[quote]LoneLobo wrote:
And the point still stands, a 2 year old should not be “leaning out”, and these foods are going to produce satiety faster than a non-weight control oriented diet would. [/quote]
Kids go thru growth spurts…and when they do, they tend to get leaner. When they are infants, they have allot of babyfat, as they enter the toddler age, they lean out. There’s nothing wrong with that.
My kids eat until they are full.
We don’t make them “clean their plates” and we don’t allow them junkfood.
[quote]LoneLobo wrote:
maryjane wrote:
I’m sorry that you believe filling your child with a bunch of empty calories and loaded sugar is “a part of childhood”–it’s not.
Did you just paraphrase and then quote something I never said? You goin schizo on me?
Also, I love how everyone’s references were to all clean foods, nothing processed, fruits and veggies, etc., then you get defensive and suddenly they eat cheerios, whole milk, sugared yogurts, sugared oatmeal, and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. What you’re trying to say is you don’t feed your kids cheetohs. If so, congratulations. Kids don’t need coke, and they don’t need potato chips. That’s not the same, however, as your child eating the T-Dawg diet. The sample diet looks my mother’s, who is the world’s biggest fan of the food pyramid.
And the point still stands, a 2 year old should not be “leaning out”, and these foods are going to produce satiety faster than a non-weight control oriented diet would. [/quote]
Sorry, generalizing with you–didn’t mean ‘you’ specifically. My child isn’t lean (he’s still got the buddah belly to prove it)–he just eats healthy!
Lonelobo, I definitely think your wrong. Sounds to me like these kids are getting plenty of needed calories for growth and health and exceeedingly more nutrition than the average kid. No one is being defensive. They’re explaining that they don’t let their kids eat certain foods at all, provide others as treats, while the bulk comes from natural, healthy, unprocessed foods.
My son is 16 months old and already has a better diet then 90% of americans. He has tasted sugars but once on his 1st birthday. He eats anywhere from 2 to 4 oz of lean meat or 2 eggs at every meal. Veggies and fruit are also present at every meal. He seems to rather have the healthy foods then others, for example he prefers whole wheat pasta to regular pasta. His only down fall might be his mother or grandmother. They must be constantly informed of what he should be eating and why.
I grew up in a family were my parents thought one thing on your plate was a meal, no veggies, no fruits, and I dont want the same for my son. My son has been sick but one time in his young life. Where I hear my sister’s or co-worker’s kids are constantly sick.
Every parent wants what is best for there child and these days you need to step in a get your hands dirty and mold your child.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Lonelobo, I definitely think your wrong. Sounds to me like these kids are getting plenty of needed calories for growth and health and exceeedingly more nutrition than the average kid. No one is being defensive. They’re explaining that they don’t let their kids eat certain foods at all, provide others as treats, while the bulk comes from natural, healthy, unprocessed foods. [/quote]
DING DING DING!!! You got it. I know too many kids that are already screwed in their diet because their parents eat like shit. Since their parents eat like shit, so do they. I can’t do that to my son. To me, feeding your kids only crap is like a form of abuse.
I am realistic, he will choose his own career. I gave my son a guitar for xmas too. Do I think he’ll be a rock star? nope. He’ll choose his path…my job as a parent is to guide him, not force him.[/quote]
Ha ha my son got a guitar too. Mainly so he’ll leave mine alone.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I personally don’t see anything wrong with the occasional Mc Donald’s visit for a kid or anyone else for that matter. I think people who think in extremes can potentially do more damage long term than good. [/quote]
I don’t eat food like McDonalds, and neither do my children. I also wouldn’t let them smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol. Does that make me extreme?
[quote]FMF wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I personally don’t see anything wrong with the occasional Mc Donald’s visit for a kid or anyone else for that matter. I think people who think in extremes can potentially do more damage long term than good.
I don’t eat food like McDonalds, and neither do my children. I also wouldn’t let them smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol. Does that make me extreme?[/quote]
The occasional burger from McD’s isn’t gonna hurt. It’s when it is the majority of one’s diet that it becomes a problem.
I am going to introduce my four and a half month old to solid food pretty soon. My friend made me a whole bunch of organic baby food (fruits and veggies). I have heard that it is best to start introducing grains and then veggies and then fruit. Is this what you guys did? If so, what kind of grains did you choose? Do you have to use the packaged infant cereals, or can I feed him just plain cooked grains? Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks!
I disagree. The point of eating is not satisfaction, but providing our bodies with nutrients. McD’s hamburgers are full of anything but nutrients.
I do give my kids “treats.” Chocolate, fruits, muffins, fish oil (they think is a treat), etc. It is all organic and has at least some nutritional value.
[quote]FMF wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I personally don’t see anything wrong with the occasional Mc Donald’s visit for a kid or anyone else for that matter. I think people who think in extremes can potentially do more damage long term than good.
I don’t eat food like McDonalds, and neither do my children. I also wouldn’t let them smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol. Does that make me extreme?[/quote]
Did you just equate a hamburger with a cigarette? You have allowed yourself to believe that a trip to Mc Donald’s as an occasional treat is the same as someone giving a kid alcohol? Exactly how “healthy” are you? How “fit” are you? How “strong” are you? Yes, your comment was extreme, if not clueless. Hell, it is your kid. Do what you want to do. However, understand that being that extreme to the point of teaching that hamburgers are like cigarettes may just cause a huge rebellion once they learn that food in moderation will not kill them.
My parents did not allow a bunch of junk food in the house. Even if we went Trick or Treating, we could choose a couple of individually wrapped small items and the rest we assumed went with my mom to school for her kids in the classroom. Now that I think of it, I think she just threw it away, but we thought we were helping her kids out at the time. Mc Donald’s was something I considered a “specialty” because it was rare in occurance. Now that I am grown, I know for sure that occasionally eating a hamburger will not kill you. It is only if you base your entire diet around it. My parents taught me how to eat healthy and also what “moderation” was. You seem to throw out the concept of “moderation” and just tell them the food is “bad”. How is it “bad”? Could you list for me the damage caused by a 6 year old eating a hamburger in a Happy Meal once every two months? Please be specific.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Could you list for me the damage caused by a 6 year old eating a hamburger in a Happy Meal once every two months?[/quote]
Nothing! Anybody that says otherwise is wrong.
One thing I HAVE seen is that overbearing parents who forbid their kids eating certain things had a negative impact on the person. Because they couldnt eat anything like McDonalds, candy, etc. at any point developed a binge eating disorder. There friends would go from time to time yet they couldnt. THAT makes a child want it more. They want what they cant have. So as they get older they are able to get it themselves but still feel “bad” when they eat it so the become closet binge eaters. I’ve seen it first hand.
Advice: Let the kids have McDonalds once in a while along with candy and other crap. Whats better, some crap every now and then or a lifetime eating disorder? I think I’ll choose the little crap here and there…
A skating buddy of mine had so restricted her children’s exposure to anything not perfectly vegan and organic that they had a lot of trouble when they started school. Using ordinary soap irritated their skin. Many foods the school provided for them made the kids sick. And so on. They were social pariahs. Who wants to play with a kid who breaks out in a rash from soap? It kinda makes you wonder how often they wash…
Here’s to all the parents who believe that controlled exposure to a wide variety of foods, activities and people is a good way to raise a kid.
Yes, I do believe eating at McDonald’s is just as unhealthy as for them as smoking or drinking. My children are not restricted to a vegan diet, but everything in my house is organic. They eat grass-fed beef, buffalo, ostrich, chicken, turkey, fish, pizza, chocolate, fruits and veggies, cereal with goat milk, etc. They pretty much eat whatever they want whenever they want. They also have a protein shake once in a while. They are very happy eating the foods they do.
I have been working in the fitness industry for over 15 years, so I am very healthy. I’m not as strong as I used to be. As a single parent, when I have free time I would rather play tennis than lift.
Gotta run for now.
I heard that richard sandrak could bench three times his bodyweight when he was about 8.
and Prof. X: are you unemployed? You seem to have WAAAAY too much time to compose these huge posts just when someone disagrees with you and you need to keep up your ‘image’ that you think you have on here as always being right.
(Something else you have to much of: half naked bodybuilder pictures on your hard-drive.)
Anyone ever heard of the hygiene hypothesis? Basically it says that an overly hygenic enviroment early on in life predisposes a person to atopic diseases, like asthma, hay fever, atopic sensitization, etc.
Apply this ‘concept’ to your kids’ eating habits.
I agree with the poster that made the remark about developing an eating disorder, like anything in life everyone wants what they can’t have, (I’ve also seen it happen before).
For those that don’t have a gym home are you going to buy junior a gym membership when he turns 6?..
…cause I bet a kid who’s sent to the woods to help his father get wood for the winter would be in just as good shape, and probably better if he/she helps around the house as well- shoveling, helping fix the car, shingle the roof. There’s always some work for a kid to do, saves you time and money, getting them into clubs and what not, like karate, which is retarded for a kid, all they get out of it is exercise, because lets face it, no matter how long a kid has been in a self defense class they’re still a joke to anyone a year or more older.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
FMF wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I personally don’t see anything wrong with the occasional Mc Donald’s visit for a kid or anyone else for that matter. I think people who think in extremes can potentially do more damage long term than good.
I don’t eat food like McDonalds, and neither do my children. I also wouldn’t let them smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol. Does that make me extreme?
Did you just equate a hamburger with a cigarette? You have allowed yourself to believe that a trip to Mc Donald’s as an occasional treat is the same as someone giving a kid alcohol? Exactly how “healthy” are you? How “fit” are you? How “strong” are you? Yes, your comment was extreme, if not clueless. Hell, it is your kid. Do what you want to do. However, understand that being that extreme to the point of teaching that hamburgers are like cigarettes may just cause a huge rebellion once they learn that food in moderation will not kill them.
My parents did not allow a bunch of junk food in the house. Even if we went Trick or Treating, we could choose a couple of individually wrapped small items and the rest we assumed went with my mom to school for her kids in the classroom. Now that I think of it, I think she just threw it away, but we thought we were helping her kids out at the time. Mc Donald’s was something I considered a “specialty” because it was rare in occurance. Now that I am grown, I know for sure that occasionally eating a hamburger will not kill you. It is only if you base your entire diet around it. My parents taught me how to eat healthy and also what “moderation” was. You seem to throw out the concept of “moderation” and just tell them the food is “bad”. How is it “bad”? Could you list for me the damage caused by a 6 year old eating a hamburger in a Happy Meal once every two months? Please be specific. [/quote]
In the same vein, list the damaged caused by drinking a beer every two months, or taking one hit of a little ganj. Not disagreeing with Prof., just stating that moderation in everything is key.
[quote]Kim Jong-il wrote:
and Prof. X: are you unemployed? You seem to have WAAAAY too much time to compose these huge posts just when someone disagrees with you and you need to keep up your ‘image’ that you think you have on here as always being right.
(Something else you have to much of: half naked bodybuilder pictures on your hard-drive.)[/quote]
Uh, do you have a crush on the Prof, because you give him a lot of attention every time he posts. Or is it that you don’t have a job and your hobby is to harrass someone on the net that you wouldn’t in real life? Either way, you have issues.
[quote]StrongMan wrote:
I have a 3 year old son. Since he’s been off the boob-juice (nursed for 13 months), he’s been eating like me.
Basically the t-dawg 2.0 diet and he eats like a horse. (I think he’s orally fixed, it’s a good thing he doesn’t get fed what most kids eat these days)
What I have seen in his physique is AMAZING. For a 3 year old kid, he’s got no body-fat, HUGE QUADS/HAMS, nice bis/tris, a six pack, etc.
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It just hit me, i wonder if you have heardd of MRL mice. if not its a breed of mice that havea genetic disorder, nothing bad except the mice have myostatine blackage which causes them to produce muscle even without physical training and what not.
Here is a new born baby that has the genetic disorder 100%
here is a quote from a man that actually has the mutation and his father:
“Not really adding much to the conversation, but my father and I both have the “superbaby” mutation. severe myostatin deficiency. My father’s bones are near unbreakable and he became locally famous after lifting a minivan.
His strength is comparable to between 3 and 5 normal men and his strength peaked at about the age of 40. His brother Joseph is suspected of having the mutation aswell.
Our muscles grow at incredible rates, but dont grow much larger. The muscle fibre packs tightly- so tightly in fact that they tear under their own strength, causing us to suddenly collapse for no apparrent reason with massive muscle tears.
We have body fat of >1% and abnormal muscle definition.
You talk of this german baby as if he is the strongest of us.my father once jokingly held a washing machine in his outstretched arm, obviously considerably more than this 10 lb from the 4 yr old.”