pac-10.

There is still so much up in the air, there is no telling what will happen. Especially during rivalry week.

This is why you have to love college football, NEVER did anyone think this stuff was possible almost EVERY week until last season. With the conference schedules not having hit their strong stretch yet for the rest of the year, I am very curious to see which two teams make it to the title game in January. Could be no teams from Big 12/SEC if it falls right.

[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
In any case, since PSU kicked Oregon State’s ass, and Oregon State beat #1 USC, I’m pretty sure they should just go ahead and make Penn State #1. Yup, that’s fair, they should do that.[/quote]

TCU beat Stanford last year (this year too) after Stanford had just beaten USC, so TCU should be #1. Actually this weekend should tell a lot. I have it on good authority that the team in white pants will win.

Well time to eat my crow sandwich. I’d been preaching the virtues of USC and must face the music. A couple thoughts:

  1. I think last night was a good illustration of what I was telling WxHerx in my post above regarding the way every other team in the Pac-10 gets fired up for the USC game. You could see it in the fans and the team how much Oregon St. was amped up for the game. USC got Oregon St.'s best shot.

  2. USC got out coached in that game. I am still amazed how much USC continued to go to McKnight when it was clear that he was not doing shit and having one of the worst games of his life. McKnight not only failed to produce, but also fumbled the ball and failed to cover two punts that gave USC terrible field position (more on this later).

Meanwhile, C.J. Gable was effective everytime he touched the ball (which was not often enough). IMO, McKnight should have sat on the bench while C.J. Gable ran sweeps to the outside and Stefon Johnson ran up the middle.

Also, how fucking obvious does it have to be that Jacuzzi is going to run the ball for Oregon St. up the middle on every play? I was screaming for USC to put 8 or 9 men in the box.

Moreover, Jacuzzi hardly ever ran the ball to the outside; it was up the middle, up the middle, up the middle. Yet USC’s front four would line up with a two foot gap between them and linebackers poised on the corners. USC would have been better served to have its linemen line up shoulder to shoulder with the 'backers filling in behind.

  1. Everything–and I mean EVERYTHING–went Oregon St.'s way last night. A few phantom holding calls against USC called back key first-down runs that resulted in USC being set up in a 1st-and-20 situation.

Two shanked punts that should have given USC good field position miraculously bounced down inside the USC 5 yd. line. A USC corner tips a horrible Oregon St. pass right into the Oregon St. receiver’s hands for a touchdown right before the half. USC literally could not catch a break all night.

  1. USC looked rusty in the beginning of the game coming of yet another week break. As Bauer pointed out (and we saw from USC against OSU and Nebraska last year), this often results in an ugly initial showing by a college football team.

Unfortunately, this combined with all of the above to lead to a hole that USC could not dig itself out of.

  1. Jacuzzi presented a serious match-up problem for USC. Having seen USC play Vince Young, Dennis Dixon, and Terelle Pryor, it is clear that they tend to have problems with a flighty, shifty runner in a zone running scheme. It’s like they get mesmerized or something.

Unlike RJ, I do not believe that Oregon St. is a better team than USC. If you play that game 10 times, USC wins at least 7 of them.

In my opinion, last night was sort of a perfect storm of uncharacteristically bad coaching by USC, bad play by USC, a fired up opponent, crazy bad luck, and week off before the game.

That said, I wholeheartedly believe that USC does not deserve to be in the NC game. In a season where the SEC and Big 12 are so strong, USC’s only claim to the NC game was a perfect record.

Without one, a one-loss USC only gets in if the best team in the SEC and/or Big 12 has two or more losses. Personally, I’d like to see Missouri win the whole thing.

[quote]eic wrote:
Well time to eat my crow sandwich. I’d been preaching the virtues of USC and must face the music. A couple thoughts:

  1. I think last night was a good illustration of what I was telling WxHerx in my post above regarding the way every other team in the Pac-10 gets fired up for the USC game. You could see it in the fans and the team how much Oregon St. was amped up for the game. USC got Oregon St.'s best shot.

  2. USC got out coached in that game. I am still amazed how much USC continued to go to McKnight when it was clear that he was not doing shit and having one of the worst games of his life. McKnight not only failed to produce, but also fumbled the ball and failed to cover two punts that gave USC terrible field position (more on this later).

Meanwhile, C.J. Gable was effective everytime he touched the ball (which was not often enough). IMO, McKnight should have sat on the bench while C.J. Gable ran sweeps to the outside and Stefon Johnson ran up the middle.

Also, how fucking obvious does it have to be that Jacuzzi is going to run the ball for Oregon St. up the middle on every play? I was screaming for USC to put 8 or 9 men in the box.

Moreover, Jacuzzi hardly ever ran the ball to the outside; it was up the middle, up the middle, up the middle. Yet USC’s front four would line up with a two foot gap between them and linebackers poised on the corners. USC would have been better served to have its linemen line up shoulder to shoulder with the 'backers filling in behind.

  1. Everything–and I mean EVERYTHING–went Oregon St.'s way last night. A few phantom holding calls against USC called back key first-down runs that resulted in USC being set up in a 1st-and-20 situation.

Two shanked punts that should have given USC good field position miraculously bounced down inside the USC 5 yd. line. A USC corner tips a horrible Oregon St. pass right into the Oregon St. receiver’s hands for a touchdown right before the half. USC literally could not catch a break all night.

  1. USC looked rusty in the beginning of the game coming of yet another week break. As Bauer pointed out (and we saw from USC against OSU and Nebraska last year), this often results in an ugly initial showing by a college football team.

Unfortunately, this combined with all of the above to lead to a hole that USC could not dig itself out of.

  1. Jacuzzi presented a serious match-up problem for USC. Having seen USC play Vince Young, Dennis Dixon, and Terelle Pryor, it is clear that they tend to have problems with a flighty, shifty runner in a zone running scheme. It’s like they get mesmerized or something.

Unlike RJ, I do not believe that Oregon St. is a better team than USC. If you play that game 10 times, USC wins at least 7 of them.

In my opinion, last night was sort of a perfect storm of uncharacteristically bad coaching by USC, bad play by USC, a fired up opponent, crazy bad luck, and week off before the game.

That said, I wholeheartedly believe that USC does not deserve to be in the NC game. In a season where the SEC and Big 12 are so strong, USC’s only claim to the NC game was a perfect record.

Without one, a one-loss USC only gets in if the best team in the SEC and/or Big 12 has two or more losses. Personally, I’d like to see Missouri win the whole thing. [/quote]

While I do agree with you, USC did have 8 or 9 in the box and STILL couldn’t stop them. Just because a team knows what is coming doesn’t mean they are going to be able to stop them, and that was clear last night. Oregon State hit them in the mouth from the start and through the entire game.

UCONN and Louisville just started. I’ll go with Louisville for this game (they have home field advantage), although, I believe UCONN could potentially win this game or at least keep it close. We’ll see how that goes!

Big games going on tomorrow. Here are my top picks:

2 Oklahoma over 24 TCU (possible upset alert!)
3 Georgia over 8 Alabama (great matchup, possible upset alert, but going with the Bulldogs at home in a tough game)
4 Florida over Ole Miss
5 LSU over Mississippi State
7 Texas over Arkansas
9 Wisconsin over Michigan
12 Penn State over 22 Illinois (Zooker is struggling!)
13 USF over NC State (another possible upset alert!)
14 Ohio State over Minnesota (with Wells back, I don’t think Minnesota will have a chance of an upset).
15 Auburn over Tennessee
20 Clemson over Maryland
Colorado over FSU (FSU is disappointing me this year)
Miami over North Carolina
Purdue over Notre Dame (Notre Dame could win this one though! But I’m going with the Boilermakers)
Nebraska over Virginia Tech (Go Cornhuskers!)

I’ll be at the Gator game and will have to check in on this tomorrow night to see how the above teams do.

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Nebraska over Virginia Tech (Go Cornhuskers!)[/quote]

Thank you, kind sir. Crossing fingers that ABC will decide to air this game on the West Coast instead of Penn St.-Illinois.

Have fun! And if you get another chance, I’ll take a signed Tebow jersey, size medium. Thanks, bud!

[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:
I’ll be at the Gator game and will have to check in on this tomorrow night to see how the above teams do.

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You sum’bitch. I need to make it down to Florida sometime next year and catch a game! Have fun… I’d love to see that defense play in person.

[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:

3 Georgia over 8 Alabama (great matchup, possible upset alert, but going with the Bulldogs at home in a tough game)

I’ll be at the Gator game and will have to check in on this tomorrow night to see how the above teams do.

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How many Gator fans were crying? I did not get to see the game, but I have been checking the score. Miss scored 24 points in the 2nd half. What happened in this game?

I want the U and FSU to become football powerhouses again. I think it would be sick if 1 Miami, 2 FSU, and 3 Florida (yea I know I live in a dreamland).

TCU is going to get crushed.

I think Alabama is going to beat Georgia as well.

USC goes down, Florida goes down, my team goes down(sorry for the language but F’N unacceptable yet again, bout tired of Bowden’s BS down here), who else is gonna go down this weekend? OU better look out

[quote]Kreal7 wrote:
Nate Dogg wrote:

3 Georgia over 8 Alabama (great matchup, possible upset alert, but going with the Bulldogs at home in a tough game)

I’ll be at the Gator game and will have to check in on this tomorrow night to see how the above teams do.

How many Gator fans were crying? I did not get to see the game, but I have been checking the score. Miss scored 24 points in the 2nd half. What happened in this game?

I want the U and FSU to become football powerhouses again. I think it would be sick if 1 Miami, 2 FSU, and 3 Florida (yea I know I live in a dreamland).

TCU is going to get crushed.

I think Alabama is going to beat Georgia as well.
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Ole Miss blocked the PAT on Floridas last touchdown.
Interesting stat with TCU, they are 5-1 against the Big 12(including a win over OU), Don’t sleep on the Horned Frogs, and I do agree on Bama beatin Georgia