If he does any time at all, it will be State prison and he’ll mind his own business or join a black gang like the black muslims. I forget what part of the country this dickhead is in but AB has no presence at all in NJ state prisons…minority gangs run our prisons. Particularly bloods and muslims.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
What’s worse is that most patrons wouldn’t know their rights vs those a bouncer, so they’ll play along with whatever situation the bouncer puts them in, and THIS bouncer (and I best most) knew that.
I wish Waylander was here to comment on this. He’s a bouncer or at least was.[/quote]
People usually do exactly as you instruct them in these scenarios. As a member of security staff you are in a position of perceived authority while they are in the establishment. If the guy told you to come to the basement with him, 99 out of a 100 people would comply.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
Sorry, this may sound insensitive to the topic, but what stands out to me is how freaking big the bouncer looked in that bathroom compared to the guy he was assaulting.
but in the other videos, he does not look big at all.
sort of validates what some others have said on this thread regarding how he picked an easy target…just how tiny was that little white guy he was attacking? damn.
also, I have stated it before in other threads…I am so tired of seeing lily white weaklings getting beatdown by brown people in these viral videos.
more white people need to join a boxing gym (or mma gym these days I suppose, boxing is so yeserday, lol)
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You’re right, HT. He doesn’t look big in the other vids. That kid must have been tiny.
Not to get off topic… what color are you? You look like a dude of color in many of your profile pics (by the way your wife is gorgeous).
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my father is white, my mother is/was Cuban.
thanks for the compliment on the Mexican wifey, latina’s FTW[/quote]
So you’re white. Cubans are Caucasian, except those of course that inter-married.[/quote]
Cubans are actually a very genetically diverse population of people.
most are a blend of Western European(white) native South American (Indian) and African(black) genes.
My grandfather on my mothers side had dirty-blond hair and blue eyes, my grandmother was very dark, darker than my ex wife, who was/is black.
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
Angry crowds always have the worst perception of justice…something about emotions getting in the way of good judgment.
Let’s NOT try to facilitate a racist prison gang assaulting [or killing] this guy if he does time. Or take solace in that happening.
What he did was bad, and he seemed to enjoy it a lot and really relished doing it but in the grand scheme of things there are a lot worse crimes being committed.
He beat some guy up and took his money, and scared the shit out of him in he process. And videotaped it. It was pretty malicious but overall the actions themselves don’t amount to this great injustice that deserves so much attention and backlash. It wasn’t a murder or something.
Hopefully the courts will give him a fair punishment, but as others have said if anything they’ll probably be too harsh because of the nature of this case. Hoping for him to get an ass kicking in jail [as in, after he gets his punishment] is just being mean spirited under a thin veil of righteousness.
I KNOW most people are factoring in his enjoyment of the acts in question, or the chance he’s done this before when they are deciding what he deserves…they shouldn’t be. [/quote]
I disagree.
He chose someone who he could easily prey on, look at the size difference. Should he be assaulted in prison, it would be for the same reason, and yes I do hope it happens. One thing I learned (and to a degree actually appreciated), was that when someone deserved an ass kicking, more times than not he actually got it. Sometimes from his own gang or group of people.
You would be surprised at how people can be self-policing when they know they have to pay the price for their actions.
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
Sorry, this may sound insensitive to the topic, but what stands out to me is how freaking big the bouncer looked in that bathroom compared to the guy he was assaulting.
but in the other videos, he does not look big at all.
sort of validates what some others have said on this thread regarding how he picked an easy target…just how tiny was that little white guy he was attacking? damn.
also, I have stated it before in other threads…I am so tired of seeing lily white weaklings getting beatdown by brown people in these viral videos.
more white people need to join a boxing gym (or mma gym these days I suppose, boxing is so yeserday, lol)
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You’re right, HT. He doesn’t look big in the other vids. That kid must have been tiny.
Not to get off topic… what color are you? You look like a dude of color in many of your profile pics (by the way your wife is gorgeous).
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my father is white, my mother is/was Cuban.
thanks for the compliment on the Mexican wifey, latina’s FTW[/quote]
So you’re white. Cubans are Caucasian, except those of course that inter-married.[/quote]
Cubans are actually a very genetically diverse population of people.
most are a blend of Western European(white) native South American (Indian) and African(black) genes.
My grandfather on my mothers side had dirty-blond hair and blue eyes, my grandmother was very dark, darker than my ex wife, who was/is black.
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I understand that but the original cubans prior to intermarriage with those cultures were spaniards and spaniards are Caucasian.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
Sorry, this may sound insensitive to the topic, but what stands out to me is how freaking big the bouncer looked in that bathroom compared to the guy he was assaulting.
but in the other videos, he does not look big at all.
sort of validates what some others have said on this thread regarding how he picked an easy target…just how tiny was that little white guy he was attacking? damn.
also, I have stated it before in other threads…I am so tired of seeing lily white weaklings getting beatdown by brown people in these viral videos.
more white people need to join a boxing gym (or mma gym these days I suppose, boxing is so yeserday, lol)
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You’re right, HT. He doesn’t look big in the other vids. That kid must have been tiny.
Not to get off topic… what color are you? You look like a dude of color in many of your profile pics (by the way your wife is gorgeous).
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my father is white, my mother is/was Cuban.
thanks for the compliment on the Mexican wifey, latina’s FTW[/quote]
So you’re white. Cubans are Caucasian, except those of course that inter-married.[/quote]
Cubans are actually a very genetically diverse population of people.
most are a blend of Western European(white) native South American (Indian) and African(black) genes.
My grandfather on my mothers side had dirty-blond hair and blue eyes, my grandmother was very dark, darker than my ex wife, who was/is black.
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I understand that but the original cubans prior to intermarriage with those cultures were spaniards and spaniards are Caucasian. [/quote]
you are partially correct.
True, the original inhabitants of the Iberian Peninsula were the Visigoths. Vikings basically.
But you are forgetting the many centuries of Moorish occupation of Spain…the Moors were a North African Islamic people, and much “mingling” of the genes went on at that time…thus you have the dark haired swarthy Spaniards and the fair skinned and light featured ones, and everything in between.
My grandmother would tell me that the blond/brown haired, light complected people would be called the “blue bloods” and the darker ones like herself would be referred to the “gypsy bloods”.
this was her interpretation of the slang used to refer to the people in Cuba with direct decedents to the old country(Spain), but her grasp of English was limited, so again, I am not sure of the literal translation she was intending.
Why are you splitting hairs with me on this issue? I know a little bit about my own heritage.
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
Why are you splitting hairs with me on this issue? I know a little bit about my own heritage.
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Just having fun 
And I do not think many people know that Cubans (those that did not inter-marry) along with Spaniards, are considered Caucasian (they are).
So although he [the victim] probably did the right thing of not fighting back, who would in that situation?
It would be so hard to not fight back, but if you do, you have a good chance of being killed.
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
So although he [the victim] probably did the right thing of not fighting back, who would in that situation?
It would be so hard to not fight back, but if you do, you have a good chance of being killed.[/quote]
He’s in a real tough spot and I’m not sure those that are saying they would fight back realize what a terrible spot this kid is in.
First, you can’t go to a club and fight the bouncers and win. It aint happening. You’ll get a fucking beating and once they give you a beating, they are going to slap a charge on you if they are smart (like this guy tried to do with the false police report) to try to cover themselves. They are going to claim you assaulted them (what else can they claim?).
This kid is outnumbered and he’s smaller than the bouncer(s). He can’t run (door is locked). He can’t fight and win and he can’t fight and not get in trouble. I think this is why you see him yield so quickly to being told to get on his knees and pray to the big brown cocksucker.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
So although he [the victim] probably did the right thing of not fighting back, who would in that situation?
It would be so hard to not fight back, but if you do, you have a good chance of being killed.[/quote]
He’s in a real tough spot and I’m not sure those that are saying they would fight back realize what a terrible spot this kid is in.
First, you can’t go to a club and fight the bouncers and win. It aint happening. You’ll get a fucking beating and once they give you a beating, they are going to slap a charge on you if they are smart (like this guy tried to do with the false police report) to try to cover themselves. They are going to claim you assaulted them (what else can they claim?).
This kid is outnumbered and he’s smaller than the bouncer(s). He can’t run (door is locked). He can’t fight and win and he can’t fight and not get in trouble. I think this is why you see him yield so quickly to being told to get on his knees and pray to the big brown cocksucker. [/quote]
Indeed.
I’d still have the guy ambushed after he’s done “working”.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
Why are you splitting hairs with me on this issue? I know a little bit about my own heritage.
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Just having fun And I do not think many people know that Cubans (those that did not inter-marry) along with Spaniards, are considered Caucasian (they are).[/quote]\
k, i thought so, but hard to denote emotion meaning in text sometimes.
Spaniards colonized Mexico and all of central America too, there are full-blooded Mexicans who have lived in Mexico for generations, that have fair skin, blond hair, and blue eyes.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
So although he [the victim] probably did the right thing of not fighting back, who would in that situation?
It would be so hard to not fight back, but if you do, you have a good chance of being killed.[/quote]
He’s in a real tough spot and I’m not sure those that are saying they would fight back realize what a terrible spot this kid is in.
First, you can’t go to a club and fight the bouncers and win. It aint happening. You’ll get a fucking beating and once they give you a beating, they are going to slap a charge on you if they are smart (like this guy tried to do with the false police report) to try to cover themselves. They are going to claim you assaulted them (what else can they claim?).
This kid is outnumbered and he’s smaller than the bouncer(s). He can’t run (door is locked). He can’t fight and win and he can’t fight and not get in trouble. I think this is why you see him yield so quickly to being told to get on his knees and pray to the big brown cocksucker. [/quote]
ya, Hear what you two are saying, I get it, we all would like to think “if that had been me I would have-” but you dont really know unless you were there, he was outnumbered and outgunned, and I am pretty sure ambushed by the whole situation, pretty sure he did not go into the club that night expecting trouble of any kind.
he was outnumbered and outgunned, hell, the guy holding the camera could have been even bigger than the dude assaulting him.
I like to imagine once I took a good shot or two to the head, and they locked the door, that my ass was grass, and I might as well try to fight my way out, but who knows, I might have stayed there and took my ass kicking.
Agreed with BG,
You will not win a fight with a bouncer, his boys will drag you in the back and tune your ass up good. It’s really a no-win situation.
Maximus, where are you getting that info about the shoe bomber getting assaulted?
Not that prison gangs don’t wield plenty of power, but this guy is a true “enemy of the state” and those ones are always locked up at the ADX or some undisclosed military prison
Hold on. I don’t have sound on my computer, so let me get this straight…
The bouncer demanded the kid praise (which I could obviously see) “big brown dude” or something similar?
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Hold on. I don’t have sound on my computer, so let me get this straight…
The bouncer demanded the kid praise (which I could obviously see) “big brown dude” or something similar?[/quote]
Pretty much…and “brown” isn’t a race.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Hold on. I don’t have sound on my computer, so let me get this straight…
The bouncer demanded the kid praise (which I could obviously see) “big brown dude” or something similar?[/quote]
Pretty much…and “brown” isn’t a race.[/quote]
Implying what, that this wasn’t a racial issue?
I don’t think it was, either, but not because of THAT (if that’s what you meant).
It’s a bullying issue, but I do agree that Al Sharpton would be all over it if the bouncer was white–say, our own Waylanderxx–and the dude was a scrawny black guy. It’s just the lens that society has been conditioned to look through and it’s annoying. It’s not always about race.
This guy needs a fucking beating and he needs to be embarrassed. I hope someone makes use of that personal info that was posted on the Yelp review of the strip club.
And whoever said that this isn’t an issue because the kid wasn’t murdered: get a fucking clue. The cop who beat up DJHT’s friend…did the cop MURDER the friend? No. Did he take a piss all over the ethics of conduct of his profession? Yes, and he needs to be made an example of as well.
If shit like this is ignored and more people poke fun at the kid that was beat up, the video would spawn copycat behavior, where bouncers think it’s ok (even funny) to do this shit and patrons wrongly assume bouncers have some sort of legal authority over them, enough to physically hurt them. Not a good precedent.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Hold on. I don’t have sound on my computer, so let me get this straight…
The bouncer demanded the kid praise (which I could obviously see) “big brown dude” or something similar?[/quote]
Pretty much…and “brown” isn’t a race.[/quote]
Implying what, that this wasn’t a racial issue?
I don’t think it was, either, but not because of THAT (if that’s what you meant).
It’s a bullying issue, but I do agree that Al Sharpton would be all over it if the bouncer was white–say, our own Waylanderxx–and the dude was a scrawny black guy. It’s just the lens that society has been conditioned to look through and it’s annoying. It’s not always about race.
This guy needs a fucking beating and he needs to be embarrassed. I hope someone makes use of that personal info that was posted on the Yelp review of the strip club.
And whoever said that this isn’t an issue because the kid wasn’t murdered: get a fucking clue. The cop who beat up DJHT’s friend…did the cop MURDER the friend? No. Did he take a piss all over the ethics of conduct of his profession? Yes, and he needs to be made an example of as well.
If shit like this is ignored and more people poke fun at the kid that was beat up, the video would spawn copycat behavior, where bouncers think it’s ok (even funny) to do this shit and patrons wrongly assume bouncers have some sort of legal authority over them, enough to physically hurt them. Not a good precedent.[/quote]
Well said!
[quote]chillain wrote:
Maximus, where are you getting that info about the shoe bomber getting assaulted?
Not that prison gangs don’t wield plenty of power, but this guy is a true “enemy of the state” and those ones are always locked up at the ADX or some undisclosed military prison
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During my transfer from the Nellis Camp to FCI Terminal Island, one of the guards told us what happened as we drove by Victorville USP on the I-15 South. After your questioning I did some looking around. I doubt this story happened, because he has life in the Florence ADX. A lifer like him would never set foot at Victorville USP. I thought he pled to 20 years, but I guess he got an elbow.
Dang Maximus, fed time is no joke. Talk about “inside” info…