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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I I guess my life will be pretty much over in ten years or so. What a drag… :([/quote]

Not over, but possibly womanless. [/quote]

Womanless = life over. After serious consideration of the matter that’s how I feel about it. When I look at what really matters that’s all that comes up. Money? Just a means to an end. Same with success. What do you think motivates most the guys here to work out? Forget what they say. It’s all about getting girls. That’s why they do it.[/quote]

I’m not quite sure why you think that just because you have no desire to get married or have kids that you are relegated to being woman less. My bf is 51 and he has been quite clear that he doesn’t want to get married, have kids or even live together…ever. We’ve been together 4 years.

He was upfront with me from the beginning and offered me the opportunity to join him on his journey or not. While it may sound like an asshole move, it was actually quite freeing. The terms were set for what both of us were looking for and the other person knows that any time they feel like more, the door is there. No hard feelings, just a great time was had and now we move on.

No, he doesn’t pay my bills or put me up in an apartment or by me expensive clothes; though he covers my beer when I am with him so that may cost him a small fortune! We each have our own lives and see each other generally every other weekend but speak multiple times a day.

I would be scratched off most people’s list because I am a 37 year old single mother and the stigma is that I am trying to ensnare a man, which is completely not the case. I am dating someone to enhance my already fulfilling life and to look at a relationship as anything else is a recipe for disaster

I think if more guys were upfront about what they wanted, they would avoid the “inevitable trap” of marriage. My bf does not begrudge me the opportunity to get married, it just won’t be to him. Case closed.

In the end, don’t pigeon hole yourself to a particular type. Look beyond what you normally would and you might find something that fits even better. By all accounts, my bf and I should not get along at all, but the intangibles fit perfectly together so life is good. I wish the same for you.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I I guess my life will be pretty much over in ten years or so. What a drag… :([/quote]

Not over, but possibly womanless. [/quote]

Womanless = life over. After serious consideration of the matter that’s how I feel about it. When I look at what really matters that’s all that comes up. Money? Just a means to an end. Same with success. What do you think motivates most the guys here to work out? Forget what they say. It’s all about getting girls. That’s why they do it.[/quote]

Exactly how old are you? I expect this sort of thing from teenagers.

Here’s a tip from someone on the wrong side of 50…It’ll pass. You’ll end up banging with a 40 year old just like the rest of us. Just remember, the older the cushion…

As for the pubes. Yes they do go grey and no amount of shaving will stop that.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
So you found a couple of grey hairs in your beard and got all ‘I can’t have sex with old women’ on us…

I dread to think what will happen when you find a grey pube![/quote]

That’s not what it’s about. You’d have to know me a bit better to understand. I’m a family values, social conservative but my own life is quite contrary. I’m not attracted to sensible smart girls either. Always wild girls; girls with gambling problems, crazy drivers - I even dated a girl who was into cocaine in a big way. I don’t know what it is but I’m always chasing the wild ones.

A few years ago I had a bad accident and had a lot of time to think about my life and my future. That’s what prompted these thoughts. I’m concerned about my future and to be honest I don’t think I’m cut out to be a family man.[/quote]

It sounds like you’ll be able to attract the kind of girl you like well into your dotage, so what’s the problem? It sounds like it will all match up very well.

Editing because I meant to say that I can’t see why anyone would care very much whether you pursue a “family man” future aside from perhaps your mother.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I I guess my life will be pretty much over in ten years or so. What a drag… :([/quote]

Not over, but possibly womanless. [/quote]

Womanless = life over. After serious consideration of the matter that’s how I feel about it. When I look at what really matters that’s all that comes up. Money? Just a means to an end. Same with success. What do you think motivates most the guys here to work out? Forget what they say. It’s all about getting girls. That’s why they do it.[/quote]

Are you doing everything in your power to maximize your desirability and longevity of your desirability?

  1. do you lift weights and do small amounts of cardio? (I hope so if you’re on this site)
  2. Do you eat clean? Do you maintain a lowish body fat (under 15%)?
  3. Do you dress well?
  4. Are you charming and do you continually develop your charm (frequently socializing going out regularly)? Are you comfortable striking up conversations with random women?
  5. Are you working towards something? Career? Cool hobbies? Do you have a mission you’ve defined for yourself in life? There’s a reason the drummer of a shitty cover band gets more pussy than Bob from accounting
  6. Do you take care of your skin? Most men do not
  7. Do you keep yourself up to date with young people culture?

My advice would be to get onto TRT once you’re 35-40+. Probably earlier if you’re permanently handicapped and cannot exercise nearly as vigorously as you use to.

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[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I I guess my life will be pretty much over in ten years or so. What a drag… :([/quote]

Not over, but possibly womanless. [/quote]

Womanless = life over. After serious consideration of the matter that’s how I feel about it. When I look at what really matters that’s all that comes up. Money? Just a means to an end. Same with success. What do you think motivates most the guys here to work out? Forget what they say. It’s all about getting girls. That’s why they do it.[/quote]

I’m not quite sure why you think that just because you have no desire to get married or have kids that you are relegated to being woman less. My bf is 51 and he has been quite clear that he doesn’t want to get married, have kids or even live together…ever. We’ve been together 4 years.

He was upfront with me from the beginning and offered me the opportunity to join him on his journey or not. While it may sound like an asshole move, it was actually quite freeing. The terms were set for what both of us were looking for and the other person knows that any time they feel like more, the door is there. No hard feelings, just a great time was had and now we move on.

No, he doesn’t pay my bills or put me up in an apartment or by me expensive clothes; though he covers my beer when I am with him so that may cost him a small fortune! We each have our own lives and see each other generally every other weekend but speak multiple times a day.

I would be scratched off most people’s list because I am a 37 year old single mother and the stigma is that I am trying to ensnare a man, which is completely not the case. I am dating someone to enhance my already fulfilling life and to look at a relationship as anything else is a recipe for disaster

I think if more guys were upfront about what they wanted, they would avoid the “inevitable trap” of marriage. My bf does not begrudge me the opportunity to get married, it just won’t be to him. Case closed.

In the end, don’t pigeon hole yourself to a particular type. Look beyond what you normally would and you might find something that fits even better. By all accounts, my bf and I should not get along at all, but the intangibles fit perfectly together so life is good. I wish the same for you.[/quote]

Outstanding. Good for both of you.

Sexmachine, consider that when SmilingPolitely was 24, her boyfriend was 38. Does that age differential strike you as particularly “creepy”? According to the aforementioned formula, he should be sticking to women at least 31 and a half years old.

What age do you think one could attain before dating a 24-year-old woman would start registering on your “creepy” radar?

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[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I I guess my life will be pretty much over in ten years or so. What a drag… :([/quote]

Not over, but possibly womanless. [/quote]

Womanless = life over. After serious consideration of the matter that’s how I feel about it. When I look at what really matters that’s all that comes up. Money? Just a means to an end. Same with success. What do you think motivates most the guys here to work out? Forget what they say. It’s all about getting girls. That’s why they do it.[/quote]

I’m not quite sure why you think that just because you have no desire to get married or have kids that you are relegated to being woman less. My bf is 51 and he has been quite clear that he doesn’t want to get married, have kids or even live together…ever. We’ve been together 4 years.

He was upfront with me from the beginning and offered me the opportunity to join him on his journey or not. While it may sound like an asshole move, it was actually quite freeing. The terms were set for what both of us were looking for and the other person knows that any time they feel like more, the door is there. No hard feelings, just a great time was had and now we move on.

No, he doesn’t pay my bills or put me up in an apartment or by me expensive clothes; though he covers my beer when I am with him so that may cost him a small fortune! We each have our own lives and see each other generally every other weekend but speak multiple times a day.

I would be scratched off most people’s list because I am a 37 year old single mother and the stigma is that I am trying to ensnare a man, which is completely not the case. I am dating someone to enhance my already fulfilling life and to look at a relationship as anything else is a recipe for disaster

I think if more guys were upfront about what they wanted, they would avoid the “inevitable trap” of marriage. My bf does not begrudge me the opportunity to get married, it just won’t be to him. Case closed.

In the end, don’t pigeon hole yourself to a particular type. Look beyond what you normally would and you might find something that fits even better. By all accounts, my bf and I should not get along at all, but the intangibles fit perfectly together so life is good. I wish the same for you.[/quote]

Thanks. And that sounds like a really good arrangement. Unfortunately I haven’t been in many long term relationships. Six months or so is about average for me. Sometimes less; sometimes more. I think deep down I really want to have children but I dread the responsibility. My parents sacrificed everything for my brother and I and if I had kids I’d feel pretty much obligated to devote all my energy and resources into raising them.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
So you found a couple of grey hairs in your beard and got all ‘I can’t have sex with old women’ on us…

I dread to think what will happen when you find a grey pube![/quote]

That’s not what it’s about. You’d have to know me a bit better to understand. I’m a family values, social conservative but my own life is quite contrary. I’m not attracted to sensible smart girls either. Always wild girls; girls with gambling problems, crazy drivers - I even dated a girl who was into cocaine in a big way. I don’t know what it is but I’m always chasing the wild ones.

A few years ago I had a bad accident and had a lot of time to think about my life and my future. That’s what prompted these thoughts. I’m concerned about my future and to be honest I don’t think I’m cut out to be a family man.[/quote]

It sounds like you’ll be able to attract the kind of girl you like well into your dotage, so what’s the problem? It sounds like it will all match up very well.

Editing because I meant to say that I can’t see why anyone would care very much whether you pursue a “family man” future aside from perhaps your mother. [/quote]

My parents are deceased. It’s myself that cares. It seems like a personal duty I should fulfil.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I I guess my life will be pretty much over in ten years or so. What a drag… :([/quote]

Not over, but possibly womanless. [/quote]

Womanless = life over. After serious consideration of the matter that’s how I feel about it. When I look at what really matters that’s all that comes up. Money? Just a means to an end. Same with success. What do you think motivates most the guys here to work out? Forget what they say. It’s all about getting girls. That’s why they do it.[/quote]

I’m not quite sure why you think that just because you have no desire to get married or have kids that you are relegated to being woman less. My bf is 51 and he has been quite clear that he doesn’t want to get married, have kids or even live together…ever. We’ve been together 4 years.

He was upfront with me from the beginning and offered me the opportunity to join him on his journey or not. While it may sound like an asshole move, it was actually quite freeing. The terms were set for what both of us were looking for and the other person knows that any time they feel like more, the door is there. No hard feelings, just a great time was had and now we move on.

No, he doesn’t pay my bills or put me up in an apartment or by me expensive clothes; though he covers my beer when I am with him so that may cost him a small fortune! We each have our own lives and see each other generally every other weekend but speak multiple times a day.

I would be scratched off most people’s list because I am a 37 year old single mother and the stigma is that I am trying to ensnare a man, which is completely not the case. I am dating someone to enhance my already fulfilling life and to look at a relationship as anything else is a recipe for disaster

I think if more guys were upfront about what they wanted, they would avoid the “inevitable trap” of marriage. My bf does not begrudge me the opportunity to get married, it just won’t be to him. Case closed.

In the end, don’t pigeon hole yourself to a particular type. Look beyond what you normally would and you might find something that fits even better. By all accounts, my bf and I should not get along at all, but the intangibles fit perfectly together so life is good. I wish the same for you.[/quote]

Outstanding. Good for both of you.

Sexmachine, consider that when SmilingPolitely was 24, her boyfriend was 38. Does that age differential strike you as particularly “creepy”? According to the aforementioned formula, he should be sticking to women at least 31 and a half years old.

What age do you think one could attain before dating a 24-year-old woman would start registering on your “creepy” radar?[/quote]

I don’t know man. I’m just speaking personally here. I’d feel kind of…well, creepy if I was to bed a girl who might be in highschool or just starting college. If it works for other people that’s fine. I just prefer someone roughly my own age.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

Are you doing everything in your power to maximize your desirability and longevity of your desirability?

[/quote]

No. I’m not into miracle creams and whatnot. I just keep in shape.

Yes, although I have to work around injuries so I’m not really able to put on a lot of mass. I do a lot of bodyweight stuff/hyper extension machine etc.

No

Mostly. I drink a bit of alcohol sometimes though.

Add 5% to that right now. As I said, working around injuries. It took me six months to start walking properly. I was pretty fucked up.

Yes

Yes

Yes

I manage my own investments and do pretty well. Don’t really want to go back to uni.

Yes

Yes

Classified

No, my skin is fine. I’m a swarthy, dark, olive skinned Mediterranean/Middle Eastern looking. The sun doesn’t harm my skin. And as I said, I’m not into skin care. That’s female stuff.

There’s a reason why. See above. And as I said, only people of fair skin; ie, those ethnically from Northern Europe have skin problems. If you’re Indian you shouldn’t have to worry about your skin.

No. All the stuff I’m into is way cooler.

I know but in Aus it’s like trying to milk a bull. Doctors don’t like to prescribe it.

I’m not “handicapped”. I have a slight limp that sometimes isn’t there(ie, doesn’t hurt or restrict my movement) and so I can’t run long distances that’s all.

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BTW, when I had my test checked last(about four years ago) it was at the top of the scale; no juice or sups other than protein powder and creatine. I don’t think I’ll need TRT for a while. Anyway thanks for the responses.

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What I’m suggesting as far as skin care is to wash your face daily with a face wash and put on sunscreen when you’re outdoors during the day for long periods. Regardless of race, exposure to UVA and UVB causes skin damage and aging.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:
BTW, when I had my test checked last(about four years ago) it was at the top of the scale; no juice or sups other than protein powder and creatine. I don’t think I’ll need TRT for a while. Anyway thanks for the responses.[/quote]

Good work Thready Krueger.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I think deep down I really want to have children but I dread the responsibility. My parents sacrificed everything for my brother and I and if I had kids I’d feel pretty much obligated to devote all my energy and resources into raising them. [/quote]

It really isn’t an obligation most of the time. You actually enjoy it.

However it’s very important to keep your wife in the front seat of the family car if you know what I mean. A lot of couples end up roommates that raise kids together, and when the kids are older, are left to split.

You want to make sure you are a husband and wife that have kids, not parents that are husband and wife. You know what I mean?

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I thought this was pretty funny. Not bragging as it says more about her than me but I got a date in a couple of short statements/questions:

  1. Hey I saw you here last week right? I’m [my name].

  2. Great crowd eh? No riff raff(sarcasm).

  3. Hey, what are you doing now? Want to come for a drive to…

Score.[/quote]

POIDNH
[/quote]

Whenever I see that acronym, for a split second I read it as “PIIHB”.

But I don’t think SexMachine’s into that sort of thing.

Family values, social conservative, you know.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I I guess my life will be pretty much over in ten years or so. What a drag… :([/quote]

Not over, but possibly womanless. [/quote]

Womanless = life over. After serious consideration of the matter that’s how I feel about it. When I look at what really matters that’s all that comes up. Money? Just a means to an end. Same with success. What do you think motivates most the guys here to work out? Forget what they say. It’s all about getting girls. That’s why they do it.[/quote]

I’m not quite sure why you think that just because you have no desire to get married or have kids that you are relegated to being woman less. My bf is 51 and he has been quite clear that he doesn’t want to get married, have kids or even live together…ever. We’ve been together 4 years.

He was upfront with me from the beginning and offered me the opportunity to join him on his journey or not. While it may sound like an asshole move, it was actually quite freeing. The terms were set for what both of us were looking for and the other person knows that any time they feel like more, the door is there. No hard feelings, just a great time was had and now we move on.

No, he doesn’t pay my bills or put me up in an apartment or by me expensive clothes; though he covers my beer when I am with him so that may cost him a small fortune! We each have our own lives and see each other generally every other weekend but speak multiple times a day.

I would be scratched off most people’s list because I am a 37 year old single mother and the stigma is that I am trying to ensnare a man, which is completely not the case. I am dating someone to enhance my already fulfilling life and to look at a relationship as anything else is a recipe for disaster

I think if more guys were upfront about what they wanted, they would avoid the “inevitable trap” of marriage. My bf does not begrudge me the opportunity to get married, it just won’t be to him. Case closed.

In the end, don’t pigeon hole yourself to a particular type. Look beyond what you normally would and you might find something that fits even better. By all accounts, my bf and I should not get along at all, but the intangibles fit perfectly together so life is good. I wish the same for you.[/quote]

Thanks. And that sounds like a really good arrangement. Unfortunately I haven’t been in many long term relationships. Six months or so is about average for me. Sometimes less; sometimes more. I think deep down I really want to have children but I dread the responsibility. My parents sacrificed everything for my brother and I and if I had kids I’d feel pretty much obligated to devote all my energy and resources into raising them. [/quote]

It’s worth it.
[/quote]

There’s only my brother and myself and my sister-in-law can’t have children so if I don’t the family line is finished. Sounds pretty selfish but I was hoping my brother wouldn’t marry her anyway. I don’t like her. Anyway that’s about all the personal information I wish to share online.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I think deep down I really want to have children but I dread the responsibility. My parents sacrificed everything for my brother and I and if I had kids I’d feel pretty much obligated to devote all my energy and resources into raising them. [/quote]

It really isn’t an obligation most of the time. You actually enjoy it.

However it’s very important to keep your wife in the front seat of the family car if you know what I mean. A lot of couples end up roommates that raise kids together, and when the kids are older, are left to split.

You want to make sure you are a husband and wife that have kids, not parents that are husband and wife. You know what I mean?[/quote]

Not everyone enjoys it; for many people it is an unwanted burden. Those people should not have children.

Not everyone is desirous of a long term intimate relationship. Those people should remain single to prevent punishing the partner with their inevitable unhappiness.

A little self-knowledge goes a long way.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I think deep down I really want to have children but I dread the responsibility. My parents sacrificed everything for my brother and I and if I had kids I’d feel pretty much obligated to devote all my energy and resources into raising them. [/quote]

It really isn’t an obligation most of the time. You actually enjoy it.

However it’s very important to keep your wife in the front seat of the family car if you know what I mean. A lot of couples end up roommates that raise kids together, and when the kids are older, are left to split.

You want to make sure you are a husband and wife that have kids, not parents that are husband and wife. You know what I mean?[/quote]

Not everyone enjoys it; for many people it is an unwanted burden. Those people should not have children.

Not everyone is desirous of a long term intimate relationship. Those people should remain single to prevent punishing the partner with their inevitable unhappiness.

A little self-knowledge goes a long way.[/quote]

I was riffing off his admitted desire for them, meaning he’ll fit into my targeted demographic.

I don’t however disagree with your points.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
There is no greater feeling on the face of the earth than your young daughter running up to meet after you’ve been gone and jumping in your arms for your welcome-home hug. No greater feeling than wrasslin’ your young son on the living room floor after supper and listen to him giggle with joy when he pins you down.

[/quote]

Unequivocally this.