[quote]cadav wrote:
2thepain wrote:
I think clen is a very good “cutter” not an anabolic compound[/quote]
This was my previous understanding of the drug, just wanted to verify.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
Hagar wrote:
cadav wrote:
Hagar wrote:
I love clen. IMO its by far the best thermogenic there is.
I love it I hate it 
I just think i have to learn how to use it at its best.
Which is your “classic” clen cycle?
I’m trying something like this. I start at 40mcg and bump it up every 2 weeks along with T3 except I start the T3 at 20 mcg and bump it up 10mcg every 5 days then I taper down. I might level off on clen or a bit at like 80 to 100mcgs. T3 I’ll go up to 80 or 90. The T3 keeps the clen working. I used to think tapering off of clen was BS but I’ve heard some good explanations for doing so. Obviously this is a different approach than what I’ve done in the past. I’ve tweaked a few things but along with my diet and 2 hrs of light cardio a day, I’m getting lean and not losing any muscle.
Since you didn’t mention it I’m assuming that this is without any AAS?[/quote]
No I’m on 4iu gh ED taken in the morning, 200 Mast E and 250 test E Every 4 days then I’ll move it to every 3 days pretty soon . All I know is I’ve never looked better!
[quote]2thepain wrote:
This was my previous understanding of the drug, just wanted to verify. [/quote]
it is my understanding and experience too 
[quote]Hagar wrote:
2thepain wrote:
Hagar wrote:
cadav wrote:
Hagar wrote:
I love clen. IMO its by far the best thermogenic there is.
I love it I hate it
I just think i have to learn how to use it at its best.
Which is your “classic” clen cycle?
I’m trying something like this. I start at 40mcg and bump it up every 2 weeks along with T3 except I start the T3 at 20 mcg and bump it up 10mcg every 5 days then I taper down. I might level off on clen or a bit at like 80 to 100mcgs. T3 I’ll go up to 80 or 90. The T3 keeps the clen working. I used to think tapering off of clen was BS but I’ve heard some good explanations for doing so. Obviously this is a different approach than what I’ve done in the past. I’ve tweaked a few things but along with my diet and 2 hrs of light cardio a day, I’m getting lean and not losing any muscle.
Since you didn’t mention it I’m assuming that this is without any AAS?
No I’m on 4iu gh ED taken in the morning, 200 Mast E and 250 test E Every 4 days then I’ll move it to every 3 days pretty soon . All I know is I’ve never looked better! [/quote]
Can you post a picture? id be interested to see your shape…
Joe
a little update.
the sides slowly disappear near 3-4th
i have done a 5 days of 100mcq. 2 day of stops and tomorrow i’ll restart with 120mcq for 5 days.
Just curious as to what your thoughts are following the first week?
The reason for my sudden interest in clenbuterol has to due with me unexpectedly receiving 3 bottles for free. Since I am doing a cutting cycle this I thought this may be a good time to try it out.
Not trying to hijack ur thread but didnt want to start another one either. does clen show up on a regular drug test(piss test), just wondering. thanks
Just curious, what do your diet macros look like? I’m assuming you are below maintenance, but wondering where the carbs are at.
2thepain: after first week i’m quite happy.
I can’t say i get a huge improvement but my i can see some difference in my abs zone. I think it’s a very powerfull thermogenic. In the end of my first week my temperature go from my natural 36.5 C to about 37.5-37.8 C. A big difference i had not in the past when i taper my clen.
BIGZEUS: i’m using Anabolic Diet. So my carbs are under 50gr/die. The proteins are around 3gr x kg of body weight and then come fat (omega3 and others). i’m under my maintenance of about 500-600kcal (not sure, i dont really check cal when on AD)
Sides note: anxiety come as a big monster all at once around day 6 of 1st week. WOW 
[quote]cadav wrote:
Sides note: anxiety come as a big monster all at once around day 6 of 1st week. WOW ;)[/quote]
That kind of sucks then…
Still feeling like that, or is it passing Cadav?
[quote]cadav wrote:
Sides note: anxiety come as a big monster all at once around day 6 of 1st week. WOW ;)[/quote]
Did you up the dose yet or are you still holding steady at 100mcg/day? The anxiety would be a big turn off for myself, with my wedding coming up in a few months I think I already have my fill of anxiety.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
cadav wrote:
Sides note: anxiety come as a big monster all at once around day 6 of 1st week. WOW
Did you up the dose yet or are you still holding steady at 100mcg/day? The anxiety would be a big turn off for myself, with my wedding coming up in a few months I think I already have my fill of anxiety.[/quote]
Lol!
Congratulations buddy.
ToneBone
[quote]2thepain wrote:
Did you up the dose yet or are you still holding steady at 100mcg/day? The anxiety would be a big turn off for myself, with my wedding coming up in a few months I think I already have my fill of anxiety.[/quote]
By now i have endede the 2nd week at 100.
2 weeks off than i’ll get on at 120
I have some “personal trouble” so i think this is the real cause of the anxiety. Clen empower an already raging beast i supposed
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
cadav wrote:
Sides note: anxiety come as a big monster all at once around day 6 of 1st week. WOW
That kind of sucks then…
Still feeling like that, or is it passing Cadav?[/quote]
It is not the clen.
Or to better explain… the problem is due to some personal trouble i have at the moment (not the best time frame for a clen cycle LOL)
All it’s ok by now… it was just a couple of day. now 2 weeks of and i’ll get back at 120.
I’ll see if the problem arise again.
In the past 2 weeks have you dropped a noticable amount of bodyfat? First impression, is clen worth it?
yes clen worth it.
My abs are still “under fat” but i get a better “definition” of the area. It is “emptier” and i can see the general design of abs muscle.
Bump
Did you ever run another 2 weeks of clen? I saw your extreme leaness thread in Alpha and was wondering how things are going? I am probably going to start clen next week.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
Bump
Did you ever run another 2 weeks of clen? I saw your extreme leaness thread in Alpha and was wondering how things are going? I am probably going to start clen next week.[/quote]
Bump
Just some more info and personal experience on clen in case anyone is looking for more.
I just started a small run of it myself trying to drop a few lbs before my cycle commences.
For my first dose, 50mcg was on the verge of giving me a head ache. From there on out my dosage was 30-40 mcg 2x day and I found that to work out about perfect. There was not a tremendous amount of shaking, no head aches and it gave me a mild raise in temp.
All in all dropped another 3-4 lbs in about a week and a half with little to no change in diet/cardio.
Now running an ECA type fat burner for 4-5 days and then will likley switch back to the same protocol again.
/Hijack