[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
You guys know orion by now, he’s a foreign ingrate who despises the US. Nothing new here.[/quote]
Well, you know Zeb by now, when in doubt attack the messenger.
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I just pointed out what everyone already knows. You hate America.
Dick Cheney, war criminal?
Well if General Ante Gotovino is guilty while taking part in operation desert storm, then why wouldnt Dick Cheney also be guilty??
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edit: “operation storm”. Not “operation desert storm”.
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[quote]Sloth wrote:
If he’s guilty of having anyone tortured, put him on trial. Here. Our laws, not yours. And I don’t want to ever hear you, a supporter of the ‘choice’ to execute an untold number of human lives out of sight and in the womb, pretending to have the moral high ground. Your support of murder is no less.[/quote]
Well, abortion is legal, torture is not.
Also, as it happens, if someone is not prosecuted for war crimes or torture in his own country other nations are obligated to start a trial.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
You guys know orion by now, he’s a foreign ingrate who despises the US. Nothing new here.[/quote]
Well, you know Zeb by now, when in doubt attack the messenger.
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I just pointed out what everyone already knows. You hate America. [/quote]
Well, after a few years or so you could finally point out what America I hate?
The people?
The country?
The government?
Because your accusation has become quite stale, given that you seem to be unable to separate those three.
Disclaimer: I might be slightly suspicious when it comes to New Jersey.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
If it was torture when the Japanese did it to US soldiers and they were killed for it, it is torture now.
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There was a time when rape could result in capital punishment in the US.
I guess standards can change.
Imagine that.[/quote]
Oh yes and its so convenient when you can change them when you just got caught raping someone.
Of course, millions of useful idiots that cheer you on and defend you while you anally pile drive your victim might be quite an experience too, if you are so inclined that is. [/quote]
You sound like a whiney bitch.
You think this is all about “might makes right?”
Actually it’s about the weakling crying over sour grapes.
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You are right, we long for the sound of crushed testicles but we are just not manly enough.
On a scale of say 1-10, how stupid would you say you are?
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Wow, insightful retort there, Franze!
And your ad hominem demonstrates both your class and your intelligence quite well.
But take heart, my young Master Racer!
At least back in Grandpa Nazi’s day your country wasn’t so completely impotent.
You DO have those sweet memories to console youself.[/quote]
So you would say about a 8.5 ?
[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
Torture? That’s the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard. Pouring water in someone’s face is torture? When we start pulling out fingernails with pliers and cutting people heads off, then we’ll be talking torture. Until the STFU.[/quote]
If it was torture when the Japanese did it to US soldiers and they were killed for it, it is torture now.
So unless you had your drowning reflex triggered and actually enjoyed it or think that Americans are higher beings that operate under different rules ( a divine mandate perhaps ?), please, STFU.[/quote]
So every Special Forces member gets “tortured” at the hands of their training officers as a standard part of their training? Bullshit! Triggering someones drowning refex isn’t torture. It may scare the shit out of them, but if that’s your idea of torture, then you are f’ing pussy. [/quote]
Since this is part of the training what they are to expect when they fall into the evil enemies ™ hand, yes this is torture.
You can take it up with Jesse Ventura if you do not accept this.
Also, when it is torture when it is done to Americans, yes, it is torture when it is done by Americans.
But I am glad that someone unable to grasp thinks that I am a joke.
Strong arguments bro!
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It’s no wonder Europe has gone to shit…[/quote]
But we go to shit in style.
You betray everything you stood for.
And go to shit anyway.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
If it was torture when the Japanese did it to US soldiers and they were killed for it, it is torture now.
.[/quote]
There was a time when rape could result in capital punishment in the US.
I guess standards can change.
Imagine that.[/quote]
Oh yes and its so convenient when you can change them when you just got caught raping someone.
Of course, millions of useful idiots that cheer you on and defend you while you anally pile drive your victim might be quite an experience too, if you are so inclined that is. [/quote]
You sound like a whiney bitch.
You think this is all about “might makes right?”
Actually it’s about the weakling crying over sour grapes.
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You are right, we long for the sound of crushed testicles but we are just not manly enough.
On a scale of say 1-10, how stupid would you say you are?
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Wow, insightful retort there, Franze!
And your ad hominem demonstrates both your class and your intelligence quite well.
But take heart, my young Master Racer!
At least back in Grandpa Nazi’s day your country wasn’t so completely impotent.
You DO have those sweet memories to console youself.[/quote]
So you would say about a 8.5 ?[/quote]
Says the guy who can’t even follow basic 1st grade rules of English grammar.
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Says the guy who cannot even follow kindergarden rules of German spelling, grammar and just about anything.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Says the guy who cannot even follow kindergarden rules of German spelling, grammar and just about anything. [/quote]
Says the guy who cannot even follow kindergarden rules of Japanese politeness, grammar and just about anything.
And I’M stupid? Lol.
We are writing English, now, you Teutonic Moron.
Or at least I am.[/quote]
Hupf in Gatsch und schloag a Wealln…
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]jre67t wrote:
War crimes for what? Honestly if he is charged should not Bush be in the conversation? Also why do we follow international laws.
Seriously, I am not familiar with the laws nor ways of these things. But how can he?[/quote]
Guantano, Abu Ghareib, renditions, torture, kidnapping, unlawful detainment, the breaking of the Geneva Convention?
Just send him over, we will see what will stick.[/quote]
Come and get him. If you can.[/quote]
Oh, I think we could.
However, rule of law and such hassles, you know?
Wait, how would you?
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He wouldn’t.
He belongs under the jail.
[quote]orion wrote:
Well, after a few years or so you could finally point out what America I hate?
The people?
The country?
The government?
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I guess some people can’t tell the difference, that’s what’s so hilarious. To them, Dick Cheney IS “America”. George Bush Is “America”. Really, are you guys still tossing around that antiquated “you just hate America” slogan from 2003? You’ve got to be kidding.
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Ex-Powell aide: Dick Cheney fears prosecution for war crimes
"Dick Cheney was “president for all practical purposes” during George W. Bush’s first term in office and “fears being tried as a war criminal,” according to Colin Powell’s chief of staff during his time as secretary of state.
Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, who has known Cheney for decades, told ABC News that Cheney was a “very vindictive person.”
“I simply don’t recognize Mr. Cheney anymore,” he added.
In his memoir, “In My Time: A Personal and Political Memoir,” which was released Tuesday, Cheney claimed Powell had undermined Bush, by criticizing policy to people outside the administration. Cheney told NBC News that the book would see “heads exploding all over Washington.”
In the ABC interview, Wilkerson suggested Cheney was adopting a tough stance in an attempt to forestall criticism or even prosecution.
“What really sort of got my attention was this way in which he characterized it (the memoir): it’s going to ‘cause heads to explode,’” Powell said. "That’s quite a visual. And in fact, it’s the kind of headline I would expect to come out of a gossip columnist, or the kind of headline you might see one of the supermarket tabloids write. It’s not the kind of headline I would have expected to come from a former vice president of the United States of America.
“I think he’s just trying to, one, assert himself so he’s not in some subsequent time period tried for war crimes and, second, so that he somehow vindicates himself because he feels like he needs vindication. That in itself tells you something about him,” Wilkerson added."
There’s more on link above.
Is there really any chance of Cheney being brought up on war crimes or is Cheney just being paranoid?
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Yes, he is a war criminal. His refusal to shoot down the 2nd plane is enough for me – he should be in a cell, with a 300 pound very horny homosexual pervert.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Ex-Powell aide: Dick Cheney fears prosecution for war crimes
"Dick Cheney was “president for all practical purposes” during George W. Bush’s first term in office and “fears being tried as a war criminal,” according to Colin Powell’s chief of staff during his time as secretary of state.
Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, who has known Cheney for decades, told ABC News that Cheney was a “very vindictive person.”
“I simply don’t recognize Mr. Cheney anymore,” he added.
In his memoir, “In My Time: A Personal and Political Memoir,” which was released Tuesday, Cheney claimed Powell had undermined Bush, by criticizing policy to people outside the administration. Cheney told NBC News that the book would see “heads exploding all over Washington.”
In the ABC interview, Wilkerson suggested Cheney was adopting a tough stance in an attempt to forestall criticism or even prosecution.
“What really sort of got my attention was this way in which he characterized it (the memoir): it’s going to ‘cause heads to explode,’” Powell said. "That’s quite a visual. And in fact, it’s the kind of headline I would expect to come out of a gossip columnist, or the kind of headline you might see one of the supermarket tabloids write. It’s not the kind of headline I would have expected to come from a former vice president of the United States of America.
“I think he’s just trying to, one, assert himself so he’s not in some subsequent time period tried for war crimes and, second, so that he somehow vindicates himself because he feels like he needs vindication. That in itself tells you something about him,” Wilkerson added."
There’s more on link above.
Is there really any chance of Cheney being brought up on war crimes or is Cheney just being paranoid?
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Yes, he is a war criminal. His refusal to shoot down the 2nd plane is enough for me – he should be in a cell, with a 300 pound very horny homosexual pervert.
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I dont think a 300 lbs guy has the endurance I am looking for in Cheneys cellmate.
Also, nobody could possibly be that horny.