Jsk, could you share the simpler approaches then? (:
From what I’ve been reading the past few days.
-I should focuus on eating cleaner,
-consume more carbs and protein on days where I have intense training and less carbs, more protein and fat on non workout days.
-Stick to whole foods such as
Chicken
Beef
Pork
Almonds
Rice
Oats etc.
No soft/sugated drinks.
No processed foods as much as possible
Is this more or less alright for fat loss+muscle gain?
Any opinion is welcome!
Simpler approach meaning hitting the same damned macros every day. Keep protein reasonably high and drop carbs when you stall. Reassess each week. Diversify your fats: walnuts, almonds, olive oil, coconut oil. Eat some green veggies. Veggies are great for two reasons while cutting. 1. they can fill you up and you don’t have to count them towards your daily calories. 2. nutrient rich and you’re in a caloric deficit.
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
c’mon, you’re just trying to start shit right? You’re not even gonna mention macros? 500 calories of pizza = 500 cal of chicken breast??[/quote]
I had 1800 calories of pizza last evening as a postworkout meal. (It had pork on it i think)
Easier to eat than 1800 cal of chicken breast.
If you only have 2 abs visible though this is probably not the best thing to do for fat loss.
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
[quote]Zerpp wrote:
Eating clean on a 3000 calorie diet is the same as eating dirty on a 3000 calorie diet.
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c’mon, you’re just trying to start shit right? You’re not even gonna mention macros? 500 calories of pizza = 500 cal of chicken breast??[/quote]
No doubt. Eat 3000 cals of fish/meat, eggs, veggies, some fruits and good fats for a month and see how you look/feel. Now try 3000 of boxed cereal, bread, pasta, processed stuff etc. at the same activity level.
It’s not the same, obviously.
[quote]Field wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
c’mon, you’re just trying to start shit right? You’re not even gonna mention macros? 500 calories of pizza = 500 cal of chicken breast??[/quote]
I had 1800 calories of pizza last evening as a postworkout meal. (It had pork on it i think)
Easier to eat than 1800 cal of chicken breast.
If you only have 2 abs visible though this is probably not the best thing to do for fat loss.[/quote]
lol@pork jab
Pork is absolutely vile. It’s a living, festering laboratory.
[quote]TheFatGuy wrote:
Pork is absolutely vile. It’s a living, festering laboratory.[/quote]
What kind of experiments do they conduct in “pork”. I hope they are at least well funded.
Keep to pork jabs coming, hopefully demand will drop and bacon will be cheaper for me.
OP how serious are you about fat loss and muscle gain cos having a cheat meal 2, 3 times a week… are you serious bro, are you?!
OK, what I am trying to say is 2-3 a week is a lot. especially if you want to loose fat. IMO I have found it better and easier to just not have cheat meals planned. I find I’m a creature of habit therefore have a varied healthy diet that I can repeat daily works for me. If I was to have one today, lets say today a cheat meal then I will just not falter from my diet for at least a month. After that if a cheat meal happens to come up i’ll take it and then again a month later. See, no planned cheat meals.
There is no science to this but I like to think of a cheat meal as taking me back 3 days. Therefore to have to three a week…wtf!
Anyway listen to what the guys/gals on here say and apply it. TBH that’s the best advice I can give you.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I ate a whole pig once.
I did die.[/quote]
Hilarious.
OP - if your diet was total trash previously – full sugar sodas, pre-packaged snacks etc – then yes, cleaning that up by replacing with whole, natural foods will lead to fat loss.
But also keep in mind - it’s ABSOLUTELY possible to get/stay fat eating only oatmeal-crusted chicken breasts and other “clean” foods
I think this is different strokes for different folks. Friday night or saturday lunch are our cheat meals (depends on work schedules, since the wife and I like to take them together). Otherwise, it’s too easy, for me, to use all the food at the office as an “unplanned” cheat…or the late night session with friends 2-3 times a month, or whatever. But 2-3 a week is too many, I’d agree. But scheduling vs not seems to be a really individual thing.
[quote]critietaeta wrote:
[quote]TheFatGuy wrote:
Pork is absolutely vile. It’s a living, festering laboratory.[/quote]
What kind of experiments do they conduct in “pork”. I hope they are at least well funded.[/quote]
Pigs eat literally anything and everything you throw at them that they can bite and chew, including human flesh and pig flesh, as well as feces of any kind.
If that doesn’t disgust you and make you think, “hmm, maybe I shouldn’t be eating the flesh of such an animal,” then I don’t know what to tell you.
But hey, whatever. Don’t let me stop you from eating its meat.
You got any idea what chicken will eat? Or lobster, or shrimp, or most fish, or any sort of insect?
[quote]paulwhite959 wrote:
You got any idea what chicken will eat? Or lobster, or shrimp, or most fish, or any sort of insect? [/quote]
For chicken:
Don’t know much about seafood, but I’d bet the filthiest thing the commonly eaten fish and crustaceans eat comes nowhere near as close to the level of filth that the pig eats.
Insects eat mostly grass and dirt. The chicken’s digestive system cleans out the toxins from their food. A pig’s digestive system on the other hand doesn’t (it’s fast), and it stores much of the toxins from the things it eats.
For anybody that wants to eat “clean,” it’s just a no-brainer that pork must be the first food to go. For anybody else, whatever, it’s up to personal discretion.
any links i can get for a clean diet?
i’m in university so food choice isnt that spectacular. just brought blueberries and apples to add to the diet.
Well, if you’re not going to eat vegetables your “clean” choices are going to be pretty limited. Meat/fish/eggs, grains, nuts and fruit. If you’re further restricted to the university menu anything you would read on the subject would likely just be a list of stuff you can’t/won’t eat along with a few things you already are.
It’s just a matter of portioning to support your body comp goals.
LOL…shrimp are the roaches of the ocean but people eat them up like candy and no one calls them “vile”.
Yep. Crustaceans are detritus eaters. Shrimp, lobsters, even isopods…decaying material is what they live on. I use isopods in naturalistic vivaria because they’ll do things like help clean up snake poop, shed skins, fungus, etc. And in aquarium I’ve used shrimps for the same reason.
I’ve seen chickens eat dead chicken. And peck through cow poop for grains. I once spewed up (hungover) while visiting a friend, and his chickens started pecking through that looking for food. I go to a local farm to pick up chickens and rabbits for my pythons 2-3 times a month…they’re free range, well cared for, and I’ve seen 'em do disgusting things. They’re not any cleaner than pigs in my experience.
FTR, broccoli don’t do any of those things.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
FTR, broccoli don’t do any of those things.[/quote]
Broccoli is one of the most depraved and villainous vegetables. Fact.