Chad's Weirding Me Out...

Training Bodybuilding
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Knuckles,

Wow, I had some sarcasm in my post and an explanation of how counting is easy, but still inhibits your ability to produce force, even if it is slight.

You chose to focus on and reply to the sarcasm. That my fellow lifter makes you an idiot. Plain and simple. If you ever won a lotto, you’d disagree with the payment method and never cash the cheque.

Let me put it to you simple.

Counting is easy, yes. Anything that distracts you, no matter how small a distraction is bad. You are an idiot.

If you still don’t get it, good. You’ll likely never learn enough to catch up to my physique and will definitely never learn enough to be a threat at anything. The more people like you on the Earth, the better the rest of us appear, sound and perform relative to you.

Rolo.

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[quote]knuckles wrote:
Yeah, personally, I don’t pay attention to tempo either. Why, because fuck it thats why. Lifting the weight with a 5-1-3 tempo isn’t going to make you bigger or stronger.

It’s the principle. What is a neural tract, why is it clogged up, and why is neural input decending? And why would this matter at all. It is simply a god damned goofy tip and I don’t get it.[/quote]

Anyone who has actually made significant gains in muscle mass will tell you that visualization is a very large part of bodybuilding. I remember reading how Arnold used to “visualize” his biceps getting bigger while he did curls. I grew up doing minor martial arts and the concepts are the same. To maximize your body’s potential in a certain task, it helps to be able to “see” yourself doing it before you do it, and to concentrate on that task WHILE you do it. For beings that only use 10% of our brain power, you would think it would be comonly understood that maximum potential at a task requires focus…as much focus as possible. Worrying about counting reps, sheep, the number of women walking by or how many toes you have takes away from that concentration. I say this as someone that built his arms up from 15" to 20" by not thinking of a damn thing while lifting other than keeping “minor” track of how many reps I just did and while attempting complete focus on the muscle doing the contraction (visualizing it as it contracts). When I was 160lbs, it made complete sense to me. After years of college, advanced education and over 100lbs gained…it makes even more sense to me.

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My god, I cannot believe I’m actually answering this… what a waste of time.

A neural tract is the route a signal from the brain uses to get to the muscle. It uses energy to fire the motor unit. It can get clogged because it is a physical system and as such doesn’t have an infinite capacity. Much like a wire only has so much capacity. Neural input will descend because a split focus requires the physical energy to be sent to more than one place and there is only so much energy to be sent. It isn’t infinite. Less energy to the motor units means LESS FUCKING ENERGY!!! WHICH MEANS WEAKER CONTRACTIONS!!!

[quote]knuckles wrote:
Yeah, personally, I don’t pay attention to tempo either. Why, because fuck it thats why. Lifting the weight with a 5-1-3 tempo isn’t going to make you bigger or stronger.

It’s the principle. What is a neural tract, why is it clogged up, and why is neural input decending? And why would this matter at all. It is simply a god damned goofy tip and I don’t get it.[/quote]

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[quote]Mastermind wrote:

You chose to focus on and reply to the sarcasm. That my fellow lifter makes you an idiot. Plain and simple. If you ever won a lotto, you’d disagree with the payment method and never cash the cheque.
[/quote]

Is this sarcasm too? I can’t tell. Insulting another over the internet and then claiming it was ‘sarcasm’ makes you an idiot.

[quote]
Counting is easy, yes. Anything that distracts you, no matter how small a distraction is bad. You are an idiot.[/quote]

Ok then, I suppose I should lift naked without any music.

[quote]
If you still don’t get it, good. You’ll likely never learn enough to catch up to my physique and will definitely never learn enough to be a threat at anything. The more people like you on the Earth, the better the rest of us appear, sound and perform relative to you.

Rolo.[/quote]

Oh, really, ‘Rolo’? What does your physique look like? How big are your lifts? PM if you want, since you dont have any balls to post your stats on your profile.

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[quote]knuckles wrote:
slimjim wrote:
Well, what the fuck are your credintials or your experiment to back up your theory? It’s nice you get to sit back and question without any evidence for your own opinion other than “I didn’t even know that the areas of the brain that control those functions operated together!”

And it is perfectly fine to question the writers on this site, but saying "What the fuck is Chad smoking and where can I get some.

Can anyone explain this seemingly acid-induced insight?" is not questioning, it’s flat out calling them out without anything to back your own opinion up. Your attitude is the one that is lacking here jackass. You can call us retards and claim you’re fighting against the mob mindset, but all you’re really doing is coming off as an asshole.

Hmm…I don’t remember talking to you, taking any shots at you, or anything. But yet you still provide the website to an online dictionary, telling me I’m stupid. And then you lecture me about my bad attitude. Wow.

By the way, I dont need any evidence to question a claim. Have you ever taken any class, at any college, watched the news, read a book, or talked to somebody outside of the gym? If so, you would know this. [/quote]

From you earlier:
"Do you guys really think counting takes away from your lifting? That you’re losing precious neurons that could be used for lifting the weight? I didn’t even know that the areas of the brain that control those functions operated together!

This type of attitude is retarded."

Granted CW does not need anyone to defend his practices, especially against someone like you on an internet forum, I was throwing you some advice, either use it or don’t; just don’t expect to learn much with the attitude you’ve shown in regards to this subject.

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[quote]knuckles wrote:
Yeah, personally, I don’t pay attention to tempo either. Why, because fuck it thats why. Lifting the weight with a 5-1-3 tempo isn’t going to make you bigger or stronger.

It’s the principle. What is a neural tract, why is it clogged up, and why is neural input decending? And why would this matter at all. It is simply a god damned goofy tip and I don’t get it.[/quote]

A neural tract means the path by way of nerve impulses messages get sent from one chunk of your body to another. Descending tracts are the ones that go from your brain “down” to your extremeties, viscera, whatever. This is as opposed to ascending tracts that go the other way “up” to the brain.

As some have pointed out, we only use about 10 percent of our brain at one time. (We use more then 10 percent total, just not at any one time.) So we only have so much brain power to direct at a given task. The idea is that we don’t want to tie up that brain power we’re using to send nerve impulses from our brain (descending paths) to our muscles (motor units, muscle fiber/s + neuron) doing anything extra. As a side note, this reminds me of the old timer’s ideas about “nervous energy”, if you care to read any old time strength literature…

Chad makes other points in the article as to why keping track of tempo isn’t a good idea. This was just one of them. He also gave some other author’s reasons as to why they believe keeping track of tempo is beneficial, along with his rebuttals.

So, don’t count or do, I don’t think Chad, or anyone else really gives a damn.

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[quote]knuckles wrote:
Ok then, I suppose I should lift naked without any music.

[/quote]

You…are a dumbass.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

For beings that only use 10% of our brain power, you would think it would be comonly understood that maximum potential at a task requires focus…as much focus as possible.[/quote]

FYI, the notion that human beings only use 10% of their brains is a myth:

http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_028.html

The rest of your post I agree with. I also agree with the notion that tempo is largely unnecessary, and possibly detrimental.

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knuckles = troll

“tube steak boogie”

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Knuckles,

I don’t post stats on the net, because they would have no credibility. I can post anything I want without any way for anyone to verify, so there is no point. I know people like you and I can say with certainty that with your current emotional maturity that you have a severe learning disorder called cockiness. With luck that will wane or even disappear. Until then, you’ll get through life like most people, never exceptional, never with a meaningful relationship with anyone but your own deluded self-image.

Reply if you wish, it means nothing, as my own post means nothing. You just won’t get it. I believe you have the brainpower to get it, you are just distracted with your own delusions that you haven’t enough focus to get it.

To Professor X, I am continually amazed that you continue to post responses to these idiots. You sir, are a credit to the nation. I give up. They are useless.

Rolo out

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[quote]pookie wrote:
Can’t anyone here walk and chew bubble gum at the same time?[/quote]

Is that a max effort walk, or for reps? Would you prefer to sprint 100m with or without chewing gum?

[quote]knuckles wrote:
When somebody says that I shouldn’t talk while walking because my ‘neural tracks will be flooded’ and I’ll trip, I’m going to call bullshit.[/quote]

Who said that? The straw man?

Is walking equally as neurologically demanding as your heavy lifts? Does your lifting suck or are you just really bad at walking?

[quote]knuckles wrote:
Ok then, I suppose I should lift naked without any music.[/quote]

Does the music fade into the background during a lift or do you sing along with it?

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If everyone were stoned every time you don’t understand something, this place would probably resemble a perennial global Woodstock.

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[quote]ChrisPowers wrote:
Professor X wrote:

For beings that only use 10% of our brain power, you would think it would be comonly understood that maximum potential at a task requires focus…as much focus as possible.

FYI, the notion that human beings only use 10% of their brains is a myth:

http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_028.html

The rest of your post I agree with. I also agree with the notion that tempo is largely unnecessary, and possibly detrimental.[/quote]

I understand that over the course of a day, the majority of your brain can be used. However, parts of the brain are used over others based on sex, the task at hand and perception. Thank you for pointing out, yet again as someone else already mentioned, that the brain isn’t dormant. Anyone who has viewed MRI scans understands that different areas of the brain are stimulated for certain tasks…but it is still commonly held that there is much untapped pointed out by perception (men and women visualize certain tasks differently and stimulate different areas when it comes to problem solving). I will have to remember that everything typed on this forum gets into a debate about minutia. Next time I shall type out a thesis on brain activity just to get a point across about visualization. Dear Gawd…I didn’t even get into brain activity during REM sleep and no one called me on it!!

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[quote]knuckles wrote:
I assume (and I may be wrong) that the reason CW picked something a bit more difficult than normal counting is to amplify the effects it has, for demonstration purposes (which, btw, it isn’t an “experiment,” it’s only a demonstration). If counting backwards by 2s will keep you from making a lift, then counting normally will also hinder performance. Not to the same degree, but slightly.

That’s my take on it anyway.

Oh, you got me, it’s not an experiment. Shucks.[/quote]

You are an idiot. You pick one insignificant part of my post and focused on this. Read the rest of what I wrote. If counting backwards by 2s hinders the lift, then counting forward normally will also hinder it, although to a lesser degree. That was the point of counting backward.

[quote]You are truly stupid. There is a difference between “questioning a claim” and calling out a recognized expert and saying he’s full of shit. You can question all you want, but saying that CW is full of shit without anything to prove your point makes you look like a total ass.

I don’t know why you’re quoting my response to slimjim, but whatever.

And, OneEye, what I did was question a claim. Whether or not you want to make that into news worthy material is up to you.[/quote]

Because I felt like calling you out on how much of an ass you look like. You did not simply “question a claim.” It doesn’t matter how many times you repeat that you did, it doesn’t change the fact. You were calling bullshit, plain and simple, and you don’t have a damn bit of information to back yourself up. Like I said, questioning someone’s claim is very different than calling bullshit, especially when you have no reason to do so other than the fact that you don’t have the capacity to understand.

There’s plenty of info out there about the merits and drawbacks of tempo prescriptions. Why don’t you go and find something to back up your idiotic claims. Take CW to school, I dare you.

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‘Rolo’, don’t you think you are being a bit of a drama queen at this point? Seriously, if you can determine what kind of person I am by a few posts on the internet, while you’re at it can you give me a physical too? I don’t have medical coverage. : /

Do you do any dental work? I think I might have a cavity.

Oh, really, it does? Obviously. But Chad’s demonstration only shows me one thing, that counting backwards in pairs will inhibit my force production. Thanks, I’ll be sure not to do that next time I’m squatting.

No, really, counting is such a routine task I don’t think anyone here could say with honesty that it has had any impact on their training. The only way I can see counting your tempo messing up your lift is by screwing with your form. But I think that has more to do with using a prescribed tempo than counting. Constantly compensating your force throughout the lift is going to detract from its execution. More of a form problem IMO.

Forgive me for not supplying evidence, after all I’m not a world renowned strength coach with a background in neurophysiology.

How? How is questioning a claim different from calling bullshit? It’s really not. It’s just one is done without tact. :slight_smile:

Anyways, since you obviously have the “capacity to understand”, please explain what neural tracts, descending neural input and clogging have to do with lifting a damn weight and why I should care.

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[quote]michael2507 wrote:
If everyone were stoned every time you don’t understand something, this place would probably resemble a perennial global Woodstock.[/quote]

Probably. But then we wouldn’t have war. So that makes me a champion of justice and peace.

: )

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[quote]knuckles wrote:
How? How is questioning a claim different from calling bullshit? It’s not. It’s just one is done without tact. :slight_smile:

Anyways, since you obviously have the “cpacity to understand”, please explain what neural tracts, descending neural input and clogging have to do with lifting a damn weight and why I should care.[/quote]

If you can’t understand what neural pathways have to do with lifting, there’s nothing I can do to help. You need to go back to school.

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[quote]randman wrote:
knuckles = troll

“tube steak boogie”[/quote]

Once again…I second this.

Knuckles, if you think about it, no one is really knocking your theory that the tempo doesn’t matter. However, there is a thing you are lacking in nearly all of your posts, and that is called respect. I respect CW, Professor X, and quite a few other guys on this site. Therefore, I talk to or about them like I respect them. Like I would talk to a normal, educated human being.

You have abstained from respecting guys who know more than you or I. Therefore, you deserve the flaming. Like one of the other guys said, I’m sure there is an advanced class in all this in your middle school. teach us open minded idiots, please!!

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[quote]OneEye wrote:
If you can’t understand what neural pathways have to do with lifting, there’s nothing I can do to help. You need to go back to school.[/quote]

Neural pathways are groups of neurons that transmit electrical signals from the brain and spinal cord to motor neurons. The motor neurons then release chemicals which cause muscle fibers to contract. I get it. I loved biology.

My question still stands.

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Fightin’ Irish, if I am treated with respect, I reciprocate. If I make a joking remark and am flamed for it, fuck it.

I honestly expected someone to say, “Haha, yeah, I wondered what was up with that, here’s what I think” etc. But you’re all a bunch of fanboys. It’s absolutely ridiculous.