I don’t play online games so I don’t have the inside scoop on things. I know I would not have done that, deleted the characters, and I really would not have videoed the incident. But I wasn’t so horrified and outraged as some of you guys seem to have been. So it was interesting to read the responses from the guys that play the games. Now, if this was bullfighting, well let me tell yah!
For all you guys saying she should know he was like that, shouldn’t he have known she is like that? I doubt this is the first time she’s done something like that.
I do think the mom was right in cutting freaky kid off. That was ridiculous.
If you folks don’t think this is like a drug addition, (although addictions even non substance addictions, still elicit a physical response), then couldn’t this be like a gambling addiction or a porn addiction?
Just a question about videoing things, I just see it with everything. People today seem to crave fame and attention and Youtube feeds this want for them. Everything gets videoed now. So is what she did so unusual or is it just the way things are now?
I don’t play online games so I don’t have the inside scoop on things. I know I would not have done that, deleted the characters, and I really would not have videoed the incident. But I wasn’t so horrified and outraged as some of you guys seem to have been. So it was interesting to read the responses from the guys that play the games. Now, if this was bullfighting, well let me tell yah!
For all you guys saying she should know he was like that, shouldn’t he have known she is like that? I doubt this is the first time she’s done something like that.
I do think the mom was right in cutting freaky kid off. That was ridiculous.
If you folks don’t think this is like a drug addition, (although addictions even non substance addictions, still elicit a physical response), then couldn’t this be like a gambling addiction or a porn addiction?
Just a question about videoing things, I just see it with everything. People today seem to crave fame and attention and Youtube feeds this want for them. Everything gets videoed now. So is what she did so unusual or is it just the way things are now?
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Not really, a gambling addiction is going to have a big impact financially on you and or your family if you have one. A porn addiction is going to possibly have an impact on your finances but it will also have more of an impact with relationships because there are a lot of women who view it as a form of cheating.
However, someone with a porn addiction most likley either does not have a GF or wife, or if they do it’s because of a severe lack of regular sex. So the greater issues are not really the porn addiction, but the underlying reasons.
WOW is a potentially money SAVING hobby. I know my old online MMORPG cost 5 bucks a month, I could play it unlimited. So while I was doing that, I was not going out to the bars with my buddies, which I would have done if I wasn’t really into my game. Sure I still went out on weekends, but monday through Thursday I decided I’m going to save my money and not go spend 40-60 bucks a night at the bar.
Lets just look at the monetary aspect for a second. If I were to have gone out 3 days per week and spent 40 bucks doing whatever, even if it was playing golf, bowling, out to the bar, going to a movie and some food. Pretty much you can expect to spend $40 to entertain yourself. So 3 times per week, 52 weeks for 4 years is $24,960. Thats huge for a 20 year old.
Also if you want to get into the social aspect of it, porn and gambling rank WAY higher on the “socially unacceptable” scale. I mean we let our kids play video games when they are 5, we might let them gamble a little when they are teens, amongst eachother, like a game of poker or something, but it’s really not till High School that they are exposed to gambling and probably porn.
I mean do they have gaming addict meetings? No I have never heard of any. And just like anything I can go back and find a handful of people who got addiccted to them and it ruined thier lives. But if there was no WOW those people would have destroyed themselves with something else.
Video Gaming is a legitamate and I would say useful pastime. Through my experience growing up as a “gamer” I have advanced control over computers and other such systems. Kids these days are flying predator drones for the army. They are proficient because they have been playing games all thier lives, it really doesn’t mater if there is a real plane on the other end or a computer representation of one.
The interface is what is critical in that situation, and kids who grew up on games will interface with that technology effortlessly. As our world becomes more and more automated, it is going to be the gamers who have an edge, they will be able to interface with more complex devices and master thier use faster and at a higher level than someone who can’t get past the first level on guitar hero.
Just look at the website you are looking at while you are reading this. The people who build and maintain this got thier start behind the controller of a video game. I literally do not know one person who has a programming background, and IT background or any similar computer heavy industry who doesn’t or hasn’t had at least a modest video gaming background.
I mean the assumptions flying around are so damn funny, everyone instantly thinks this kid is a loser who works at Mcdonalds during the day and games non stop the rest of his existance. For all we know he could be a high level programmer, IT support for a company, a network manager, a web designer, etc…
I don’t play online games so I don’t have the inside scoop on things. I know I would not have done that, deleted the characters, and I really would not have videoed the incident. But I wasn’t so horrified and outraged as some of you guys seem to have been. So it was interesting to read the responses from the guys that play the games. Now, if this was bullfighting, well let me tell yah!
For all you guys saying she should know he was like that, shouldn’t he have known she is like that? I doubt this is the first time she’s done something like that.
I do think the mom was right in cutting freaky kid off. That was ridiculous.
If you folks don’t think this is like a drug addition, (although addictions even non substance addictions, still elicit a physical response), then couldn’t this be like a gambling addiction or a porn addiction?
Just a question about videoing things, I just see it with everything. People today seem to crave fame and attention and Youtube feeds this want for them. Everything gets videoed now. So is what she did so unusual or is it just the way things are now?
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Not really, a gambling addiction is going to have a big impact financially on you and or your family if you have one. A porn addiction is going to possibly have an impact on your finances but it will also have more of an impact with relationships because there are a lot of women who view it as a form of cheating. However, someone with a porn addiction most likley either does not have a GF or wife, or if they do it’s because of a severe lack of regular sex. So the greater issues are not really the porn addiction, but the underlying reasons.
WOW is a potentially money SAVING hobby. I know my old online MMORPG cost 5 bucks a month, I could play it unlimited. So while I was doing that, I was not going out to the bars with my buddies, which I would have done if I wasn’t really into my game. Sure I still went out on weekends, but monday through Thursday I decided I’m going to save my money and not go spend 40-60 bucks a night at the bar.
Lets just look at the monetary aspect for a second. If I were to have gone out 3 days per week and spent 40 bucks doing whatever, even if it was playing golf, bowling, out to the bar, going to a movie and some food. Pretty much you can expect to spend $40 to entertain yourself. So 3 times per week, 52 weeks for 4 years is $24,960. Thats huge for a 20 year old.
Also if you want to get into the social aspect of it, porn and gambling rank WAY higher on the “socially unacceptable” scale. I mean we let our kids play video games when they are 5, we might let them gamble a little when they are teens, amongst eachother, like a game of poker or something, but it’s really not till High School that they are exposed to gambling and probably porn. I mean do they have gaming addict meetings? No I have never heard of any. And just like anything I can go back and find a handful of people who got addiccted to them and it ruined thier lives. But if there was no WOW those people would have destroyed themselves with something else.
Video Gaming is a legitamate and I would say useful pastime. Through my experience growing up as a “gamer” I have advanced control over computers and other such systems. Kids these days are flying predator drones for the army. They are proficient because they have been playing games all thier lives, it really doesn’t mater if there is a real plane on the other end or a computer representation of one. The interface is what is critical in that situation, and kids who grew up on games will interface with that technology effortlessly. As our world becomes more and more automated, it is going to be the gamers who have an edge, they will be able to interface with more complex devices and master thier use faster and at a higher level than someone who can’t get past the first level on guitar hero.
Just look at the website you are looking at while you are reading this. The people who build and maintain this got thier start behind the controller of a video game. I literally do not know one person who has a programming background, and IT background or any similar computer heavy industry who doesn’t or hasn’t had at least a modest video gaming background. I mean the assumptions flying around are so damn funny, everyone instantly thinks this kid is a loser who works at Mcdonalds during the day and games non stop the rest of his existance. For all we know he could be a high level programmer, IT support for a company, a network manager, a web designer, etc…
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Excerpts from the msnbc article
" . . . . A leading council of the nationâ??s largest doctorsâ?? group wants to have this behavior officially classified as a psychiatric disorder, to raise awareness and enable sufferers to get insurance coverage for treatment. . . ."
" . . . Up to 90 percent of American youngsters play video games and as many as 15 percent of them â?? more than 5 million kids â?? may be addicted, according to data cited in the AMA councilâ??s report.
Joyce Protopapas of Frisco, Texas, said her 17-year-old son, Michael, was a video addict. Over nearly two years, video and Internet games transformed him from an outgoing, academically gifted teen into a reclusive manipulator who flunked two 10th grade classes and spent several hours day and night playing a popular online video game called World of Warcraft. . . ."
I guess the point is anything can be addictive. Some things are more detrimental than others. I was reading that some teens are suffering depression if they don’t receive as many texts as their friends or don’t have as many numbers stored in their cell phones.
Video games can definitely be an addiction, while they may not have as serious of consequences as drugs/porn/gambling, they can without question still be addicting. The social aspect of the addiction can be much the same as any other addiction- less time with friends, not happy, very tense/moody etc.
I’m to lazy to link it right now, but if you google video game rehabs or something like it, they have them in Asia. I wouldnt go as far as saying WoW addicts are on the same boat as alcoholics, but some people just get sucked in really quickly. I did a wilderness program after getting in some legal trouble right after sophomore year of HS and one of the kids there was at this place for WoW.
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
Video games can definitely be an addiction, while they may not have as serious of consequences as drugs/porn/gambling, they can without question still be addicting. The social aspect of the addiction can be much the same as any other addiction- less time with friends, not happy, very tense/moody etc.
I’m to lazy to link it right now, but if you google video game rehabs or something like it, they have them in Asia. I wouldnt go as far as saying WoW addicts are on the same boat as alcoholics, but some people just get sucked in really quickly. I did a wilderness program after getting in some legal trouble right after sophomore year of HS and one of the kids there was at this place for WoW. [/quote]
Jail for couple whose baby died while they raised online child
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
Video games can definitely be an addiction, while they may not have as serious of consequences as drugs/porn/gambling, they can without question still be addicting. The social aspect of the addiction can be much the same as any other addiction- less time with friends, not happy, very tense/moody etc.
I’m to lazy to link it right now, but if you google video game rehabs or something like it, they have them in Asia. I wouldnt go as far as saying WoW addicts are on the same boat as alcoholics, but some people just get sucked in really quickly. I did a wilderness program after getting in some legal trouble right after sophomore year of HS and one of the kids there was at this place for WoW. [/quote]
Jail for couple whose baby died while they raised online child
addicted to their video game
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Shit, thats crazy. I read somewhere (I think ~2 years ago) about maybe 2 or 3 cases of people playing online for such long times they died. Lack of water or something.
[quote]andrew_live wrote:
original WoW guy, new WoW guy…that little bitch…they all need to be dragged out into the woods and disemboweled with a wooden cooking spoon.[/quote]
“I really love listening to your little piss ant soldiers trying to talk tough. They make me laugh. If Matrix was here, he’d laugh too.”
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
Video games can definitely be an addiction, while they may not have as serious of consequences as drugs/porn/gambling, they can without question still be addicting. The social aspect of the addiction can be much the same as any other addiction- less time with friends, not happy, very tense/moody etc.
I’m to lazy to link it right now, but if you google video game rehabs or something like it, they have them in Asia. I wouldnt go as far as saying WoW addicts are on the same boat as alcoholics, but some people just get sucked in really quickly. I did a wilderness program after getting in some legal trouble right after sophomore year of HS and one of the kids there was at this place for WoW. [/quote]
Jail for couple whose baby died while they raised online child
addicted to their video game
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Shit, thats crazy. I read somewhere (I think ~2 years ago) about maybe 2 or 3 cases of people playing online for such long times they died. Lack of water or something. [/quote]
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
Video games can definitely be an addiction, while they may not have as serious of consequences as drugs/porn/gambling, they can without question still be addicting. The social aspect of the addiction can be much the same as any other addiction- less time with friends, not happy, very tense/moody etc.
I’m to lazy to link it right now, but if you google video game rehabs or something like it, they have them in Asia. I wouldnt go as far as saying WoW addicts are on the same boat as alcoholics, but some people just get sucked in really quickly. I did a wilderness program after getting in some legal trouble right after sophomore year of HS and one of the kids there was at this place for WoW. [/quote]
Jail for couple whose baby died while they raised online child
addicted to their video game
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people like that should’ve died at birth. Its a shame natural selection can no longer take its proper course in society. Sounds kinda heartless i know, but fuck, How do you accomplish something like that?! Jeez, people are so bloody retarded…
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
Video games can definitely be an addiction, while they may not have as serious of consequences as drugs/porn/gambling, they can without question still be addicting. The social aspect of the addiction can be much the same as any other addiction- less time with friends, not happy, very tense/moody etc.
I’m to lazy to link it right now, but if you google video game rehabs or something like it, they have them in Asia. I wouldnt go as far as saying WoW addicts are on the same boat as alcoholics, but some people just get sucked in really quickly. I did a wilderness program after getting in some legal trouble right after sophomore year of HS and one of the kids there was at this place for WoW. [/quote]
Jail for couple whose baby died while they raised online child
addicted to their video game
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Shit, thats crazy. I read somewhere (I think ~2 years ago) about maybe 2 or 3 cases of people playing online for such long times they died. Lack of water or something. [/quote]
In all fairness, they respawned about 10 seconds later. All are doing fine now.
I remember reading that in the Netherlands, a bunch of kids were found guilty of theft when they’d forced another kid to transfer all his Runescape items to their accounts… and the person who posted OP’s video is from the Netherlands. If the video isn’t fake (and this volkomenkut has anything to do with the GF in the vid), this could get interesting.
EDIT: Come to think of it, leaving your WoW on while going to the store, by car I might add, to buy some smokes, giving your WoW password to your GF who considers it a stupid game, freaking out and punching a fairly expensive piece of electronics for which you just happen to have a spare handy… that spells fake to me. That, and the fact that the chick somehow managed to film all of this without him noticing and busting the camera up.
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
Video games can definitely be an addiction, while they may not have as serious of consequences as drugs/porn/gambling, they can without question still be addicting. The social aspect of the addiction can be much the same as any other addiction- less time with friends, not happy, very tense/moody etc.
I’m to lazy to link it right now, but if you google video game rehabs or something like it, they have them in Asia. I wouldnt go as far as saying WoW addicts are on the same boat as alcoholics, but some people just get sucked in really quickly. I did a wilderness program after getting in some legal trouble right after sophomore year of HS and one of the kids there was at this place for WoW. [/quote]
Jail for couple whose baby died while they raised online child
Child dies while parents leave him in car and go shopping:
Another:
I’m sure there’s a few more like including babies dieing while the parents are having sex int the other room. It’s not the activity that’s at fault here it’s the idiots the don’t give a fuck about their family.
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
Video games can definitely be an addiction, while they may not have as serious of consequences as drugs/porn/gambling, they can without question still be addicting. The social aspect of the addiction can be much the same as any other addiction- less time with friends, not happy, very tense/moody etc.
I’m to lazy to link it right now, but if you google video game rehabs or something like it, they have them in Asia. I wouldnt go as far as saying WoW addicts are on the same boat as alcoholics, but some people just get sucked in really quickly. I did a wilderness program after getting in some legal trouble right after sophomore year of HS and one of the kids there was at this place for WoW. [/quote]
Jail for couple whose baby died while they raised online child
Child dies while parents leave him in car and go shopping:
Another:
I’m sure there’s a few more like including babies dieing while the parents are having sex int the other room. It’s not the activity that’s at fault here it’s the idiots the don’t give a fuck about their family. [/quote]
yah, but this thread is about video games, maybe we can keep it on point or start another thread about neglect? I am all for that.
Or we could start a thread about the “fame addiction” of a culture that wants everything on Youtube.
But keeping to the subject is always good in a discussion.
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
Video games can definitely be an addiction, while they may not have as serious of consequences as drugs/porn/gambling, they can without question still be addicting. The social aspect of the addiction can be much the same as any other addiction- less time with friends, not happy, very tense/moody etc.
I’m to lazy to link it right now, but if you google video game rehabs or something like it, they have them in Asia. I wouldnt go as far as saying WoW addicts are on the same boat as alcoholics, but some people just get sucked in really quickly. I did a wilderness program after getting in some legal trouble right after sophomore year of HS and one of the kids there was at this place for WoW. [/quote]
Jail for couple whose baby died while they raised online child
Child dies while parents leave him in car and go shopping:
Another:
I’m sure there’s a few more like including babies dieing while the parents are having sex int the other room. It’s not the activity that’s at fault here it’s the idiots the don’t give a fuck about their family. [/quote]
yah, but this thread is about video games, maybe we can keep it on point or start another thread about neglect? I am all for that.
Or we could start a thread about the “fame addiction” of a culture that wants everything on Youtube.
But keeping to the subject is always good in a discussion.
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It’s my understanding you were blaming game addiction for the death of the child in that link. If not then you are the one who took the subject off topic. I’m blaming neglect. If it wasn’t video games, it might have been something else. Either way, I have a hard time believing they truly gave a fuck about there kid. I posted those links to show how easy it is to put a negative light on any hobby or activity. If you think it’s off topic, so be it.
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
Video games can definitely be an addiction, while they may not have as serious of consequences as drugs/porn/gambling, they can without question still be addicting. The social aspect of the addiction can be much the same as any other addiction- less time with friends, not happy, very tense/moody etc.
I’m to lazy to link it right now, but if you google video game rehabs or something like it, they have them in Asia. I wouldnt go as far as saying WoW addicts are on the same boat as alcoholics, but some people just get sucked in really quickly. I did a wilderness program after getting in some legal trouble right after sophomore year of HS and one of the kids there was at this place for WoW. [/quote]
Jail for couple whose baby died while they raised online child
Child dies while parents leave him in car and go shopping:
Another:
I’m sure there’s a few more like including babies dieing while the parents are having sex int the other room. It’s not the activity that’s at fault here it’s the idiots the don’t give a fuck about their family. [/quote]
yah, but this thread is about video games, maybe we can keep it on point or start another thread about neglect? I am all for that.
Or we could start a thread about the “fame addiction” of a culture that wants everything on Youtube.
But keeping to the subject is always good in a discussion.
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It’s my understanding you were blaming game addiction for the death of the child in that link. If not then you are the one who took the subject off topic. I’m blaming neglect. If it wasn’t video games, it might have been something else. Either way, I have a hard time believing they truly gave a fuck about there kid. I posted those links to show how easy it is to put a negative light on any hobby or activity. If you think it’s off topic, so be it.
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Yah, I am blaming the addiction to the game as a reason for the neglect. Without that game in that situation there would not have been that neglect to cause the death of that child.
completely on point.
What might of been, wasn’t.
If you want a different thread about neglect and some of the causes for it, then start one.
Addiction to the video game caused the neglect of that baby.
EDIT: Come to think of it, leaving your WoW on while going to the store, by car I might add, to buy some smokes, giving your WoW password to your GF who considers it a stupid game, freaking out and punching a fairly expensive piece of electronics for which you just happen to have a spare handy… that spells fake to me. That, and the fact that the chick somehow managed to film all of this without him noticing and busting the camera up.[/quote]
You’re not the 1st person in this thread that assumed he gave her his password, There’s more than one way to get a password. Installing a key logger or just plain old looking over his shoulder enough times while he types it in is pretty simple.
EDIT: Come to think of it, leaving your WoW on while going to the store, by car I might add, to buy some smokes, giving your WoW password to your GF who considers it a stupid game, freaking out and punching a fairly expensive piece of electronics for which you just happen to have a spare handy… that spells fake to me. That, and the fact that the chick somehow managed to film all of this without him noticing and busting the camera up.[/quote]
You’re not the 1st person in this thread that assumed he gave her his password, There’s more than one way to get a password. Installing a key logger or just plain old looking over his shoulder enough times while he types it in is pretty simple. [/quote]
doesn’t mean that you are assuming he didn’t give her the password?