[quote]crowdhater wrote:
Smoked the Oliva V in Churchill tonight with some Johnny Walker. Lanky, thx for the recommendation. By far, my favorite cigar so far. I also have Perdoma lot 23, more Oliva V, and Undercrowns taking a humi nap until they are ready to smoke. Thx again can’t wait to try the others[/quote]
Glad you enjoyed it!
Out of curiousity, what size Undercrown did you pick up? The reason I ask is that the blend in the “corona viva” size (5.5 X 46) is a bit different than all the others and my favorite of the lot. The others are still really good cigars, the corona viva, IMO, is a great cigar.
[quote]crowdhater wrote:
Smoked the Oliva V in Churchill tonight with some Johnny Walker. Lanky, thx for the recommendation. By far, my favorite cigar so far. I also have Perdoma lot 23, more Oliva V, and Undercrowns taking a humi nap until they are ready to smoke. Thx again can’t wait to try the others[/quote]
Glad you enjoyed it!
Out of curiousity, what size Undercrown did you pick up? The reason I ask is that the blend in the “corona viva” size (5.5 X 46) is a bit different than all the others and my favorite of the lot. The others are still really good cigars, the corona viva, IMO, is a great cigar. [/quote]
I got the belicoso 6x52. I don’t like smaller cigars. Only smoke once a week so I want it to last awhile. We are talking about the Drew Estate Undercrown right? A lot of good reviews on this one.
Crowdhater - one more thing I’ll add is that I was just like you when I began smoking. The larger cigars always offer more bang for your buck because you get a longer smoking experience for relatively less money.
But as I kept smoking and my palate developed, I wanted cigars that tasted better, regardless of size. And it left me with a lot of larger ring gauge cigars that I didn’t even want to smoke because as I was building my collection I bought of bunch of large cigars.
A lot of people say that smaller ring gauge cigars taste better because they have a higher wrapper to overall tobacco ratio and the wrapper is usually the highest quality tobacco on the cigar. Wrapper tobacco is usually 3x the cost of filler tobacco.
I’m not sure if it’s the ratio or what it is, but at the end of the day, I buy for flavor regardless of size these days. Because when I’m done smoking, whether it takes an hour or 2 hours, all I’m left with is the experience I had smoking it and I prefer it to be a better experience over the length of time it took to smoke it.
At the end of the day you’ll probably smoke a ton of good and bad cigars in your quest to find out what you really prefer. Throwing a couple smaller cigars in there to see if they are your thing or not isn’t the worst idea. Hell, buy the same cigar in multiple sizes and compare to really see where you want your money going.
Just something to ponder as you’re building your stash. Happy smoking, brother.
Thanks Lanky, I do notice that on the website I buy my cigars from certain sizes sellout quicker than others. Makes sense. I guess if I wanted a longer smoking experience, I could just smoke 2 robusto’s in a row. Lol. Thx again for your post.
Btw I broke my once a week rule today. Never smoked one in the a.m. It was the montecristo classic in Churchill. It's been in my humi this whole time. Lit it up....boom no smoke. Had to be the tightest draw ever. I was pissed too because it smelled so good. Oh well I remember what you said about chalking it up as a loss. Fired up a Rocky Patel Connecticut . Very nice mild smoke. Had it with some coffee.
Also since I do like toro's and Churchill's, can u think of any smokes in that size that are good?
Off topic— the Whiskey thread has reached its max. Time for Nards to make a Whiskey 2 thread!!!
Smoked a Perdoma lot 23 today after lunch. Very nice cigar for the price. Tasted earthy and had a slight orange taste. No burn issues and had a perfect draw. Thx Lanky for the recommendation. I found this story on the cigar.
Great story behind Lot #23��. A plot of jungle land owned by the local Catholic church along the road near the Perdomo factory. Perdomo approached the local priest to see about testing the soil and perhaps
using it for a tobacco vega. Behold the soil tested superior to the finest fields in the Esteli area so they made the land lease deal, cleared the growth, planted, harvested, aged and rolled a great cigar after several patient years. All the tobaccos are grown on this plot called â??Lot #23â?³â?¦â?¦Nick Perdomo says the cigar was blessed by priest making it a success.
I thought about where it came from while I was smoking it.
Also since I do like toro's and Churchill's, can u think of any smokes in that size that are good?
Off topic— the Whiskey thread has reached its max. Time for Nards to make a Whiskey 2 thread!!![/quote]
Most cigars that are manufactured are made in the toro and churchill sizes. That being said if I’m smoking a toro or churchill it’s probably a 601 red label habano or a Jaime Garcia Reserva Especial.
Btw, on cigarmonster tonight (and possibly most of the weekend) Oliva V double robustos are going for $25/5 pack with free shipping. Probably won’t see a better price on that cigar.
[quote]crowdhater wrote:
Smoked a Perdoma lot 23 today after lunch. Very nice cigar for the price. Tasted earthy and had a slight orange taste. No burn issues and had a perfect draw. Thx Lanky for the recommendation. I found this story on the cigar.
Great story behind Lot #23��. A plot of jungle land owned by the local Catholic church along the road near the Perdomo factory. Perdomo approached the local priest to see about testing the soil and perhaps
using it for a tobacco vega. Behold the soil tested superior to the finest fields in the Esteli area so they made the land lease deal, cleared the growth, planted, harvested, aged and rolled a great cigar after several patient years. All the tobaccos are grown on this plot called â??Lot #23â?³â?¦â?¦Nick Perdomo says the cigar was blessed by priest making it a success.
I thought about where it came from while I was smoking it. [/quote]
What I love about Perdomo is this: if he finds tobacco and rolls a good cigar from it, he’ll sell it under a certain name. But once that tobacco is gone he discontinues the line. Most other manufacturers (cough, Rocky Patel, cough) will have a cigar that hits big, then once the tobacco is gone they’ll replace it with different tobacco and sell under the same line. The RP Decade used to be a great cigar, now it sells on name alone and is average at best.
The Lot 23 line is a bit different because it’s a lot and he just keeps harvesting and growing tobacco leaves there. But a lot of times cigar manufacturers will experiment with a limited amount of tobacco they find or buy from someone and once that tobacco is gone, it’s impossible to replace it and keep the same profile.
Found this thread a few months ago just figured I would come and thank you for my new found love of cigars Lanky (and the new hole in my bank account). Some really great info in here it has definitely helped me navigate the world of cigars and given me some great recomendations to start me off. I actually have two of the Jamie Garcia Reservas in my tupperdor right now one darker and one lighter wrapper.
Do you have any preference between the two? Just tried the Oliva V in a lancero a couple days ago and i have to say it was probably one of my favorite cigars yet.
[quote]StrongForLife wrote:
Found this thread a few months ago just figured I would come and thank you for my new found love of cigars Lanky (and the new hole in my bank account). Some really great info in here it has definitely helped me navigate the world of cigars and given me some great recomendations to start me off. I actually have two of the Jamie Garcia Reservas in my tupperdor right now one darker and one lighter wrapper.
Do you have any preference between the two? Just tried the Oliva V in a lancero a couple days ago and i have to say it was probably one of my favorite cigars yet. [/quote]
Glad I could help out, brother!
Overall I probably prefer the maduro JG (darker) over the CT shade wrapper (lighter) but both are great cigars. I like smoking the CT shade with coffee in the morning and the maduro with bourbon at night.
Another recommendation to experiment with for anyone who wants to - grab a couple of your favorite cigars and put them in your humidor. Leave them there for at least 1 year, just completely forget you have them.
At the end of the year, go out and buy the same cigar, same size and everything. Smoke one of each two days in a row and see if you notice any refinements from the aging process. This will greatly depend on what cigar you choose but I have a feeling you’ll like the aged one a bit better, specifically if it’s a fuller body cigar to begin with.
Smoked this Brickhouse tonight with some Bowmore. Brickhouse was on Cigar Afficianado’s best bargain cigar the last 5 years. I really liked it. I’ll let the rest of them hang in my humi this winter.
[quote]crowdhater wrote:
Smoked this Brickhouse tonight with some Bowmore. Brickhouse was on Cigar Afficianado’s best bargain cigar the last 5 years. I really liked it. I’ll let the rest of them hang in my humi this winter. [/quote]
Hopefully I don’t get hate for this lol, but seriously dude, as a guy whose cigar budget is very limited, Brickhouse is like my go to staple. I’ve not found anything else that was that good for such a low price.
[quote]crowdhater wrote:
Smoked this Brickhouse tonight with some Bowmore. Brickhouse was on Cigar Afficianado’s best bargain cigar the last 5 years. I really liked it. I’ll let the rest of them hang in my humi this winter. [/quote]
Hopefully I don’t get hate for this lol, but seriously dude, as a guy whose cigar budget is very limited, Brickhouse is like my go to staple. I’ve not found anything else that was that good for such a low price.[/quote]
I smoked a ligero laced second cigar from cigar international tonight. It was my favorite cigar so far and CHEAPIST also. Trust me, my cigar budget is right there with you. When these come back in stock I recommend you jump on them. There is a seconds guide online and it says these gems are actually Oliva Cain’s. Like Lanky said, seconds are a gamble but these cigars are a win IMO.
Smoked my first cain last night and was pleasantly surprised. I believe it was the Daytona version size 6x46. Good consistent flavors and about perfect burn. Still got a cain F in the humi (got them both in an oliva sampler) apparrently its supposed to be a bit stronger than the daytona. Looking forward to trying it out as well as the brickhouse I’ve had sitting around. Has anyone here tried the Centurion? Just picked up one in belicoso they had on special at my B&M. I think its a Don Pepin smoke.
[quote]StrongForLife wrote:
Smoked my first cain last night and was pleasantly surprised. I believe it was the Daytona version size 6x46. Good consistent flavors and about perfect burn. Still got a cain F in the humi (got them both in an oliva sampler) apparrently its supposed to be a bit stronger than the daytona. Looking forward to trying it out as well as the brickhouse I’ve had sitting around. Has anyone here tried the Centurion? Just picked up one in belicoso they had on special at my B&M. I think its a Don Pepin smoke.[/quote]
Most Pepin smokes are really good, Centurion is about the average of the entire Pepin line up, IMO. But if this intrigues you at all, I really recommend checking out all of his other stuff. It’s a full bodied smoke, so be ready!
Guys, having some issues with my humidor. I use 2 Boveda packs since I got it and it has maintained exactly 69% humidity every day. I noticed recently that it has dropped to 64%. I do live in Ohio and it has been very cold and I know that can cause it to drop with the heat from your furnace. I keep the humidor in my basement where it is colder.
Should I add another Boveda pack? What about seasoning it again ? Would it help to move it upstairs where it’s warmer? My humidor is full so I don’t think that’s an issue. Any suggestions from anybody experienced with humidor issues in the winter months would be greatly appreciated. Really don’t want all my lovely cigars drying out!!
[quote]crowdhater wrote:
Guys, having some issues with my humidor. I use 2 Boveda packs since I got it and it has maintained exactly 69% humidity every day. I noticed recently that it has dropped to 64%. I do live in Ohio and it has been very cold and I know that can cause it to drop with the heat from your furnace. I keep the humidor in my basement where it is colder.
Should I add another Boveda pack? What about seasoning it again ? Would it help to move it upstairs where it’s warmer? My humidor is full so I don’t think that’s an issue. Any suggestions from anybody experienced with humidor issues in the winter months would be greatly appreciated. Really don’t want all my lovely cigars drying out!![/quote]
They will be fine. Changes in temp can cause the relative humidity to fluctuate a bit, once the temps stabilize they RH will stabilize. Even if the RH is a few points lower than in the summer time, they’ll be fine. A lot of people prefer smoking cigars at 65% anyway (hence the 65% boveda packs available).
My humidor typically goes down to about 63% for the winter and hovers around 68% in the summer.
This thread is killing me! I am sitting in my office, it’s 27 degrees out–enjoying the DOMS from deadlifting and dreaming of a nice espresso and Cuban Patagas in some tropical sun–it’s been too long…
[quote]crowdhater wrote:
Guys, having some issues with my humidor. I use 2 Boveda packs since I got it and it has maintained exactly 69% humidity every day. I noticed recently that it has dropped to 64%. I do live in Ohio and it has been very cold and I know that can cause it to drop with the heat from your furnace. I keep the humidor in my basement where it is colder.
Should I add another Boveda pack? What about seasoning it again ? Would it help to move it upstairs where it’s warmer? My humidor is full so I don’t think that’s an issue. Any suggestions from anybody experienced with humidor issues in the winter months would be greatly appreciated. Really don’t want all my lovely cigars drying out!![/quote]
They will be fine. Changes in temp can cause the relative humidity to fluctuate a bit, once the temps stabilize they RH will stabilize. Even if the RH is a few points lower than in the summer time, they’ll be fine. A lot of people prefer smoking cigars at 65% anyway (hence the 65% boveda packs available).
My humidor typically goes down to about 63% for the winter and hovers around 68% in the summer. [/quote]
Ahhhhhhh my mind is now totally at ease. Thx again brother Lanky. I still need to find somewhere to smoke these beauties when it’s cold out. Thought about going to a whisky cigar bar near me. Thx again.
