Celibacy?

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
So you found a couple of grey hairs in your beard and got all ‘I can’t have sex with old women’ on us…

I dread to think what will happen when you find a grey pube![/quote]

That’s not what it’s about. You’d have to know me a bit better to understand. I’m a family values, social conservative but my own life is quite contrary. I’m not attracted to sensible smart girls either. Always wild girls; girls with gambling problems, crazy drivers - I even dated a girl who was into cocaine in a big way. I don’t know what it is but I’m always chasing the wild ones.

A few years ago I had a bad accident and had a lot of time to think about my life and my future. That’s what prompted these thoughts. I’m concerned about my future and to be honest I don’t think I’m cut out to be a family man.[/quote]

Talking about being attracted to “wild ones” made me wonder if you have a little bit of a Madonna-Whore thing going on. I might be wrong, but maybe?

There’s a funny country song with the lyrics “I like my women a little on the trashy side…” Kid bring his prom date home to meet his dad, and she’s a cocktail waitress…“That’s the kind I like.” Very funny.

The smart, nice woman who shares your values and isn’t addicted to coke might still be fun to sleep with. Just a thought.

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

The smart, nice woman who shares your values and isn’t addicted to coke might still be fun to sleep with. Just a thought.
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It’s just going to take quite a bit longer for her to relax enough to trust you that you won’t judge her negatively for being good in bed.

Oh, and I agree with Emily and SP that long-term relationships and kids aren’t for everyone. That’s OK if that’s the case for you.

About age. My brother decided to marry at 40. He finally decided that maybe he was missing something, and wanted to marry and have kids. His wife is a beautiful blond, 17 years younger. At 40, if he wanted to have his own biological children, he couldn’t really look at women his own age. So, the moral of the story is - Biology Happens.


Push - Big Congrats!!

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote
Cool hobbies?

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Yes

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Like parkour? Lmao

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Sexmachine, consider that when SmilingPolitely was 24, her boyfriend was 38. Does that age differential strike you as particularly “creepy”? According to the aforementioned formula, he should be sticking to women at least 31 and a half years old.[/quote]
Your math is wrong here.

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Sexmachine, consider that when SmilingPolitely was 24, her boyfriend was 38. Does that age differential strike you as particularly “creepy”? According to the aforementioned formula, he should be sticking to women at least 31 and a half years old.[/quote]
Your math is wrong here. [/quote]

Yeah and they met when she was 33 and he was 47.

But the crux of the post still holds true.

SexMachine! G’day mate, how you goin’?

SexMachine, in no way am I making fun of you, your views or the situation you expect yourself to be in in, say, 15 years. After reading through the whole thing, I can’t help but feel amused. For a moment, I thought you just wanted to draw attention or something.

Having said that, I deem the scenario you set up ridiculous. Even if the following statement you made really is your reality:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Womanless = life over. After serious consideration of the matter that’s how I feel about it. When I look at what really matters that’s all that comes up. Money? Just a means to an end. Same with success. What do you think motivates most the guys here to work out? Forget what they say. It’s all about getting girls. That’s why they do it.
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If chasing and bedding wimmenz is what by far matters most to you in life and you’ll keep taking care of yourself (mentally, physically, culturally and maybe apply a little cognitive and affective empathy here and there), you’ll be golden.
Take a look at old man push. I doubt he’d be having trouble scoring, should he so choose. I mean, take a look at his derriere he’s so fond of showcasing to Colucci - that’s some real thrusting prowess right there (all homo, push - I know you can take it). And he’s going to be a gramps, to boot.

Now, nobody is in a position to tell you what you should value most in your life, SexMachine. I’m just suggesting that there are additional worthwhile pursuits one could dedicate (parts of) his life to in addition to chasing and bedding women and lifting weights.
By ‘dedicate’, I’m not talking about chores. I mean ‘engaging in something long-term, constantly improving and having fun’.

You see, as much as I love carnal pursuits (wimmenz, the female shape) and physical exertion (lifting, hiking, running), I used to feel empty after emptying myself into a nice lady (no matter how great the sex was) or setting a new PR.

So, maybe there are a few other things that might rank right up there with wimmenz for you. Maybe you already have plenty of them and just failed to mention it. Maybe I misinterpreted your statement about ‘Womanless = life over’.
And even without those additional pursuits: you’ll be golden (see above).

To give my words some tangible context:
I’m about your age (mid 30s) and I love wimmenz like the next guy.
As much as I love adventure, I also love to read. A lot. In many languages. I also love Science, that’s why I dedicated 6 years of my life to Science and R&D after earning two degrees (which were necessary to give me a good headstart). After that, I’ve felt the pull of adventure once again (and making big money) and said my farewells to Science.
Another thing close to my heart is helping out people in need. I’m a life consultant of sorts on the side, but all pro bono and only by referral (my inner problem solver gets a big kick out of this, tbh).

I chased cougars way before uni and before they were called cougars (I think), I lived menage a trois (them damn accents ain’t working), I lived polyamory (it’s not for me), I tried many a (shitty) thing that seemed to be fun at first and after some time I found what I perceived to be the perfect match (pure happenstance) and I married her (best thing I ever did).
And together, we’re having us our own adventures. Still, I’m sticking to my guns (Science, Books, Problem Solving).

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By the way, don’t take this as an endorsement for marriage: iMho, a lot less folks should get married. If you can’t communicate with and open up honestly to your partner and haven’t at least lived together for a substantial amount of time, you have no business getting married. But hey, that’s just me - it’s a free country.
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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I I guess my life will be pretty much over in ten years or so. What a drag… :([/quote]

Not over, but possibly womanless. [/quote]

Womanless = life over. After serious consideration of the matter that’s how I feel about it. When I look at what really matters that’s all that comes up. Money? Just a means to an end. Same with success. What do you think motivates most the guys here to work out? Forget what they say. It’s all about getting girls. That’s why they do it.[/quote]

I’m not quite sure why you think that just because you have no desire to get married or have kids that you are relegated to being woman less. My bf is 51 and he has been quite clear that he doesn’t want to get married, have kids or even live together…ever. We’ve been together 4 years.

He was upfront with me from the beginning and offered me the opportunity to join him on his journey or not. While it may sound like an asshole move, it was actually quite freeing. The terms were set for what both of us were looking for and the other person knows that any time they feel like more, the door is there. No hard feelings, just a great time was had and now we move on.

No, he doesn’t pay my bills or put me up in an apartment or by me expensive clothes; though he covers my beer when I am with him so that may cost him a small fortune! We each have our own lives and see each other generally every other weekend but speak multiple times a day.

I would be scratched off most people’s list because I am a 37 year old single mother and the stigma is that I am trying to ensnare a man, which is completely not the case. I am dating someone to enhance my already fulfilling life and to look at a relationship as anything else is a recipe for disaster

I think if more guys were upfront about what they wanted, they would avoid the “inevitable trap” of marriage. My bf does not begrudge me the opportunity to get married, it just won’t be to him. Case closed.

In the end, don’t pigeon hole yourself to a particular type. Look beyond what you normally would and you might find something that fits even better. By all accounts, my bf and I should not get along at all, but the intangibles fit perfectly together so life is good. I wish the same for you.[/quote]

Thanks. And that sounds like a really good arrangement. Unfortunately I haven’t been in many long term relationships. Six months or so is about average for me. Sometimes less; sometimes more. I think deep down I really want to have children but I dread the responsibility. My parents sacrificed everything for my brother and I and if I had kids I’d feel pretty much obligated to devote all my energy and resources into raising them. [/quote]

It’s worth it.
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There’s only my brother and myself and my sister-in-law can’t have children so if I don’t the family line is finished. Sounds pretty selfish but I was hoping my brother wouldn’t marry her anyway. I don’t like her. Anyway that’s about all the personal information I wish to share online. [/quote]

I’ve said it before in various threads but raising kids was the biggest joy of my life…and I’ve had plenty of other joy.

I absolutely loved it.

Homeschooled my kids. Took them with me all over the US and Canada on business and pleasure. Gave them a childhood that 99% of folks could only imagine. They grew up healthy, strong, and disciplined. They know how to work. They know how to play. And I was there every step of the way (hey, that rhymes, what a poet). Very fulfilling.

There is no greater feeling on the face of the earth than your young daughter running up to meet after you’ve been gone and jumping in your arms for your welcome-home hug. No greater feeling than wrasslin’ your young son on the living room floor after supper and listen to him giggle with joy when he pins you down.

And FWIW, first grandkid is due in August. More fun, fulfilling times for me to come.
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Congratulations man! That’s great. I better get busy myself. There was a nurse who helped put me back together a few years ago that was the marrying type and I think she wanted me to ask her out but I never did. I was embarrassed because she did all kinds of personal stuff. And I wasn’t really interested in dating at that time as I was still recovering.

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
So you found a couple of grey hairs in your beard and got all ‘I can’t have sex with old women’ on us…

I dread to think what will happen when you find a grey pube![/quote]

That’s not what it’s about. You’d have to know me a bit better to understand. I’m a family values, social conservative but my own life is quite contrary. I’m not attracted to sensible smart girls either. Always wild girls; girls with gambling problems, crazy drivers - I even dated a girl who was into cocaine in a big way. I don’t know what it is but I’m always chasing the wild ones.

A few years ago I had a bad accident and had a lot of time to think about my life and my future. That’s what prompted these thoughts. I’m concerned about my future and to be honest I don’t think I’m cut out to be a family man.[/quote]

Talking about being attracted to “wild ones” made me wonder if you have a little bit of a Madonna-Whore thing going on. I might be wrong, but maybe?

There’s a funny country song with the lyrics “I like my women a little on the trashy side…” Kid bring his prom date home to meet his dad, and she’s a cocktail waitress…“That’s the kind I like.” Very funny.

The smart, nice woman who shares your values and isn’t addicted to coke might still be fun to sleep with. Just a thought.
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Not a Modonna-whore complex. More like a wild, rich girl complex. One of my first girlfriends was 23 when I was 17 and she was wild and crazy and drove her daddy’s BMW like a maniac. I was totally infatuated with her. After that it was just kind of a pattern of similar girls. I have dated smart girls though. But I think the sensible girls didn’t see me as long term material and I’m sure they’re right. That’s part of what makes them sensible I guess; staying away from guys like me.

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Sexmachine, consider that when SmilingPolitely was 24, her boyfriend was 38. Does that age differential strike you as particularly “creepy”? According to the aforementioned formula, he should be sticking to women at least 31 and a half years old.[/quote]
Your math is wrong here. [/quote]

Huh. So it is.

Thirty-TWO and a half, then.

I would not agree with “womanless = life over” but I don’t think it’s childish thinking considering that although life does not end when there’s no woman around, being womanless can sure make men with a natural and healthy sex drive miserable and angry! You can work your ass off, make money, work out, find meaning in something, take up hobbies, or whatever, but without a woman, all that can become old real quickly.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Sexmachine, consider that when SmilingPolitely was 24, her boyfriend was 38. Does that age differential strike you as particularly “creepy”? According to the aforementioned formula, he should be sticking to women at least 31 and a half years old.[/quote]
Your math is wrong here. [/quote]

Huh. So it is.

Thirty-TWO and a half, then.[/quote]
The rule is the man’s age divided by 2 + 7 years. So if he is 38, theoretically he shouldn’t date anyone younger than 26.

Totally independent of this thread, I recently had a conversation with an incredibly fit almost 65 year old male who mentioned that his ability to appreciate beauty and appeal in women had really broadened as he aged. I thought it was an interesting statement at the time but particularly relevant to this thread.

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Sexmachine, consider that when SmilingPolitely was 24, her boyfriend was 38. Does that age differential strike you as particularly “creepy”? According to the aforementioned formula, he should be sticking to women at least 31 and a half years old.[/quote]
Your math is wrong here. [/quote]

Huh. So it is.

Thirty-TWO and a half, then.[/quote]
The rule is the man’s age divided by 2 + 7 years. So if he is 38, theoretically he shouldn’t date anyone younger than 26.

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He’s currently 51.

51/2+7=32.5

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

Totally independent of this thread, I recently had a conversation with an incredibly fit almost 65 year old male who mentioned that his ability to appreciate beauty and appeal in women had really broadened as he aged. I thought it was an interesting statement at the time but particularly relevant to this thread.[/quote]

Well, sure. As a man ages, the pool of women younger than he continues to increase. :wink:

I got friends in their 40s that steady bang chicks in the 20’s… By the time you get 40 you will have so much knowledge tricking these collge kids & waitresses isnt hard… Also plenty of women look damn fine in 30s & 40s dont be such a hater… Age aint nothin but a #

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
I got friends in their 40s that steady bang chicks in the 20’s… By the time you get 40 you will have so much knowledge tricking these collge kids & waitresses isnt hard… Also plenty of women look damn fine in 30s & 40s dont be such a hater… Age aint nothin but a #[/quote]

Nothing but a hash tag?

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

He’s currently 51.

51/2+7=32.5[/quote]

Deal with whole numbers and round down.

51/2 = 25 + 7 = 32.

You’re also allowed have a margin of error in your calculations.

:slight_smile:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
I got friends in their 40s that steady bang chicks in the 20’s… By the time you get 40 you will have so much knowledge tricking these collge kids & waitresses isnt hard… Also plenty of women look damn fine in 30s & 40s dont be such a hater… Age aint nothin but a #[/quote]

There is no “knowledge” required. You go to a place where girls are looking for men; ie, bar/club. You dress really nicely; clean, new Ralph Lauren polo shirt, light coloured chinos. Make sure everything looks clean and that you’re impecably groomed. White is good on clothes. it looks fresh and clean. High quality clothes are nice too like cashmere sweater in baby blue perhaps. The White shirt; baby blue cashmere sweater and nicely trimmed beard/moustache looks good. A white colour is good and it will make you look clean and nice. A white collar is good too as girls are attracted to guy’s necks; well, many are.

Girls will check you out. You then go and talk to them in a casual, comfortable way and bingo. Anyone who isn’t deformed, ugly or a weirdo can do it. All those “game” knowledge is mostly hoo har for losers who can’t attract women.

[quote]2busy wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

He’s currently 51.

51/2+7=32.5[/quote]

Deal with whole numbers and round down.

51/2 = 25 + 7 = 32.

You’re also allowed have a margin of error in your calculations.

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Well thank goodness it has been empirically proven that my boyfriend is a dirty old man…and I totally dig that about him :wink:

SexMachine, I think what we are all getting at is that if you want to bang hot, young things in your 40s, 50s, etc. you will be able to find chicks willing to do that. However, if you want a woman with a little more substance that could maintain your interest outside of the bedroom, you don’t have to settle for the stereotypical soccer mom driving a minivan. There are some pretty damn awesome chicks rocking their 30s and 40s and beyond. You may need to change your fishing spot to find them, but they are there if you look.

Again, best of luck in whatever makes you happy :slight_smile: