College Football 2011 2.0

[JoeGood]

Okay Now that the NC game is over and we are left with nothing college football wise but to speculate what next year looking like?

As far as I can tell Oregon and SC will fight it out for the PAC-10.

Wisconsin should be king again of the B1G if they can find somebody to hand off to Ball.

The B-12 is sort of up in the air with Weeden leaving so does OU pick back up or can OSU hang around. Does Texas continue to be irrelevant or does having the best recruiting area in the country pay of next year?

In the Big East, oh shit nevermind sorry.

In the SEC it will be a down year for Bama with so many guys leaving. LSU has the top ranked QB recruit coming in but freshmen QB’s are problematic. Is this the year Arkansas takes the next step? Georgia has a lot of young talent too.

[DixiesFinest]

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
You honestly believe this Alabama defence and especially secondary does what they did today against a quick-snap quality QB? Sorry but the Tide’s defence was made to look good today by horrible offensive execution from LSU. I have no doubt Stanford, OSU and possibly even Oregon can put up at least 20 on that 'Bama D.

I watched the entire game from kick-off to final whistle and I can say Les Miles forgot his balls in his wife’s mouth last night. There was absolutely no change in LSU’s offensive approach for the length of the game. Miles and his team should have changed things up at half-time when they saw their options and laterals weren’t working. He could have taken Jefferson off or at the very least let his QB throw it on first down.

I should probably say I hate the SEC and the actual college football competitive format. It’s hard for me to put up with ESPN’s B.S every year and take the sport seriously until they incorporate a playoff system. I’m not even a TCU or Boise fan but the crap they have to take each year is disgraceful.

I see USC and the PAC showing up 'Bama and the SEC next year.[/quote]

Yep, Les Miles suddenly forgot how to coach. I mean really he only has two other NC Rings why should anyone think he can coach?

I do happen to think you have one salient point. I also think Stanford, Oregon and Ok. St. put up 14-20 on Bama. Of course I bet Bama puts up 40 on those absolutely wretched deenses. You did see the tackling in both of those bowl games right?

Seriously, change your tampon and get the hell over your rediculousness. Your crazy cat lady dislike of something doesn’t make it fact.

If you think Bama is going to make the NC game next year, after all the guys we lose this year, to play SC you need to stop talking about football and watch some.[/quote]

You know joe? Youre a pretty solid guy.

[Derek542]

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
So here is the deal…

We have a family friend here in Little Rock, who is good friends with Jerry Jones and some of the Cotton Bowl higher ups, and he got to watch the Cotton Bowl from Jerry Jones’ private box. While up there, he got to talk to said higher ups about the future of football, and here is what they said…

Tomorrow, the conference leaders are meeting to discuss the new BCS agreement that will be forthcoming. The word is there is finally a majority that will be able to push through a new end game, commonly called the “+1.” Had the +1 been applied this year, it would have worked out as such:

(1) LSU v (4) Stanford

(2) Alabama v (3) Oklahoma St

• Winner vs Winner for National Title

Sounds like change is finally coming, change spearheaded apparently (according to these higher ups) from the SEC commissioner and a few others.

EDIT - clarity[/quote]

I could kiss you you big bastard you.

[DixiesFinest]

[quote]JoeGood wrote:
Okay Now that the NC game is over and we are left with nothing college football wise but to speculate what next year looking like?

As far as I can tell Oregon and SC will fight it out for the PAC-10.

Wisconsin should be king again of the B1G if they can find somebody to hand off to Ball.

The B-12 is sort of up in the air with Weeden leaving so does OU pick back up or can OSU hang around. Does Texas continue to be irrelevant or does having the best recruiting area in the country pay of next year?

In the Big East, oh shit nevermind sorry.

In the SEC it will be a down year for Bama with so many guys leaving. LSU has the top ranked QB recruit coming in but freshmen QB’s are problematic. Is this the year Arkansas takes the next step? Georgia has a lot of young talent too.

[/quote]

USC is going to utterly dominate the pac next year. I believe that they would have beaten Oregon in the pac championship, if not for the NCAA bullshit sanctions.

As for Arkansas, it all depends on how well Haynes works the defense this offseason. We showed up at the Cotton Bowl defensively, looking better than we had in years (a running offense/qb was held to 80 yards on 40 attempts). Petrino says that the offense will not miss a beat, due to getting Knile Davis back and the plethora of young and very good receivers we had backing up our starters this year.

[educote]

Not sure what to say except that was hard to watch as an LSU fan. Congrats to Saban and Bama. Their preparation and execution was top notch. LSU’s preparation was not apparent and execution non-existent. Just plain ugly.

[Tex_Ag]

[quote]JoeGood wrote:
Okay Now that the NC game is over and we are left with nothing college football wise but to speculate what next year looking like?

As far as I can tell Oregon and SC will fight it out for the PAC-10.

Wisconsin should be king again of the B1G if they can find somebody to hand off to Ball.

The B-12 is sort of up in the air with Weeden leaving so does OU pick back up or can OSU hang around. Does Texas continue to be irrelevant or does having the best recruiting area in the country pay of next year?

In the Big East, oh shit nevermind sorry.

In the SEC it will be a down year for Bama with so many guys leaving. LSU has the top ranked QB recruit coming in but freshmen QB’s are problematic. Is this the year Arkansas takes the next step? Georgia has a lot of young talent too.

[/quote]

I think tu will have another disappointing season as A&M is now poised to skim off more of the top talent in Texas.

I think Arkansas will have another good season.

When does the Big East debacle start?

Do y’all think WV will be moving to Big 12 by next season?

[Derek542]

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:
Okay Now that the NC game is over and we are left with nothing college football wise but to speculate what next year looking like?

As far as I can tell Oregon and SC will fight it out for the PAC-10.

Wisconsin should be king again of the B1G if they can find somebody to hand off to Ball.

The B-12 is sort of up in the air with Weeden leaving so does OU pick back up or can OSU hang around. Does Texas continue to be irrelevant or does having the best recruiting area in the country pay of next year?

In the Big East, oh shit nevermind sorry.

In the SEC it will be a down year for Bama with so many guys leaving. LSU has the top ranked QB recruit coming in but freshmen QB’s are problematic. Is this the year Arkansas takes the next step? Georgia has a lot of young talent too.

[/quote]

I think tu will have another disappointing season as A&M is now poised to skim off more of the top talent in Texas.

I think Arkansas will have another good season.

When does the Big East debacle start?

Do y’all think WV will be moving to Big 12 by next season?[/quote]

If they can keep a RB healthy and stick with Case McCoy I think they can do some damage.

He flipped the total O scheme and with two young QB’s that leads to inconsistent season. BUT they did start to develop a running game, and if he sticks with 1 QB UT should have a better season. Not BCS championship season but at least challenge OU for the top of Big 12.

[Derek542]

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

In the SEC it will be a down year for Bama with so many guys leaving.

[/quote]

But that QB looked half way decent last night for a young QB he will develop, also Saban has been recruiting so he will reload. I agree they may not challenge for BCS but I dont see a “down” year as in losing 3-4 games.

[JoeGood]

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

In the SEC it will be a down year for Bama with so many guys leaving.

[/quote]

But that QB looked half way decent last night for a young QB he will develop, also Saban has been recruiting so he will reload. I agree they may not challenge for BCS but I dont see a “down” year as in losing 3-4 games.[/quote]

I don’t know, next years team looks like the 2010 team that lost three games due to inexperience then gelled near the end of the season and murdered Michigan St in its bowl.

I agree there will be talent but the fall off in experience will cost us some games.

We get Mchigan first thing which will be a test for a defense with five new players, three of whom are projected first round picks and one projected second round pick. I think we “should” beat Michigan but Robinson is the kind of QB that will feast on the young and inexperienced when they make mistakes, particularly blown gap assignments.

Then our third game is on the road at Arkansas. Again, on the whole, I think Bama will bring more talent to the game but I think Arkansas will have more experience and I think its going to be a hell of a game but one Bama could lose.

Those are two big tests early on for a young defense. If these games were later in the season I might change my mind.

[JoeGood]

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
You honestly believe this Alabama defence and especially secondary does what they did today against a quick-snap quality QB? Sorry but the Tide’s defence was made to look good today by horrible offensive execution from LSU. I have no doubt Stanford, OSU and possibly even Oregon can put up at least 20 on that 'Bama D.

I watched the entire game from kick-off to final whistle and I can say Les Miles forgot his balls in his wife’s mouth last night. There was absolutely no change in LSU’s offensive approach for the length of the game. Miles and his team should have changed things up at half-time when they saw their options and laterals weren’t working. He could have taken Jefferson off or at the very least let his QB throw it on first down.

I should probably say I hate the SEC and the actual college football competitive format. It’s hard for me to put up with ESPN’s B.S every year and take the sport seriously until they incorporate a playoff system. I’m not even a TCU or Boise fan but the crap they have to take each year is disgraceful.

I see USC and the PAC showing up 'Bama and the SEC next year.[/quote]

Yep, Les Miles suddenly forgot how to coach. I mean really he only has two other NC Rings why should anyone think he can coach?

I do happen to think you have one salient point. I also think Stanford, Oregon and Ok. St. put up 14-20 on Bama. Of course I bet Bama puts up 40 on those absolutely wretched deenses. You did see the tackling in both of those bowl games right?

Seriously, change your tampon and get the hell over your rediculousness. Your crazy cat lady dislike of something doesn’t make it fact.

If you think Bama is going to make the NC game next year, after all the guys we lose this year, to play SC you need to stop talking about football and watch some.[/quote]

You know joe? Youre a pretty solid guy.[/quote]

Thanks, I try.

I’m a fan no doubt but I try to look at things as objectivly as possible.

[BradTGIF]

Congrats to Bama and Saban.

Three NC’s in 9 years is pretty freaking spectacular. I’m very ready for a national champion to come out of some other conference though. This SEC dominance has to tail off at some point.

As for LSU.

How did Jarret Lee not get on the field at all? Miles is going to be drilled with those questions today thru all off season I’m sure.

[JoeGood]

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

Congrats to Bama and Saban.

Three NC’s in 9 years is pretty freaking spectacular. I’m very ready for a national champion to come out of some other conference though. This SEC dominance has to tail off at some point.

As for LSU.

How did Jarret Lee not get on the field at all? Miles is going to be drilled with those questions today thru all off season I’m sure. [/quote]

I think it was due to how poorly Lee played in the first game.

Plus Lee had 1 touchdown and seven picks when playing against Alabama for his career. The only QB who is more afraid of bama’s crimson is Kirk Cousins.

I think you have a good chance for a non-SEC team next year. All of the top teams will have some issues.

[BradTGIF]

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

Congrats to Bama and Saban.

Three NC’s in 9 years is pretty freaking spectacular. I’m very ready for a national champion to come out of some other conference though. This SEC dominance has to tail off at some point.

As for LSU.

How did Jarret Lee not get on the field at all? Miles is going to be drilled with those questions today thru all off season I’m sure. [/quote]

I think it was due to how poorly Lee played in the first game.

Plus Lee had 1 touchdown and seven picks when playing against Alabama for his career. The only QB who is more afraid of bama’s crimson is Kirk Cousins.

I think you have a good chance for a non-SEC team next year. All of the top teams will have some issues.[/quote]

I completely understand what you mean. But when your offence hasn’t done a stinking thing for an entire half, how do you stay with that gameplan when there is a serviceable QB on the sideline?

At that point it seems you’re praying for Bama offense to have a turnover or an injury or for special teams to make a play.

You’ve basically conceded the victory, IMO.

[JoeGood]

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

Congrats to Bama and Saban.

Three NC’s in 9 years is pretty freaking spectacular. I’m very ready for a national champion to come out of some other conference though. This SEC dominance has to tail off at some point.

As for LSU.

How did Jarret Lee not get on the field at all? Miles is going to be drilled with those questions today thru all off season I’m sure. [/quote]

I think it was due to how poorly Lee played in the first game.

Plus Lee had 1 touchdown and seven picks when playing against Alabama for his career. The only QB who is more afraid of bama’s crimson is Kirk Cousins.

I think you have a good chance for a non-SEC team next year. All of the top teams will have some issues.[/quote]

I completely understand what you mean. But when your offence hasn’t done a stinking thing for an entire half, how do you stay with that gameplan when there is a serviceable QB on the sideline?

At that point it seems you’re praying for Bama offense to have a turnover or an injury or for special teams to make a play.

You’ve basically conceded the victory, IMO.
[/quote]

The thing is though that LSU had gotten that game changing play from its defense and special teams before. I think Miles was kind of waiting for it to start pulling out the tricks.

[BradTGIF]

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

Congrats to Bama and Saban.

Three NC’s in 9 years is pretty freaking spectacular. I’m very ready for a national champion to come out of some other conference though. This SEC dominance has to tail off at some point.

As for LSU.

How did Jarret Lee not get on the field at all? Miles is going to be drilled with those questions today thru all off season I’m sure. [/quote]

I think it was due to how poorly Lee played in the first game.

Plus Lee had 1 touchdown and seven picks when playing against Alabama for his career. The only QB who is more afraid of bama’s crimson is Kirk Cousins.

I think you have a good chance for a non-SEC team next year. All of the top teams will have some issues.[/quote]

I completely understand what you mean. But when your offence hasn’t done a stinking thing for an entire half, how do you stay with that gameplan when there is a serviceable QB on the sideline?

At that point it seems you’re praying for Bama offense to have a turnover or an injury or for special teams to make a play.

You’ve basically conceded the victory, IMO.
[/quote]

The thing is though that LSU had gotten that game changing play from its defense and special teams before. I think Miles was kind of waiting for it to start pulling out the tricks.
[/quote]

That’s what’s dissapointing. When the fourth quarter begins and you’re down by two scores you have to start executing your own game plan rather than play the waiting game. Forgive my innacuracy but I think there was about 13 minutes left in the 4th when LSU had to punt. No fake, didn’t go for it, just punted it away. Fully knowing that they were giving the ball to an offence that was going to chow down on the clock and either get another field goal or punt them in to crappy field position.

So many times in the past Miles would have created something in that moment, but it didn’t happen. They were tentative, gunshy, and they played too close to the vest.

Damn shame, they deserve to be the champions, but now they’re Oregon, more or less. Miles.

Ha!

[JoeGood]

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

Congrats to Bama and Saban.

Three NC’s in 9 years is pretty freaking spectacular. I’m very ready for a national champion to come out of some other conference though. This SEC dominance has to tail off at some point.

As for LSU.

How did Jarret Lee not get on the field at all? Miles is going to be drilled with those questions today thru all off season I’m sure. [/quote]

I think it was due to how poorly Lee played in the first game.

Plus Lee had 1 touchdown and seven picks when playing against Alabama for his career. The only QB who is more afraid of bama’s crimson is Kirk Cousins.

I think you have a good chance for a non-SEC team next year. All of the top teams will have some issues.[/quote]

I completely understand what you mean. But when your offence hasn’t done a stinking thing for an entire half, how do you stay with that gameplan when there is a serviceable QB on the sideline?

At that point it seems you’re praying for Bama offense to have a turnover or an injury or for special teams to make a play.

You’ve basically conceded the victory, IMO.
[/quote]

The thing is though that LSU had gotten that game changing play from its defense and special teams before. I think Miles was kind of waiting for it to start pulling out the tricks.
[/quote]

That’s what’s dissapointing. When the fourth quarter begins and you’re down by two scores you have to start executing your own game plan rather than play the waiting game. Forgive my innacuracy but I think there was about 13 minutes left in the 4th when LSU had to punt. No fake, didn’t go for it, just punted it away. Fully knowing that they were giving the ball to an offence that was going to chow down on the clock and either get another field goal or punt them in to crappy field position.

So many times in the past Miles would have created something in that moment, but it didn’t happen. They were tentative, gunshy, and they played too close to the vest.

Damn shame, they deserve to be the champions, but now they’re Oregon, more or less. Miles.

Ha![/quote]

I think he was looking for a point whee their starting field position was good and it didn’t happen. Which is surprising, really.

[educote]

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

Congrats to Bama and Saban.

Three NC’s in 9 years is pretty freaking spectacular. I’m very ready for a national champion to come out of some other conference though. This SEC dominance has to tail off at some point.

As for LSU.

How did Jarret Lee not get on the field at all? Miles is going to be drilled with those questions today thru all off season I’m sure. [/quote]

I think it was due to how poorly Lee played in the first game.

Plus Lee had 1 touchdown and seven picks when playing against Alabama for his career. The only QB who is more afraid of bama’s crimson is Kirk Cousins.

I think you have a good chance for a non-SEC team next year. All of the top teams will have some issues.[/quote]

I completely understand what you mean. But when your offence hasn’t done a stinking thing for an entire half, how do you stay with that gameplan when there is a serviceable QB on the sideline?

At that point it seems you’re praying for Bama offense to have a turnover or an injury or for special teams to make a play.

You’ve basically conceded the victory, IMO.
[/quote]

The thing is though that LSU had gotten that game changing play from its defense and special teams before. I think Miles was kind of waiting for it to start pulling out the tricks.
[/quote]

That’s what’s dissapointing. When the fourth quarter begins and you’re down by two scores you have to start executing your own game plan rather than play the waiting game. Forgive my innacuracy but I think there was about 13 minutes left in the 4th when LSU had to punt. No fake, didn’t go for it, just punted it away. Fully knowing that they were giving the ball to an offence that was going to chow down on the clock and either get another field goal or punt them in to crappy field position.

So many times in the past Miles would have created something in that moment, but it didn’t happen. They were tentative, gunshy, and they played too close to the vest.

Damn shame, they deserve to be the champions, but now they’re Oregon, more or less. Miles.

Ha![/quote]

I think he was looking for a point whee their starting field position was good and it didn’t happen. Which is surprising, really.[/quote]

I think that is the most reasonable explanation. On various possessions, they just passed the ball or just ran the option so they did try different things but none of it worked. Add to that JJ not running when he could or doing stupid things like a shovel pass to a RB that was turning to block for you since you tucked the ball to run up the middle, etc. So, I think they tried more things than it seems because nothing good came of it and those efforts were muddled in botched snaps, penalties, etc. That said, I would have like to see Lee come in and send receivers on slants, give nad go, etc. or plays they had practiced that would get the ball out of his hand in 2 sec. or less. It didn’t appear they had that in the bag though.

[BradTGIF]

[quote]educote wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

Congrats to Bama and Saban.

Three NC’s in 9 years is pretty freaking spectacular. I’m very ready for a national champion to come out of some other conference though. This SEC dominance has to tail off at some point.

As for LSU.

How did Jarret Lee not get on the field at all? Miles is going to be drilled with those questions today thru all off season I’m sure. [/quote]

I think it was due to how poorly Lee played in the first game.

Plus Lee had 1 touchdown and seven picks when playing against Alabama for his career. The only QB who is more afraid of bama’s crimson is Kirk Cousins.

I think you have a good chance for a non-SEC team next year. All of the top teams will have some issues.[/quote]

I completely understand what you mean. But when your offence hasn’t done a stinking thing for an entire half, how do you stay with that gameplan when there is a serviceable QB on the sideline?

At that point it seems you’re praying for Bama offense to have a turnover or an injury or for special teams to make a play.

You’ve basically conceded the victory, IMO.
[/quote]

The thing is though that LSU had gotten that game changing play from its defense and special teams before. I think Miles was kind of waiting for it to start pulling out the tricks.
[/quote]

That’s what’s dissapointing. When the fourth quarter begins and you’re down by two scores you have to start executing your own game plan rather than play the waiting game. Forgive my innacuracy but I think there was about 13 minutes left in the 4th when LSU had to punt. No fake, didn’t go for it, just punted it away. Fully knowing that they were giving the ball to an offence that was going to chow down on the clock and either get another field goal or punt them in to crappy field position.

So many times in the past Miles would have created something in that moment, but it didn’t happen. They were tentative, gunshy, and they played too close to the vest.

Damn shame, they deserve to be the champions, but now they’re Oregon, more or less. Miles.

Ha![/quote]

I think he was looking for a point whee their starting field position was good and it didn’t happen. Which is surprising, really.[/quote]

I think that is the most reasonable explanation. On various possessions, they just passed the ball or just ran the option so they did try different things but none of it worked. Add to that JJ not running when he could or doing stupid things like a shovel pass to a RB that was turning to block for you since you tucked the ball to run up the middle, etc. So, I think they tried more things than it seems because nothing good came of it and those efforts were muddled in botched snaps, penalties, etc. That said, I would have like to see Lee come in and send receivers on slants, give nad go, etc. or plays they had practiced that would get the ball out of his hand in 2 sec. or less. It didn’t appear they had that in the bag though.[/quote]

Which leads me to the question of:

What the fuck have they been doing since the SEC championship game against UGA?

Partying?

Dammit man, you got a NC game in your back yard against a team that is your #1 competitor not only in conference but in recruiting and you’re not going to be the most prepared you’ve ever been ever for a game in your life ever?

You’re goona rely on Honey Badgers’ moxy singlularly against a team as powerful as Bama?

That’s what I’m dissapointed in. They weren’t nearly as prepared as Bama. Hats off to the Tide, they came in and executed. LSU came in spinning parasols and honking trombones like a mardi gras parade but none of it matters in between the endzones.

[gregron]

Ive been listening to ESPN radio this morning and I’m glad to report that every person that has been on has said how bad that game was last night lol

Their predictions for next years NC Game… USC vs LSU

Leaving that incompetent passer Jefferson in the entire game was the worst coaching move of the game. Play calling was also awful

[Chris87]

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
So here is the deal…

We have a family friend here in Little Rock, who is good friends with Jerry Jones and some of the Cotton Bowl higher ups, and he got to watch the Cotton Bowl from Jerry Jones’ private box. While up there, he got to talk to said higher ups about the future of football, and here is what they said…

Tomorrow, the conference leaders are meeting to discuss the new BCS agreement that will be forthcoming. The word is there is finally a majority that will be able to push through a new end game, commonly called the “+1.” Had the +1 been applied this year, it would have worked out as such:

(1) LSU v (4) Stanford

(2) Alabama v (3) Oklahoma St

• Winner vs Winner for National Title

Sounds like change is finally coming, change spearheaded apparently (according to these higher ups) from the SEC commissioner and a few others.

EDIT - clarity[/quote]

Did they mention anything about qualifications to be in the top 4? Like you must win your conference, a limit on teams from the same conference, or anything like that?[/quote]

If they do a plus one it will have to be just like the BCS national Championship game, top 4 in the BCS Ranking just like right now its the top 2 no matter what.

A plus one would be nice but it would be better if it was a mini playoff. This year it would have looked something like:

LSU and Bama; Bye Week

Oregon vs Wisonsin - winner plays LSU

OSU vs Stanford - winner plays Bama

Now that would have been awesome but a +1 is a step in the right direction!
[/quote]

I agree. I just absolutely hate it when people propose a playoff scenerio (bc they say the BCS is unfair) and have a million rules about who can get in. If they make a playoff, it better be the top teams no matter what.