Chemo Drugs Killing Nurses

Might want to think twice before working with chemo drugs… MSN

most of the female radiologists at our hospital have autistic children.

so…there’s that.

Why are they taking the drugs?

Not good. Not good at all. How many hospital administrators / drug manufacturers are going to feel like investing in new training and new procedures and new equipment? I feel like this is one of those times that unions have a purpose.

Right, they’re basically describing how due to the long routine of the job they get accustomed to the risks and start to cut corners. Not wearing gloves, aprons etc etc… Allowing skin contact with the drugs etc etc etc…

Basically due to slacking, corner cutting and NOT being conscientious of handling these drugs according to set procedures. Simple as that.

[quote]Gregus wrote:
Right, they’re basically describing how due to the long routine of the job they get accustomed to the risks and start to cut corners. Not wearing gloves, aprons etc etc… Allowing skin contact with the drugs etc etc etc…

Basically due to slacking, corner cutting and NOT being conscientious of handling these drugs according to set procedures. Simple as that. [/quote]

I disagree. I think manufacturers have to insitute fool proof methods of packaging drugs from the top down. The people over at quality control need to come up with a better set of standard operating procedures to avoid stuff like this:

“(The chemo drugs) been found on the outsides of the drug vials shipped from manufactures”

Meanwhile on the other end hospitals need to provide sophisticated systems and equipment like “impervious chemo gowns, double-gloving, use of sophisticated â??closed-systemâ?? devices and specialized ventilation hoods, face shields and respirators, clean rooms and other precautions” in accordance with CDC guidelines.

Nurses are humans and will make mistakes. This is my only real issue with your post. You describe the nurses as becoming lazy in their work habits. But I just think accidents like vials breaking will happen once in a while. If there are ways that the work can be done that mitigate risk to nurses in the event of ordinary human error accidents they should be implemented.

I see what you are saying though for sure. The cheapest option will of course be to focus on educating nurses on best available practices on handling the stuff so that they can at least be informed of the risk they undergo.

Here is an exerpt from the article:

"Her attitude then was similar to those of many of her peers. They had been advised to wear ?chemo protective gowns? made of heavy paper, with little cuffs, and double gloves. ?But nobody really did (wear double gloves) because it made it hard to manipulate needles. And no one said if we didn?t follow (the guidelines) we were at any greater risk.?

They knew how they were supposed to handle it. This is akin to smoking. You’re warned about it, you know it kills, you saw it kill, and you smoke anyway. Then cry foul when you get sick from it.

Common sense dictates that when working with a toxic substance you insulate yourself from it. Again, common friggin sense. Now we have to have millions and millions spent on what is in essence cutting corners.

[quote]Eli B wrote:

I disagree. I think manufacturers have to insitute fool proof methods of packaging drugs [/quote]

This is not possible. The creativity, will and resolve of a fool can never be defeated.

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:

I disagree. I think manufacturers have to insitute fool proof methods of packaging drugs [/quote]

This is not possible. The creativity, will and resolve of a fool can never be defeated.[/quote]

That’s funny and a true Dat bro.

[quote]Gregus wrote:
Here is an exerpt from the article:

"Her attitude then was similar to those of many of her peers. They had been advised to wear ?chemo protective gowns? made of heavy paper, with little cuffs, and double gloves. ?But nobody really did (wear double gloves) because it made it hard to manipulate needles. And no one said if we didn?t follow (the guidelines) we were at any greater risk.?

They knew how they were supposed to handle it. This is akin to smoking. You’re warned about it, you know it kills, you saw it kill, and you smoke anyway. Then cry foul when you get sick from it.

Common sense dictates that when working with a toxic substance you insulate yourself from it. Again, common friggin sense. Now we have to have millions and millions spent on what is in essence cutting corners. [/quote]

Fair enough. Education and awareness then are key.

“Shampoooo is betta, I go on first and clean da hayr.”

[quote]Im_New_Feed_Me wrote:
“Shampoooo is betta, I go on first and clean da hayr.”[/quote]

Hmm. Well that is sad, but there are a lot of industries where not following directions results in immediate injury and/or painful death of possibly more people than just the one who didn’t follow directions.

Nurses and pharmacists aren’t any different.