Chael F*ckin Sonnen!

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[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
What

I was very impressed with Rashad’s performance. He looked like every bit a veteran. Not every fight is going to be a stunning KO victory and a pace that looks like street fighter II. For what it was, he dominated Davis, and put on a showing of much improved defense. That’s the most relaxed I’ve ever seen him on his feet, very good parrying. [/quote]

Evans was relaxed, but, he wasn’t facing someone with any kind of stand up game. davis’ punches and kicks seemed very slow. [/quote]

I am torn on the issue. Rashad looked like he was on another level. But he didn’t have that drive to finish. To me, he looked tentative to push forward and risk his chin getting clipped. Smart thing to do at least, the guy’s been rocked quite a bit his last 5 fights.

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[quote]rundymc wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
What

I was very impressed with Rashad’s performance. He looked like every bit a veteran. Not every fight is going to be a stunning KO victory and a pace that looks like street fighter II. For what it was, he dominated Davis, and put on a showing of much improved defense. That’s the most relaxed I’ve ever seen him on his feet, very good parrying. [/quote]

Evans was relaxed, but, he wasn’t facing someone with any kind of stand up game. davis’ punches and kicks seemed very slow. [/quote]

I am torn on the issue. Rashad looked like he was on another level. But he didn’t have that drive to finish. To me, he looked tentative to push forward and risk his chin getting clipped. Smart thing to do at least, the guy’s been rocked quite a bit his last 5 fights.[/quote]

Evans has always had the tendency to coast to victory rather than risk losing his advantage. That isn’t meant as a shot on him. He has the discipline to hold to a winning game plan rather than get swayed by crowds. Cruising to victory has left him sitting at 19-1-1. Taking risks he is not confident in may have cost him.

Davis was good enough not to get run over. He did not give Evans a chance to finnish him with punches. That is to Davis’s credit.

Evans also seems to take pride in not even attempting to submit opponents.

Regards,

Robert A

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[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]Ranzo wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
close fight but I gave it to Bisping. He outworked Sonen in the first two rounds. Ultimately it’s a shame for Bisping that MuÃ???Ã??Ã?±oz got injured. On the showing we saw (and I know it doesn’t always work like that) hewould have handily beaten Maia. Now, he has a 4th loss on his record. I think there are too many judges that give the round to the guy who gets more takedowns.[/quote]

In no way did Bisping outwork Sonned in the first two rounds… against the cage and getting hit in the face is losing. and of course judges give more points to the guy who has more takedowns. That means your defense sucks, the other guy is showing aggression and ocatagon control.

I do think judging should be shifted if they guy pops right back out of it but its still a takedown nonetheless. Also if you keep gettin took down for three rounds time after time you would think at one point a strategy change would be made and if not then you are losing. Im not a huge fan of either one of the guys but Sonnen won no question[/quote]

Sonnen spent more time with his back against the cage getting hit in both rounds. Go back and watch it again with a stopwatch if you need.

Close fight, and I can see why it was scored the other way, just based on my judging experience I would have given it 29/28 to Bisping.[/quote]

That is called wall stalling. those little pitter patter punches are not effective, and not scored all that much. they were both hitting each other against the cage but sonnen is the one who got 2 takedowns in round 1. whether or not bisping got right back up or not, he was still taken down. and that 3rd round was a blowout. if this was pride, where the fight is judged on the whole, we wouldn’t even be disussing this. That 3rd round alone gave sonnen the fight.[/quote]

I agree that under Pride rules Sonnen would have won, under the way I would like to see fights scored, it would have been a draw. 10-9 first two rounds to Bisping (10-9 is marginally won round) 10-8 Sonnen round 3 (10-8 is when there is a clear round winner).

Point is that it was unified rules and in 2 out of 3 rounds Bisping was more effective with striking, grappling and control of the Octagon.

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lmao. It’s so wierd how people can see the fight from so many views. Based purely on MMA, bisping got outclassed. He did … Ok to stay alive, that is all. Chael… did ok to stand out as the better mmaer and aggressor.

Rashad, not the best performance but sent davis back to training for a few more years. Fuck, I miss nut case bangers like RObbie Lawler. People who actually engage and fight. Fight with heart and throw their ‘strategies’ out the door.

Don’t confuse this for saying strategies suck, I just miss the guys who have the sheer balls to lay it on the line.

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[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]Ranzo wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
close fight but I gave it to Bisping. He outworked Sonen in the first two rounds. Ultimately it’s a shame for Bisping that MuÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?±oz got injured. On the showing we saw (and I know it doesn’t always work like that) hewould have handily beaten Maia. Now, he has a 4th loss on his record. I think there are too many judges that give the round to the guy who gets more takedowns.[/quote]

In no way did Bisping outwork Sonned in the first two rounds… against the cage and getting hit in the face is losing. and of course judges give more points to the guy who has more takedowns. That means your defense sucks, the other guy is showing aggression and ocatagon control.

I do think judging should be shifted if they guy pops right back out of it but its still a takedown nonetheless. Also if you keep gettin took down for three rounds time after time you would think at one point a strategy change would be made and if not then you are losing. Im not a huge fan of either one of the guys but Sonnen won no question[/quote]

Sonnen spent more time with his back against the cage getting hit in both rounds. Go back and watch it again with a stopwatch if you need.

Close fight, and I can see why it was scored the other way, just based on my judging experience I would have given it 29/28 to Bisping.[/quote]

That is called wall stalling. those little pitter patter punches are not effective, and not scored all that much. they were both hitting each other against the cage but sonnen is the one who got 2 takedowns in round 1. whether or not bisping got right back up or not, he was still taken down. and that 3rd round was a blowout. if this was pride, where the fight is judged on the whole, we wouldn’t even be disussing this. That 3rd round alone gave sonnen the fight.[/quote]

I agree that under Pride rules Sonnen would have won, under the way I would like to see fights scored, it would have been a draw. 10-9 first two rounds to Bisping (10-9 is marginally won round) 10-8 Sonnen round 3 (10-8 is when there is a clear round winner).

Point is that it was unified rules and in 2 out of 3 rounds Bisping was more effective with striking, grappling and control of the Octagon.[/quote]

Bisping is a homo… glad he lost

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[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]Ranzo wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
close fight but I gave it to Bisping. He outworked Sonen in the first two rounds. Ultimately it’s a shame for Bisping that MuÃ???Ã???Ã??Ã?±oz got injured. On the showing we saw (and I know it doesn’t always work like that) hewould have handily beaten Maia. Now, he has a 4th loss on his record. I think there are too many judges that give the round to the guy who gets more takedowns.[/quote]

In no way did Bisping outwork Sonned in the first two rounds… against the cage and getting hit in the face is losing. and of course judges give more points to the guy who has more takedowns. That means your defense sucks, the other guy is showing aggression and ocatagon control.

I do think judging should be shifted if they guy pops right back out of it but its still a takedown nonetheless. Also if you keep gettin took down for three rounds time after time you would think at one point a strategy change would be made and if not then you are losing. Im not a huge fan of either one of the guys but Sonnen won no question[/quote]

Sonnen spent more time with his back against the cage getting hit in both rounds. Go back and watch it again with a stopwatch if you need.

Close fight, and I can see why it was scored the other way, just based on my judging experience I would have given it 29/28 to Bisping.[/quote]

That is called wall stalling. those little pitter patter punches are not effective, and not scored all that much. they were both hitting each other against the cage but sonnen is the one who got 2 takedowns in round 1. whether or not bisping got right back up or not, he was still taken down. and that 3rd round was a blowout. if this was pride, where the fight is judged on the whole, we wouldn’t even be disussing this. That 3rd round alone gave sonnen the fight.[/quote]

I agree that under Pride rules Sonnen would have won, under the way I would like to see fights scored, it would have been a draw. 10-9 first two rounds to Bisping (10-9 is marginally won round) 10-8 Sonnen round 3 (10-8 is when there is a clear round winner).

Point is that it was unified rules and in 2 out of 3 rounds Bisping was more effective with striking, grappling and control of the Octagon.[/quote]

Don’t know about giving a 10-8 just for positional dominance. There’s only 3 rounds. A 10-8 in this case is extreme and tough to recover from. There’ll be a lot of draws.

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Chael was disappointing but I’m glad he won. Looks like the cut had affected him. If he performs the way he did, in the same state of mind vs Silva, he won’t have any chance. I’d say he had the 1st and 3rd round and Bisping won the second round. I was hoping for a good beat up but Bisping, surprisingly had quite a good takedown defence.

Rashad v Davis, not what I expected. Rashad showed how experienced he is and somehow it seemed that he didn’t want to take any chance into finishing Davis. Anyway, I still don’t see Rashad beating Jones.