You are entitled to your opinion. We can agree to disagree and still be friends.
This, I 100% agree with.
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Both are true
I see people use that as an excuse to not eat for their goals, unfortunately
I don’t disagree. I have told many clients that they either need to change their approach or change their goal. It’s the harsh reality of the game.
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Exactly… I basically stopped taking on new trainees because they simply never “show up,” … constant excuses, no dedication, want to eat whatever they want…. I explain its a lifestyle change, not a quick fix. But people are too content being slobs.
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Funny enough, this is WHY I settled on carnivore. I was obsessed with food, my whole life revolved around buying it, cooking it, eating it, cleaning up after it, and passing it (poorly). It consumed (pun partially intended) my life, and was negatively impacting my relationships with people. I was juggling too many balls: trying to keep my protein high with my carbs low but I also couldn’t have my saturated fats too high so I just torpedoed all my fats so I had to go to 4 different grocery stores a week to find all my weird freaky non-foods and while making sure I ate every few hours to keep my metabolism humming and blah blah.
I went Velocity Diet as a nuclear option and got to just hit the rest button, and from there carnivore gave me the simplest nutritional flowchart ever. Is it an animal/from an animal? Cool: eat it. If not: don’t.
People see it as restrictive, and for me it’s totally the opposite: I’m free FROM food. It no longer controls me: I just eat animals when I’m hungry and stop when I’m not, and next time I’m hungry I know what I’m going to eat. The fact I’ve managed to overcome 38 years of ALWAYS being hungry and can finally painlessly fast is like a superpower on top of it all.
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I was going to say this too.
What I’ve understood, human body is great for using both (carbs and fats) as energy sources. This is partly why we’ve ”thrived” across the globe.
Argument of certain foods having certain nutritions don’t really mean anything, since people rarely ate just one stuff for weeks (it’s possible that hunter gatherers already had meals where somebody cathered some fruits, other nuts and couple guys hunted down couple rabbits for example). Archeological studies suggest we were mixed eaters anyway.
I believe this is a common mistake many people do. We have actually reasonable amount of data to suggest that lower frequency of meals might generally be better for health (and that’s not surprising even from evolutionary perspective).
I personally tend to feel better with lower meal frequency. It’s also good way to regulate your eating. You have to eat proper food if you want to feel good several hours afterwards.
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Oh no joke: eating frequency has become ridiculous. People eat something like 18 times a day these days. The fact we have a snack food industry speaks to how infectious this has become.
Outstanding post… really lends perspective on how addictive food can be
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Supplement industry bro science is strong, unfortunately
For me, it wasn’t food addiction at all. I HATED eating, because everything I was eating wasn’t what I wanted. I just wanted meat, but was told it was bad for me and killing me, and everything I was eating in place of meat was just killing me.
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I think this is absolutely the key to all of it, as we basically keep reiterating in this (and other) threads. I liked carnivore as an eye-opening experiment (and realized some foods that really didn’t sit well with me after eliminating), but I actually didn’t want to do it forever because I had to think (my least favorite). Oddly, it’s more comfortable for me to eyeball portion sizes of certain foods and build a plate - I just feel in control. I like these little nuances in approach, because we’re actually more alike than different even though on the surface it appears to be totally different diets.
I think so too. I really think it comes from a bit of a misunderstanding of what big dudes were doing (although I’m happy to be corrected on the causal relationship). In my mind, big dudes had to eat a ton of calories to outgrow normal people. Eating a ton at once made them feel bad/ have to frequently buy new underpants. Adding a meal here and there was more comfortable, and they didn’t feel as full all the time (duh), so they (or the observer) decided there was more going on than just “it hurts your guts less to not overfill multiple times a day.”
I like your approach to this concept, because I feel similarly and I pretty much always agree with myself. Two things can be true: modern Frankenfoods are awful for everything in our system and there was no single archaeological diet/ macro breakdown, which stands to reason when eating for survival vs performance.
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Extreme diets like carnivore can give quick results but aren’t always sustainable. Your best diet is one that gives you energy, meets your nutrient needs, and works long term
I understand and having a diet that rid you of these issues is great. I have been mindful of what I eat for a very long time, and as you know, I work in nutrition. I am not obsessed with food, but yes, cooking, preparing, and cleaning does take a chunk of my time, especially because I do nearly all of the cooking and food shopping for my family.
I never did Velocity, but used Lyle McDonald’s guidelines for a PSMF, his Rapid Fat Loss Diet. I lost 25 pounds in five weeks in the late aughts. My wife lost 30 pounds when she tried it in 2012.
Very good. For me, I’ve concluded I simply was not eating enough, even though it seemed as if I was. And I concluded that I wasn’t because I was quickly hungry after some of my four daily meals, and would feel incapable at around 3:00 PM. I haven’t counted calories and macros since my contest prep in 2016. I do portion control and follow the guidelines in Precision Nutrition for it. I simply increased my portions by a bit. And although no one would consider me fat, I am fatter, and feel much better. I admit that part of the neuroticism with eating was because of appearance, which was unneeded (and yes, vain) because I am not a fat person.
I’ve come to the conclusion, congruent with Jeff Nippard, though it cannot be proven, that people’s fat set points for well being are individual. Some people can be very lean or bulk up heavily and have no bad effects. Others are in the middle, where getting too lean has them tired and hungry and getting too fat has them feeling sluggish and clumsy; this is where I am at. Getting very lean for me requires too much sacrifice in time and lack of well-being. So I will take love handles, “semblance of abs,” and feeling good.
I still want to try Carnivore… some day.
Recent gym pics.
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Ya…Carnivore