T’s…some convo on the off topic session has generated a question in me…this applies to everyones lean gain phases…what non-fibrous, high glycemic carbs does everyone use post-workout or do you not use them at all…for example, i mentioned i ate rice cakes to get insulin a bit up and refill muscle glycogen (and I got blasted)…is there any benefit to drinking a glucose polymer drink over the cakes? I mean if they jack insulin to the same levels, does it really matter?..reason being, during lean gain, obviously we want a caloric excess…lots of fiber does not necessarily create the best caloric excess (even though it creates a much more fat-safe insulin response)becuase it does not provide the usual additional calories from which to synthesize the muscle tissue…not only that, we jack up fiber to 100g or so, and you risk having other good shit not digested.
Just some other things i thought i would mention: I know damaged muscle tissues are not as sensitive to glucose, so, say after a really tweaked workout, do we want to hit carbs for the most part at all...or would simple whey do the trick?...what does the medical research (if any say)...even if the muscle tissue is damaged..wouldn't it take the carbs to at least refill its glycogen load?
Also, saw some people posting about “carb-ups” or cheat days…
from my experience, i just want to add what i know from personal experience and hitting the journals hard…
if you are dieting good enough to rip up…(~500+defict a day, but no greater than 1,000)…a carb up DAY is NOT necessarily going to jack the metabolism back up…from the research i have read, esp. the infamous Minnesota study, it takes around five days or so for metabolism to adjust…thus, the carb up or cheat just might halt catabolism, which you don’t necessarily want on a fat-loss phase, esp if you carb with high glycemic stuff
As an example, i do keto (carbs under 30) for three week cycles with NO carb up at approx 2300-2400kcal/day (3100 is my maintenance)...the carb up does really nothing in terms of ffm losses..as long as you diet very strict with the right supps, (i.e., MCT, a good fat-burner [I use Met-Rx thermicore]) you can be very effetive at sparting lean tissue...also, new study i just found suggests that eating more later towards night in a fat-loss phase causes less weight to be lost overall, BUT preserves more lean mass..makes sense since GH is going crazy towards night...and if we are starting diet at modest levels of bf% this is exactly what we want.
Finally one last thought…(this based on personal experience)…if we diet hard-core enough to actually lower metabolism, it might actually spur solid and more easy lean mass gains since a lesser caloric excess will add to more lean gain (assuming we are lifting)…not only that, but keep in mind since the body adjusts after approx five days or so, you have a very good window from some theoretical lean gain (in me it happened) if you eat clean and strict.
sorry for rambling.
Vain
