Prof X, you’re avatar came to me in a dream once, and told me the secrets to getting huge (no joke), but in the morning i had forgotten you’re wise tips, man i was pissed… that is all…
[quote]DieselAllDay wrote:
Prof X, you’re avatar came to me in a dream once, and told me the secrets to getting huge (no joke), but in the morning i had forgotten you’re wise tips, man i was pissed… that is all…[/quote]
wow
[quote]MODOK wrote:
This is interesting. I go away for six months and come back to finally have some legitimate questions and lively debate about this guy and his methods. I’ve been waiting for a while to hear some dissent to these obscure theories.
There is a funny thing about training knowledge; effective training is ridiculously simple. People new to the game want to gain size, and believe there must be something inherently complicated about it. So they listen to theories about tempo training, mixed fiber types, concentric/eccentric, bla bla bla. Meanwhile, large guys who have already been there are telling the new guys over and over and over its only progressive resistance, compound movements, hard work and eating a surplus. But the knowledge is not taken truly seriously because perhaps its viewed by the newbie as impossibly simple, and the other gus have “charts and graphs” to prove so. Well, the large guys have “backs and bis” to prove that it IS that simple. YOu want the essence of getting big? Lift till you can’t lift anymore, go home and eat, go to bed, and do that 4 times a week. Train each bodypart again when its not too sore to train. Thats it. That’ll be 49.95 please.
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how much is 49.95 in pubes?
lol just realised this thread is like years old
I tried his programs to gain mass twice for 8 and 12 weeks, personally. I wasn’t getting stronger and gaining any noticeable mass. When I tried to eat more I just got fat
That said, traditional high-volume bodybuilding splits haven’t done much for me either
For mass my best results have come from Westside, Max-OT, and EDT.
When cutting full body routines can be ok, though upper-lower splits seem to work better at preserving strength
Experience trumps theory and good-sounding ideas any day, and that’s my experience
[quote]TheBlade wrote:
I tried his programs to gain mass twice for 8 and 12 weeks, personally. I wasn’t getting stronger and gaining any noticeable mass. When I tried to eat more I just got fat
That said, traditional high-volume bodybuilding splits[/quote] “Traditional” high volume bb splits? Examples? Sure you didn’t just, say, did all sets with the same weight or something like that, or got the routine out of muscle and fitness? 
[quote] haven’t done much for me either
For mass my best results have come from Westside, Max-OT, and EDT.
When cutting full body routines can be ok, though upper-lower splits seem to work better at preserving strength
Experience trumps theory and good-sounding ideas any day, and that’s my experience[/quote]
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
TheBlade wrote:
I tried his programs to gain mass twice for 8 and 12 weeks, personally. I wasn’t getting stronger and gaining any noticeable mass. When I tried to eat more I just got fat
That said, traditional high-volume bodybuilding splits “Traditional” high volume bb splits? Examples? Sure you didn’t just, say, did all sets with the same weight or something like that, or got the routine out of muscle and fitness? haven’t done much for me either
For mass my best results have come from Westside, Max-OT, and EDT.
When cutting full body routines can be ok, though upper-lower splits seem to work better at preserving strength
Experience trumps theory and good-sounding ideas any day, and that’s my experience
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Max-OT works well for many. However, it looks nearly identical to traditional bodypart splits, albeit with less sets and reps.
I grew like a WEED when I followed Westside for two years straight. Those were some of the best mass gains I ever experienced, despite it not being a bodybuilding routine. It helped bring up lagging areas for me, the glutes and upper back.
I gained 20 lbs in a full year of TBT.
I’ve since gained 30lbs in 7 months of BB splits and counting. And having fun to boot.