On one side you have Christians who say God created the heavens and earth on the other side you have science saying evolution/big bang yadda yadda.
In the Bible is says that God created the earth, it took 6 days on the 7th he rested, right? Ok so how far fetched could it be that both sides are right? God did create the heavens and earth, he colided a couple stars together, creating the earth, populated it with life and then began evolving it?
Now you’re thinking, “well you just stated that God did this in 6 days but evolution took millions of years” I argue that we have no idea how long a day in the life of God is? Our thought of a day is based on rotations around the sun, I don’t think God’s day revolves around such a measure, his day to us could me a million years?
Just something to thinking about, sorry for the hijack.
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
Kal-El wrote:
When you say it doesn’t make sence to you, I just can not comprehend how it couldnt. Unless you believe in a ridiculus idea that we evolved from apes or dolphins or whatever, there has to be a greater being holding the strings. Who made all this? two stars making a big bang theory? Well ask yourself this, who made the two stars to collide into each other? It doesnt make sence not to believe.
LMAO! HAHAHAHA. Yes, evolution is ridiculous and Santa is real too.
You’re either very ignorant or just intellectually challenged if you can’t tell the difference between a fictional piece of writing and fact.[/quote]
Evolution as it pertains to the creation of man is not a fact. It is a theory.
I’m currently an agnostic like everyone else. I do plan to be as Christian as possible by the time I reach my death bed though. The great thing about choosing Christianity is that you can have fun doing anything you want all your life. Then you repent right before you die and get this: They have to take you in! Yup. Rape, rob and pillage until you reach a ripe, old age and then take Jesus Christ into your heart. Poof! Off you go to everlasting rapture!
[quote]Kruiser wrote:
I’m currently an agnostic like everyone else. I do plan to be as Christian as possible by the time I reach my death bed though. The great thing about choosing Christianity is that you can have fun doing anything you want all your life. Then you repent right before you die and get this: They have to take you in! Yup. Rape, rob and pillage until you reach a ripe, old age and then take Jesus Christ into your heart. Poof! Off you go to everlasting rapture!
Sign me UP![/quote]
for your sake, I hope you have an amazing sense of timing.
I am a Christina, was not raised to be. Studied Buddhism for a time and still subscribe to Zen philosphy but not the Buddhist religion.
Who actually wrote the Bible, anyway? I know that it is the basis for Christian beliefs, and it does make a nice story, full of ancient creation mythology and folk tales, and is said to be the “inspired” word of God.
But isn’t all great literature the inspired word of God? So why choose to believe a collection of writings of unknown date and authorship, translated into English from supposed copies of supposed originals on ancient parchment that are unfortunately lost? Sounds kinda tricky to me.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Who actually wrote the Bible, anyway? I know that it is the basis for Christian beliefs, and it does make a nice story, full of ancient creation mythology and folk tales, and is said to be the “inspired” word of God.
But isn’t all great literature the inspired word of God? So why choose to believe a collection of writings of unknown date and authorship, translated into English from supposed copies of supposed originals on ancient parchment that are unfortunately lost? Sounds kinda tricky to me.
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Exactly.
It was written by ancient men, sexist ones obviously if you sit and read some of those stories.
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
Yo Momma wrote:
Who actually wrote the Bible, anyway? I know that it is the basis for Christian beliefs, and it does make a nice story, full of ancient creation mythology and folk tales, and is said to be the “inspired” word of God.
But isn’t all great literature the inspired word of God? So why choose to believe a collection of writings of unknown date and authorship, translated into English from supposed copies of supposed originals on ancient parchment that are unfortunately lost? Sounds kinda tricky to me.
Exactly.
It was written by ancient men, sexist ones obviously if you sit and read some of those stories.[/quote]
I defy you to find a religion that on face value and accordign to PC standards is NOT sexist.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Who actually wrote the Bible, anyway? I know that it is the basis for Christian beliefs, and it does make a nice story, full of ancient creation mythology and folk tales, and is said to be the “inspired” word of God.
But isn’t all great literature the inspired word of God? So why choose to believe a collection of writings of unknown date and authorship, translated into English from supposed copies of supposed originals on ancient parchment that are unfortunately lost? Sounds kinda tricky to me.
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Shhh. Don’t rock the boat. Didn’t you read my post…
Free RAPTURE!
If you blow this for us we’ll all end up dealing with karma and universal balance and such. What a pain in the ass THAT would be.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Evolution as it pertains to the creation of man is not a fact. It is a theory.
It must suck to be so horribly wrong. [/quote]
Horribly wrong? Doubt it. Slightly off the mark? Perhaps.
I never said man was created by evolution, and that was not my point in that post. That fact is that denying evolution itself (which we can clearly see it happening around us in life) and saying that the idea of a supreme invisible being in the sky is more realistic is just stupid.
Bible = something written by men and manipulated by men for thousands of years. Evolution itself, is a fact. Maybe not of how we came about, but in life around us.
Man is however constantly evolving - you think that after generations of breeding while vaccinating the body against certain diseases, the body wouldn’t eventually modify it’s genetic process to adapt to this and have the antibody from birth? That is not such a long stretch, and is also evolution.
Evolution is a theory(that has been proven on many occasions) independant of athiesm and any religious beliefs. Don’t mix the 2 since religions are based on belief and not fact.
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
I never said man was created by evolution, and that was not my point in that post. That fact is that denying evolution itself (which we can clearly see it happening around us in life) and saying that the idea of a supreme invisible being in the sky is more realistic is just stupid.[/quote]
Then you were too quick to jump in, because the guy you were so excited to make fun of was arguing against evolution being the creation of man.
Show me where this has been disputed?
Like I said, you jumped in too quick. And in the process created a straw man.
Kudos.
Evolution yes. Evolution as the beginning of man - only a theory. Belief in a theory as fact is the same as religion.
Dude - if you want to bash Christianity, or any religion for that matter - grow a nut and just come out and do it.
You are not smart enough to effectively hide behind science.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
RSGZ wrote:
Kal-El wrote:
When you say it doesn’t make sence to you, I just can not comprehend how it couldnt. Unless you believe in a ridiculus idea that we evolved from apes or dolphins or whatever, there has to be a greater being holding the strings. Who made all this? two stars making a big bang theory? Well ask yourself this, who made the two stars to collide into each other? It doesnt make sence not to believe.
LMAO! HAHAHAHA. Yes, evolution is ridiculous and Santa is real too.
You’re either very ignorant or just intellectually challenged if you can’t tell the difference between a fictional piece of writing and fact.
Evolution as it pertains to the creation of man is not a fact. It is a theory.
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Then so is gravity, electromagnetism and aerodynamics.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
…too quick to jump in…[/quote]
I was - misread that since people are always very quick to attack evolution.
Hmmm…ok. So my “religion” is based on factual evidence. Call me a skeptic.
I don’t agree with most organised “religions” - I’ve said this before and don’t hide the fact. I don’t however intentionally go out and bash them as long as they don’t bother me.
You have no idea how smart I am, lets no make this personal.
[quote]orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
RSGZ wrote:
Kal-El wrote:
When you say it doesn’t make sence to you, I just can not comprehend how it couldnt. Unless you believe in a ridiculus idea that we evolved from apes or dolphins or whatever, there has to be a greater being holding the strings. Who made all this? two stars making a big bang theory? Well ask yourself this, who made the two stars to collide into each other? It doesnt make sence not to believe.
LMAO! HAHAHAHA. Yes, evolution is ridiculous and Santa is real too.
You’re either very ignorant or just intellectually challenged if you can’t tell the difference between a fictional piece of writing and fact.
Evolution as it pertains to the creation of man is not a fact. It is a theory.
Then so is gravity, electromagnetism and aerodynamics.
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
I don’t agree with most organised “religions” - I’ve said this before and don’t hide the fact. I don’t however intentionally go out and bash them as long as they don’t bother me.[/quote]
You just did that in this thread. Seems to me your actions are in conflict with your words.
Nothing personal. I was stating a fact. I am sure you are a very bright kid.
This book was written by an atheist set out to disprove the bible and ended up becoming a christian. One more thing for me it is about a relationship with Jesus not a religion. As cliche as that sounds it is true. When you experience God on a personal level you know that you have faith in the right God. Not to mention the fact I would rather live my life believing in God and it turn out to be not true. Than living my life believing in nothing and there turns out to be a God.
[quote]Lowery38595 wrote:
Not to mention the fact I would rather live my life believing in God and it turn out to be not true. Than living my life believing in nothing and there turns out to be a God. [/quote]
There’s Pascals Wager rearing it’s ugly head again.
