[quote]lixy wrote:
pat wrote:
It appears that they are so concerned with the afterlife that this current one has no value to them what-so-ever.
What “current one”? The one where they are oppressed and humiliated? The one where they’re crammed in open-air prisons? Where everyone has been terrorized by IDF raids as a child? Where every last one of them has lost a loved one because of the occupation? Where they have no food, water or prospects for the future?
[quote]lixy wrote:
pat wrote:
It appears that they are so concerned with the afterlife that this current one has no value to them what-so-ever.
What “current one”? The one where they are oppressed and humiliated? The one where they’re crammed in open-air prisons? Where everyone has been terrorized by IDF raids as a child? Where every last one of them has lost a loved one because of the occupation? Where they have no food, water or prospects for the future?
You can be the most secular on the planet and, if the conditions are right, you will still consider sacrificing your pitiful existence for the sake of your community. It ain’t got much to do with afterlife in this case, as much as it is about the lack of a decent life down here.[/quote]
Well then - maybe they should just accept their fate. I mean with out any food or water, they can only live about 4-5 days.
Or were you lying to make your sob story sound believable?
Fuck the palestinian terrorists. They deserve every damn deadbody that the Israelis kill. Israel has been to lenient on them. They are an infestation of vermin.
[quote]lixy wrote:
pat wrote:
It appears that they are so concerned with the afterlife that this current one has no value to them what-so-ever.
What “current one”? The one where they are oppressed and humiliated? The one where they’re crammed in open-air prisons? Where everyone has been terrorized by IDF raids as a child? Where every last one of them has lost a loved one because of the occupation? Where they have no food, water or prospects for the future?
You can be the most secular on the planet and, if the conditions are right, you will still consider sacrificing your pitiful existence for the sake of your community. It ain’t got much to do with afterlife in this case, as much as it is about the lack of a decent life down here.[/quote]
It has everything to do with their perceptions of afterlife. These douchebags are inordinately apt at killing each other and making their own lives miserable.
[i]“We are going to win, because they love life and we love death,” said Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah. He has also said: “[E]ach of us lives his days and nights hoping more than anything to be killed for the sake of Allah.” Shortly after 9/11, Osama bin Laden told a reporter: “We love death. The U.S. loves life. That is the big difference between us.”
“The Americans love Pepsi-Cola, we love death,” explained Afghani al Qaeda operative Maulana Inyadullah. Sheik Feiz Mohammed, leader of the Global Islamic Youth Center in Sydney, Australia, preached: “We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid.” Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said in a speech: “It is the zenith of honor for a man, a young person, boy or girl, to be prepared to sacrifice his life in order to serve the interests of his nation and his religion.”[/i]
There can be no peace with people like this. These are LEADERS!
[i]“We are going to win, because they love life and we love death,” said Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah. He has also said: “[E]ach of us lives his days and nights hoping more than anything to be killed for the sake of Allah.” Shortly after 9/11, Osama bin Laden told a reporter: “We love death. The U.S. loves life. That is the big difference between us.”
“The Americans love Pepsi-Cola, we love death,” explained Afghani al Qaeda operative Maulana Inyadullah. Sheik Feiz Mohammed, leader of the Global Islamic Youth Center in Sydney, Australia, preached: “We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid.” Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said in a speech: “It is the zenith of honor for a man, a young person, boy or girl, to be prepared to sacrifice his life in order to serve the interests of his nation and his religion.”[/i]
There can be no peace with people like this. These are LEADERS!
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I have heard so talk before from Islamic leaders…I think you are right in that there is no peace possible with these people in general. They seek conflict in order to achieve the goal of dying a martyr; that is the only reasonable conclusion. Only thing we can do is continue to beat them back if they encroach on our hedonistic ways.
They love death, well, we can’t kill them all, and I wouldn’t want to if we could. Just be cause they think it’s wonderful doesn’t make it right.
This is why hamas tows the “destroy Israel” mantra. They know it can’t and won’t happen, but it is a way to stay in conflict.
Ever notice when things get to peaceful between Israel and the palestinians, the palestinians always do some sort of terror attack to shake things up? It sure ain’t no accident or coincidence.
They invent shit to bitch about to create conflict…What a bunch of tards.
[i]“We are going to win, because they love life and we love death,” said Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah. He has also said: “[E]ach of us lives his days and nights hoping more than anything to be killed for the sake of Allah.” Shortly after 9/11, Osama bin Laden told a reporter: “We love death. The U.S. loves life. That is the big difference between us.”
“The Americans love Pepsi-Cola, we love death,” explained Afghani al Qaeda operative Maulana Inyadullah. Sheik Feiz Mohammed, leader of the Global Islamic Youth Center in Sydney, Australia, preached: “We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid.” Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said in a speech: “It is the zenith of honor for a man, a young person, boy or girl, to be prepared to sacrifice his life in order to serve the interests of his nation and his religion.”[/i]
There can be no peace with people like this. These are LEADERS!
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I said long ago that Islam is a religion of death. The practioners resemble the Necromongers in the ‘Chronicles of Riddick’, starring Vin Diesel.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
lixy wrote:
pat wrote:
It appears that they are so concerned with the afterlife that this current one has no value to them what-so-ever.
What “current one”? The one where they are oppressed and humiliated? The one where they’re crammed in open-air prisons? Where everyone has been terrorized by IDF raids as a child? Where every last one of them has lost a loved one because of the occupation? Where they have no food, water or prospects for the future?
You can be the most secular on the planet and, if the conditions are right, you will still consider sacrificing your pitiful existence for the sake of your community. It ain’t got much to do with afterlife in this case, as much as it is about the lack of a decent life down here.
Well then - maybe they should just accept their fate. I mean with out any food or water, they can only live about 4-5 days.
Or were you lying to make your sob story sound believable?
Fuck the palestinian terrorists. They deserve every damn deadbody that the Israelis kill. Israel has been to lenient on them. They are an infestation of vermin.
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I’m in the living room of a family friend, a Jewish woman who emigrated from Poland. The subject changes from yoga to Israel-Palestine, and I tell her that I think America needs to change its foreign policy towards Israel. She says, “In what way, so that the Arabs will throw the Jews into the sea?” It takes four minutes of back and forth for the conversation to further degenerate. She finally says, “Look, what I have to say isn’t pretty, but I’m not afraid. I’m going to say it anyways. The Palestinians are nothing but vermin. They make trouble in every country they live in. Even the other Arab countries don’t want them.”
I take a deep breath. I’ve heard this before, except with “Jews” instead of “Palestinians.” Jews are vermin. They make trouble in every country they live in.
One of the opening shots of the film shows a pack of rats emerging from a sewer, juxtaposed with a crowd of Jews in a bustling Polish street. Close-ups of individuals show sickly, malformed facial features. The narration explains how just as rats are the vermin of the animal kingdom, Jews are the vermin of the human race and similarly spread disease and corruption
The Nazi Germans during the Holocaust projected their hatred for the Jews projecting them as vermin or rats. They equated the presence of Jews in this world as an infestation of rats. The techniques used in Holocaust to eliminate millions of Jews were similar to those used in extermination and disinfection of actual infestations of pests and rodents. The Nazi Germans used fumigation, poison gas, showers, cremation and like procedures in their genocide of the Jews. Concentration camps were turned into and referred to as fumigation barracks.
Wikipedia says �??demonizing�?? is to facilitate oppressive actions against the demonized individual or group. Demonizing an individual, group or culture generally involves a suspension of the normal considerations of humane behavior and respect. Given that the subjects that are demonized are portrayed as evil and/or subhuman beyond any dispute, then any means of action in self-defense is considered legitimate, in proportion to the threat represented.
In United States history, a note-worthy example of demonizing is to be found in the attitudes and practices of White people towards Black people in the period 1619-1965, epitomized in the widespread practice of lynching. Originally, lynching meant any extra-judicial punishment, often flogging, including tarring and feathering and running out of town. But during the 19th century, it began to be used in the United States to refer specifically to execution of black people by hanging.
Demonizing of individuals according to Wikipedia helps to divert attention from their arguments, and discredit them personally by ad hominem attacks. Those attacks undermine individuals with controversial views, and isolate them from public support. An ad hominem argument is a reply to an argument by attacking the person making the argument, rather than by addressing the substance of his argument. It is a personal attack on an argument’s proponent in an attempt to discredit that argument.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Phate, name an attack on Palestinians that was not precipitated by an attack on Israel.[/quote]
The original taking of their land by Zionists?
It is not as if the first generation of Israelis did not openly admit that.
�??If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?�??
David Ben-Gurion
(Polish born Israeli Statesman and Prime Minister (1948-53, 1955-63). Chief architect of the state of Israel and revered as Father of the Nation, 1886-1973)
I don’t give a fuck what you think I am. I mean, coming from a pro-terrorist, anti-US piece of shit like you - I would be insulted if you agreed with anything I had to say.
Oh…citing wiki is a sure sign you have nothing to say.
I am sure that won’t stop you from clinging to it, however.
[quote]orion wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
Phate, name an attack on Palestinians that was not precipitated by an attack on Israel.
The original taking of their land by Zionists?
It is not as if the first generation of Israelis did not openly admit that.
�??If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?�??
David Ben-Gurion
(Polish born Israeli Statesman and Prime Minister (1948-53, 1955-63). Chief architect of the state of Israel and revered as Father of the Nation, 1886-1973)[/quote]
Israel too k nothing. It was given to them by the British.
Learn to be relevant, dickweed. You are nothing more than another lixy.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
Phate, name an attack on Palestinians that was not precipitated by an attack on Israel.
The original taking of their land by Zionists?
It is not as if the first generation of Israelis did not openly admit that.
�??If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?�??
David Ben-Gurion
(Polish born Israeli Statesman and Prime Minister (1948-53, 1955-63). Chief architect of the state of Israel and revered as Father of the Nation, 1886-1973)
Israel too k nothing. It was given to them by the British.
Learn to be relevant, dickweed. You are nothing more than another lixy. [/quote]
The Israelis most certainly did take Arab land, and Israeli atrocities helped drive the Palestinians out in the first place. The Ben-Gurion quote above is genuine.