[quote]cnice wrote:
You know, LT made a stink about what the Patriots players did after SD missed that field goal, on their emblem in the middle of the field. Talking about imitating Shawn’s dance after he makes a sack.
What he fails to mention is that most of Merriman’s sacks were at the opponents fields (and he danced on THEIR emblem)…By the way Shawn, Jason Taylor said that in the mail YOU will find some popcorn so that YOU can enjoy WATCHING the rest of the playoffs!![/quote]
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
cnice wrote:
You know, LT made a stink about what the Patriots players did after SD missed that field goal, on their emblem in the middle of the field. Talking about imitating Shawn’s dance after he makes a sack.
What he fails to mention is that most of Merriman’s sacks were at the opponents fields (and he danced on THEIR emblem)…By the way Shawn, Jason Taylor said that in the mail YOU will find some popcorn so that YOU can enjoy WATCHING the rest of the playoffs!!
It is a lack of class no matter who does it.
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I think you’re entirely wrong. If a team beats another team at their field, they deserve to celebrate. LT made it seem like merriman’s dance is fuckin sacred or something. the pats have often celebrated doing the opposing teams dance-see the super bowl vs philly.
I think the pats do it the right way-they keep their mouths shut before the game, and after they WIN, they celebrate. maybe they wouldn’t do it if the other team kept their mouths shut before the game . dancing on a teams logo is fine, they won, for that day they own that field post-game. I say that dancing is fine, however other stuff like spitting on it, pissing on it is not cool.
tell lt to go pose for next year’s madden cover, and go watch him tear his knee up.
I can’t believe that Phil Simms will be announcing at the Superbowl.
I mean - he has to be one of the worst color guys in the business. I’d almost rather hear Dan Dierdorf yammering. I said ALMOST.
Honestly - if CBS is going to announce NFL games - why can’t they find some decent talent to call the games?[/quote]
probably the best color man in the business is Troy Aikman. does some analysis, nothing over the top like his partner Joe Buck or Collinsworth. Also is not experiencing early dementia like madden or dierdorf. I’d pair him up with Gus Johnson for the big game.
[quote]cougarenegade wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
cnice wrote:
You know, LT made a stink about what the Patriots players did after SD missed that field goal, on their emblem in the middle of the field. Talking about imitating Shawn’s dance after he makes a sack.
What he fails to mention is that most of Merriman’s sacks were at the opponents fields (and he danced on THEIR emblem)…By the way Shawn, Jason Taylor said that in the mail YOU will find some popcorn so that YOU can enjoy WATCHING the rest of the playoffs!!
It is a lack of class no matter who does it.
I think you’re entirely wrong. If a team beats another team at their field, they deserve to celebrate. LT made it seem like merriman’s dance is fuckin sacred or something. the pats have often celebrated doing the opposing teams dance-see the super bowl vs philly.
I think the pats do it the right way-they keep their mouths shut before the game, and after they WIN, they celebrate. maybe they wouldn’t do it if the other team kept their mouths shut before the game . dancing on a teams logo is fine, they won, for that day they own that field post-game. I say that dancing is fine, however other stuff like spitting on it, pissing on it is not cool.
tell lt to go pose for next year’s madden cover, and go watch him tear his knee up.[/quote]
I completely agree. If someone does a stupid dance like Merriman does, he deserves to get mocked.
I fuggin’ hate that stupid thing he does.
Oh and LT, if you don’t want guys celebrating at midfield, maybe your team should have won.
I have much respect for LT but suck it up. You lost, they won, let them celebrate.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
It is a lack of class no matter who does it.
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Can’t argue that point. Not something that is in the norm for the Pats. This is the first time I have questioned anything about LT, because from what I had seen and heard until now, he seemed like a class guy. But I found that if a person has to TELL you that he’s classy, uhum, well I think you know the rest…
[quote]cnice wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
It is a lack of class no matter who does it.
Can’t argue that point. Not something that is in the norm for the Pats. This is the first time I have questioned anything about LT, because from what I had seen and heard until now, he seemed like a class guy. But I found that if a person has to TELL you that he’s classy, uhum, well I think you know the rest…[/quote]
I was surprised the Pat’s did it. It is not their style. They are not my team but I respect them for what they have done and the way they usually carry themselves.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
chillain wrote:
rainjack wrote:
And he proved it yet again. Throwing the challenge flag with 4 minutes left? Calling timeout just seconds ahead of the 2-minute warning?
Using their final timeout before or after the 2:00 warning doesn’t matter at all. And while that last challenge was dumb, it’s just peanuts compared to the four turnovers SD committed.
Still, Marty will be ripped because that’s the popular thing to do. Just like nobody says anything bad about Dungy. (Dungy’s coaching blunder in their Week 13 loss at TEN never did get the criticism it deserved)
Timeout mis-management cost them the game. At the very least it cost them another couple of plays to get into makable field goal range and putting the game into overtime.
Probably the biggest snafu was the 4th down interception/fumble that kept the Patriots’ drive going at the end.
You can think what you want to - but from the moment that Marty put on the headset with about 4.5 minutes left, the Chargers started pissing down their leg.
I was pulling for the CHargers, and they should have won. The difference is that Marty can’t coach when it is needed most: in the crunch.
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Have you bought yourself a Tom Brady NE Patriots jersey yet Rainjack???
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Timeout mis-management cost them the game. At the very least it cost them another couple of plays to get into makable field goal range and putting the game into overtime. [/quote]
Why isn’t it the four turnovers (and silly personal foul) that cost them the game?
No question that extra timeout would’ve come in handy. But just because that was SD’s final error (and is fresh in everyone’s mind) doesn’t make it the worst one.
I can’t wait to see the pats beat indy on sunday. After the game, Belichick should go on the 50 and do an imitation of mannings stupid ass face he makes every time a belichick defense confuses the hell out of him.
Still, the colts have played well against the pats in the last two regular season games. If the pats do beat indy this week, I would expect dungy to deserve the blame, not manning.
[quote]cougarenegade wrote:
I can’t wait to see the pats beat indy on sunday. After the game, Belichick should go on the 50 and do an imitation of mannings stupid ass face he makes every time a belichick defense confuses the hell out of him.
Still, the colts have played well against the pats in the last two regular season games. If the pats do beat indy this week, I would expect dungy to deserve the blame, not manning.[/quote]
If Dungy has a 20-something year habit of blowing playoff games, then you may have a point.
Marty has been blowing playoff games since before many of you were even potty trained.
Probably the biggest snafu was the 4th down interception/fumble that kept the Patriots’ drive going at the end.
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Just knock it down![/quote]
I don’t agree with just knocking it down if you can make an interception… However, I do agree with once you make it in clutch times like that you should just fall down or go out of bounds.
Sometimes you can’t help things like turnovers that happen on the field. Things like that are expected to happen and are going to happen in football games. You just can’t control them all the time.
What you can control are things your coach does (timeout management, play calling, etc…).
That’s why the challenge/timeout mismanagement are going to be blamed for the most obvious reason they lost the game. He could’ve chosen to save that challenge (which was obvious to everyone it wasn’t going to be overturned) and saved a timeout.
Yeah, the Charged played a sloppy game and made some mistakes, and yes, the blame is not ALL Marty’s, but he deserves a hefty chunk.
[quote]chillain wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Timeout mis-management cost them the game. At the very least it cost them another couple of plays to get into makable field goal range and putting the game into overtime.
Why isn’t it the four turnovers (and silly personal foul) that cost them the game?
Probably the biggest snafu was the 4th down interception/fumble that kept the Patriots’ drive going at the end.
No question that extra timeout would’ve come in handy. But just because that was SD’s final error (and is fresh in everyone’s mind) doesn’t make it the worst one.
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[quote]cougarenegade wrote:
I can’t wait to see the pats beat indy on sunday. After the game, Belichick should go on the 50 and do an imitation of mannings stupid ass face he makes every time a belichick defense confuses the hell out of him.
Still, the colts have played well against the pats in the last two regular season games. If the pats do beat indy this week, I would expect dungy to deserve the blame, not manning.[/quote]
I sure hope the Patriots don’t do anything like that.
One of the reason’s I enjoy watching the Patriots is because they don’t talk trash all week long and when they win they do it with class (generally).
It’s nice to see a team act like that in PROFESSIONAL sports.
Probably the biggest snafu was the 4th down interception/fumble that kept the Patriots’ drive going at the end.
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Just knock it down!
I don’t agree with just knocking it down if you can make an interception… However, I do agree with once you make it in clutch times like that you should just fall down or go out of bounds.
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Um, why not knock it down? Since it was 4th down, you are more than likely going to get better field position if you knock it down. Plus, you don’t risk the fumble on the return.
Probably the biggest snafu was the 4th down interception/fumble that kept the Patriots’ drive going at the end.
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Just knock it down!
I don’t agree with just knocking it down if you can make an interception… However, I do agree with once you make it in clutch times like that you should just fall down or go out of bounds.
Um, why not knock it down? Since it was 4th down, you are more than likely going to get better field position if you knock it down. Plus, you don’t risk the fumble on the return.[/quote]
I was speaking in general terms (should’ve clarified). A lot of people say, “Just knock it down,” when it’s third and long or what not.
If he hadn’t fumbled no one would be saying anything like “trying to pad his stats,” that’s ridiculous.
He should’ve went down, yeah, but when it’s a high speed high pressure game like that and you have a chance for an interception, it’s against your instincts to knock it down.
Probably the biggest snafu was the 4th down interception/fumble that kept the Patriots’ drive going at the end.
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Just knock it down!
I don’t agree with just knocking it down if you can make an interception… However, I do agree with once you make it in clutch times like that you should just fall down or go out of bounds.
Um, why not knock it down? Since it was 4th down, you are more than likely going to get better field position if you knock it down. Plus, you don’t risk the fumble on the return.
[quote]cougarenegade wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Just a short hijack -
I can’t believe that Phil Simms will be announcing at the Superbowl.
I mean - he has to be one of the worst color guys in the business. I’d almost rather hear Dan Dierdorf yammering. I said ALMOST.
Honestly - if CBS is going to announce NFL games - why can’t they find some decent talent to call the games?
probably the best color man in the business is Troy Aikman. does some analysis, nothing over the top like his partner Joe Buck or Collinsworth. Also is not experiencing early dementia like madden or dierdorf. I’d pair him up with Gus Johnson for the big game.
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[quote]Sonny S wrote:
cougarenegade wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Just a short hijack -
I can’t believe that Phil Simms will be announcing at the Superbowl.
I mean - he has to be one of the worst color guys in the business. I’d almost rather hear Dan Dierdorf yammering. I said ALMOST.
Honestly - if CBS is going to announce NFL games - why can’t they find some decent talent to call the games?
probably the best color man in the business is Troy Aikman. does some analysis, nothing over the top like his partner Joe Buck or Collinsworth. Also is not experiencing early dementia like madden or dierdorf. I’d pair him up with Gus Johnson for the big game.
I couldn’t disagree more, I can’t stand Aikman.
I love Simms and Collinsworth.[/quote]
as people have already said, simms sucks-he talks too much and tries to make too many points. collinsworth is decent, but why don’t u like aikman-you didn’t specify.