[quote]baretta wrote:
How many spandex wearing wrasslin fans does it take to screw in a light bulb?
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I have to agree that wrestling fans who wear spandex are kinda strange, but I don’t think that makes up the majority of them. I mean, how many times to you see guys in spandex yelling from the audience?
[quote]SWR wrote:
Large Dave wrote:
do you think any one has stopped to think that maybe the “family emergency” was Benoit’s family being held hostage by some nutter and benoit"s suicide was in total despair of finding his wife and kid killed by said nutter? Or does the time scale not fit?
No! That would not fit into the politicians’ and media’s agenda against steroids!
Unless they can accuse the murderer of also being on steroids.[/quote]
i wonder if the chris benoit conspiracy theory will reach the 9/11 commission cover up.
[quote]JMB wrote:
This whole conversation reminds me of the quote from Max von Sydow’s character in the Woody Allen movie Hannah And Her Sisters: “Can you imagine the level of a mind that watches wrestling?”[/quote]
Woody Allen took great pains to emphasize that Von Sydow’s character was an asshole.
[quote]texasguy wrote:
SWR wrote:
Large Dave wrote:
do you think any one has stopped to think that maybe the “family emergency” was Benoit’s family being held hostage by some nutter and benoit"s suicide was in total despair of finding his wife and kid killed by said nutter? Or does the time scale not fit?
No! That would not fit into the politicians’ and media’s agenda against steroids!
Unless they can accuse the murderer of also being on steroids.
i wonder if the chris benoit conspiracy theory will reach the 9/11 commission cover up. [/quote]
You mean the Jews killed Benoit, too? What say you, Dweezil?
[quote]texasguy wrote:
SWR wrote:
Large Dave wrote:
do you think any one has stopped to think that maybe the “family emergency” was Benoit’s family being held hostage by some nutter and benoit"s suicide was in total despair of finding his wife and kid killed by said nutter? Or does the time scale not fit?
No! That would not fit into the politicians’ and media’s agenda against steroids!
Unless they can accuse the murderer of also being on steroids.
i wonder if the chris benoit conspiracy theory will reach the 9/11 commission cover up. [/quote]
LMAO @ the douche bags who can’t accept that their “hero” (a guy they only knew by turning on a black box in their homes) had serious mental problems and killed some people.
It happenes. Every day. It happened to an actual friend (re: not someone who I only knew from watching television) of mine.
Stop being morons and looking for reasons to excuse his conduct. And stop swinging from the nut sack of a murderer you only “knew” because he was on TV.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
How many of you started bitching that “Basketball is just a bunch of guys throwing a ball through a hoop. Its for children!” when Kobe was accused of raping some girl.[/quote]
Basketball isn’t staged by actors.
I don’t judge wrestling fans based on Chris Benoit. I judge wrestling fans based on wrestling fans.
Because wrestling fans are stupid hicks and the second this came out there were legions of people living in their retarded world thinking “my favorite wrestler just killed his family, how can I rationalize this?”
Maybe they didn’t use the word rationalize, it’s kind of big for most of them, but I’m sure it was some similar thought process.
Videogames are interactive and come in many different flavors. Videogames do not place you in a stadium for several hours with others who believe the South will rise again, watching jacked up actors who beat their wives perform shitty acrobatics half naked and oiled up.
I don’t know, I think some comic books have won awards. Plus there is that whole “graphic novel” thing those people seem to like which has some redeeming qualities.
I am not aware of many cartoons in which the cartoon characters are generally abusive psychopaths placating to a demographic that looks at the debut of the KFC boneless variety bucket as a monumental occasion in their life.
Mexico: The country that people don’t even have the decency to float in a raft to get away from it
Because the Japanese like tons of crazy bullshit, and they aren’t enough activities in Europe to engage their trash population other than getting trashed at soccer games so it’s a big deal to them.
[quote]Large Dave wrote:
do you think any one has stopped to think that maybe the “family emergency” was Benoit’s family being held hostage by some nutter and benoit"s suicide was in total despair of finding his wife and kid killed by said nutter? Or does the time scale not fit?[/quote]
See? The wrestling fans I paint all wrestling fans by. I don’t think anything has done more for my argument than this post just did. Fucking cretin.
[quote]Mr. Clean & Jerk wrote:
You mean the Jews killed Benoit, too? What say you, Dweezil?[/quote]
No, that wasn’t us. We did Katrina (we have a weather machine) and 9/11 though.
[quote]Dweezil wrote:
blah blah blah stuff.[/quote]
Eh. Whatevs. I like wrestling.
[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
I’m no doctor, but it seems to me one should worry about the combined effects of multiple concussions and years of anabolic steroid use (which could lead to low T levels and depression in someone who was not on steroids currently, right)?
In this case, perhaps there was a trigger in his son’s medical condition that finally threw a wrench into Benoit’s psyche – does anyone know much about “Fragile X Syndrome”?
Nothing excuses the action – but I don’t think there’s an easy explanation for the cause.[/quote]
I would be more concerned about anti-depressants, alcohol abuse and clinical depression. Anabolic steroids seem to be the nauseating scapegoat in the media and the level of stupidity it takes to ignore those other factors and then highlight “steroids” at every turn is why I don’t watch much tv to begin with. It’s a hot topic lately and apparently it will be overused until they can’t milk it for anything more.
I swear, if this were the 90’s, they would have found a way to work that into the OJ Simpson case somehow. More saddening than anything is the fact that it seems to be working on the general population. Soon, anyone who looks slightly muscular will be labeled as a negative. You’ll have to be obese to fit in and be considered “normal”.
The big story is a man allegedly went crazy and killed his whole family and then stayed with the bodies in the house for a day afterwards. I am at a loss as to how anabolics (as if HRT medication simply doesn’t exist or that society needs to be afraid of every male on it) gets blamed for this at all.
It is also a little disheartening that this discussion has been degraded to bullshit about who likes wrestling and whether they have evolved like the rest of us.
Most of us should be more concerned about what this level of spite towards anyone who looks more “masculine” than the general population is going to mean for the rest of us…that is, if most of the people here actually lift weights.
[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
And since were all about some ignorance on this thread, shouldnt you be counting your money or something?[/quote]
Oh yeah… There you go that is the way to prove a point. Or rather Dweezil proved his and you are ignorant?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
It is also a little disheartening that this discussion has been degraded to bullshit about who likes wrestling and whether they have evolved like the rest of us.
Most of us should be more concerned about what this level of spite towards anyone who looks more “masculine” than the general population is going to mean for the rest of us…that is, if most of the people here actually lift weights.[/quote]
This is bullshit. There has been hysteria about this since the mid-90s, the media has been horribly misinformed since then and no one has ever banned all steroids (Somehow I don’t think the AMA, CDC or WHO would be pleased if prednisone was outlawed).
Anabolic steroids will always be illegal, middle-aged women will always think creatine is somehow dangerous and internists who think they’re hot shit (as plenty of bad doctors do, and this group is only growing) who have absolutely no background in medical science and only the minimum in chemistry will go oh yeah steroids oh man they make you angry and shit.
No one is going to glamorize being overweight, even if there is a ‘lobbying’ group, because everyone who is severely overweight will die young.
We all need to just relax and keep on insulting people who like wrestling.
[quote]Dweezil wrote:
fightingtiger wrote:
The statement “You watch wrestling, youre a hick!” makes about as much sense as “You watch the History Channel, youre a virgin!”
If you changed that to Cartoon Network and made it just for Adult Swim you probably wouldn’t be far off the mark.
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It’s true. I love Adult Swim, and I’m mother mary. Dweezil…let it be.
[quote]Dweezil wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
How many of you started bitching that “Basketball is just a bunch of guys throwing a ball through a hoop. Its for children!” when Kobe was accused of raping some girl.
Basketball isn’t staged by actors.
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Point shaving?
[quote]Dweezil wrote:
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I am not aware of many cartoons in which the cartoon characters are generally abusive psychopaths placating to a demographic that looks at the debut of the KFC boneless variety bucket as a monumental occasion in their life.
…[/quote]
I thought you were an Adult Swim fan.
[quote]Dweezil wrote:
Mr. Clean & Jerk wrote:
You mean the Jews killed Benoit, too? What say you, Dweezil?
No, that wasn’t us. We did Katrina (we have a weather machine) and 9/11 though.[/quote]
Ha ha ha, this whole crazy thread was worth it, just for that. You’re the man.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Dweezil wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
How many of you started bitching that “Basketball is just a bunch of guys throwing a ball through a hoop. Its for children!” when Kobe was accused of raping some girl.
Basketball isn’t staged by actors.
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Point shaving?[/quote]
UNLV/DUKE?
[quote]kroby wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I just read where he strangled his wife and smothered his little boy. I’m sure he was mentally ill. If not, I hope he gets his punishment in Hell.
It is my understanding that if he believed that Jesus is the Son of God and died for all “our” sins, he goes to heaven. That there were bibles next to his wife and son make me think he was a believer.
And if Jesus died for “our” sins, HH, then who are you to judge? Isn’t this your faith? Do you presume to trump Jesus as judge, jury and executioner? Interesting.[/quote]
i don’t think jesus prevents anyone from stating their opinion. free will is the central message of the bible anyways. options (according to jesus and his long dead followers) are given, what you do is up to you.
anyways, i like your avatar. are you representing anything specific with it?
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
texasguy wrote:
SWR wrote:
Large Dave wrote:
do you think any one has stopped to think that maybe the “family emergency” was Benoit’s family being held hostage by some nutter and benoit"s suicide was in total despair of finding his wife and kid killed by said nutter? Or does the time scale not fit?
No! That would not fit into the politicians’ and media’s agenda against steroids!
Unless they can accuse the murderer of also being on steroids.
i wonder if the chris benoit conspiracy theory will reach the 9/11 commission cover up.
LMAO @ the douche bags who can’t accept that their “hero” (a guy they only knew by turning on a black box in their homes) had serious mental problems and killed some people.
It happenes. Every day. It happened to an actual friend (re: not someone who I only knew from watching television) of mine.
Stop being morons and looking for reasons to excuse his conduct. And stop swinging from the nut sack of a murderer you only “knew” because he was on TV.[/quote]
i’ve never understood how a fake personality, tight spandex underwear, fake story lines and fake fights make anyone a hero.
they don’t do anything but memorize a handful of cheesy lines, stage holds and throws and wear gay costumes.
it’s like idolizing brad pitt in fight club. he isn’t really tyler durden.
he is brad pitt and probably has a totally different personality in real life than in any of his character roles.
The friends that I have who are wrestling fans are both very intelligent and outgoing guys (My one friend recently got hired at WWE headquarters as a seasonal writer if things go good permanent). I don’t understand the pot shots every single second based on either a certain cross section or one’s perceived cross section of the fan base.
I still don’t understand why people are still ranting on how Wrestling is fake, as if it is some secret as if it is not part of the show itself. I agree/disagree once again with texasguy, actors are merely just puppets as well.
Correct they act in movies and they may be totally different as you say, this doesn’t stop people from seeing fake movies based on completely fake and unbelievable circumstances. A drunken Pirate who summons old spirits, a movie about giant robotic transformers coming to Earth to battle it out. Nor does this stop people from idolizing them and talking about them nonstop (gossip).
Wrestling fans know it’s fake it’s entertainment. I find many of the storylines…more so from the recent past very funny and entertaining, and many personalities are indeed charismatic. How is this different than any other form of entertainment, I would like to hear it from the very elitist here.
You think it’s childish or ridiculous, or violent? Well as we all know horror movies about a talking clown killing people is obviously the Creme de la Creme of film. It’s escapist fun and also history based. Wrestling fans on average have incredible memories of the entertainment sport and are smarter than the storylines written.
I don’t harbor any anger as I have stereotyped, though usually vastly true certain hobbies and activities of many, but when this happens on a wide scale usually there is partial misunderstanding as well. I can agree there are many annoying wrestling fans who are asocial and/or problematic…as there are gamers, and other subgroups. But hey it’s also convenient to blame the big 3, Video Games , Wrestling, and Guns.
P.S. Can we quell all of the “it’s so gay, oh my god tight spandex super gay, gay, gay, gay”. That is truly a great barometer on what is morally ok or not (I know many of you don’t mind gay females if attractive eh?)? I swear some “straight” guys can find homosexuality in anything. I would love to see the connection of smacking a guy over the head with a chair with homosexual sex.
About Chris Benoit Booker T was recently interviewed about it and had a classy response…oh wait these guys have a 40 IQ and no real personalities or skills outside of wrestling…sorry about that.
[quote]texasguy wrote:
anyways, i like your avatar. are you representing anything specific with it?
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a genre of sci fi books in the war torn years of millenium 40,000 A.D.
[quote]Steve4192 wrote:
Dweezil wrote:
Anyone who doesn’t grow out of wrestling is either a hick or suffering from some kind of lapse in their emotional development that causes them to find comfort in slabs of man-meat hugging and storylines that are fall somewhere between something written by a 14 year old on deviantart and second tier soap operas on Telemundo.
http://ww3.ics.adp.com/streetlink_data/dirWWE/annual/HTML1/wwe_ar2006_0025.htm
Average North American attendance: 4,990
Average North American ticket price: $37.34
Average International attendance: 9,160
Average International ticket price: $ 69.18
Strange.
For a ‘sport’ that only appeals to inbred yokels and trailer trash, they sure do seem to do pretty well with the cosmopolitan and sophisticated European crowd.[/quote]
They probably sport similar stats for American Idol…doesn’t mean it’s quality entertainment.