Carbs vs Ketones vs Blood type

#What im trying to say is are these different diets safe, tested and right for everyone? The classic 60/25/15 etc diets with carbs for energy have never hurt anyone have they?
#Has anyone read D’Adamos Eat right for your type? (the one about the blood type diet) There is much critisism about there being no studies done on it. Is the pages of references not good enough.

For the love of God, Rik, start reading T-mag now.

“The classic 60/25/15 ect diet with carbs for energy have never hurt anyone have they?” Well I believe the answer is yes they certainly have. Obesity and diabetes is at an all time high in North America, but calorie consumption is down on average by about 200 calories/day. Fat consumption is also lower than it was 30 years ago. So what’s the culprit? it’s no great mystery, just look at 90% of the food choices in a grocery store. The overwhelming majority of North Americans are living on highly processed carbohydrate foods. It is’nt steak, milk, eggs, edct. that are making North Americans fat and sick, it’s breakfast cereal, pop tarts, toaster strudels and the like. What could be worse than a little flour and sugar bound together with a little hydrogenated coconut oil. Carbs never hurt anyone before processed food existed. Think about it, 500 years ago your carb choices were fruits, vegetables, roots and anything else you could forage for. The average person could’nt afford finely ground flour. The Inuit (eskimos) of northern Canada lived for centuries on virtually nothing but whale, seal, caribou and fish. Basically a ketogenic diet. They did’nt have any obesity or diabetes until they were intorduced to a “civilized” diet about 60 years ago. I think it’s kind of humerous when someone eats a diet of nothing but meats, fiberous vegetables and a little fruit and nuts along with healthy fats, and gets accused of being on a “dangerous hi protein” diet. With fiberous veggies you can eat so much more food volume wise with tons of nutrients while keeping the carb count reasonable. The same can’t be said for bagels, pasta and sugary foods.

Rik, you’re a funny one. I’m sorry you’re not gonna get much support for your dogmatic views here, a lot of us actually care to see the research and science of things. Just because the government pushes the food pyramid doesn’t mean it’s automatically the right way to eat. In fact, I think the government has really screwed up a lot of people’s lives (the sheep, anyway) by their ‘fat is bad’ message.
‘Carbs for energy’- ha. If you’re not aware, you can use fat and protein for energy too.

If I would eat like that I would get fat. I tried it already. Everyone is not the same. I get fat when I eat too many carbs, that’s why I eat a 40P/30C/30F diet. People respond differently to diets. One set diet is not going to work for everyone.

magnus where do you get the idea that americans are eating 200kcals less??
Data fro NHANES III show that americans are eating ~200kcals MORE each day, with a slight bit less intake of fat (similar grams, lower % because energy increases)
And these are underestimates, but then again so should all the NHANES data due to ‘under-reporting’

You are right Rik. The food pyramid is a good guide, and one can build a healthy diet from that. It is not the food pyramid or following government information that is making people fat. The government provides sensible information on the subject of nutrition. Japanese people have a higher carb percentage than the US government recommends, and there are not high rates of obesity or diabetes there. Certainly there is more information than what the government provides, but you people are giving the govt. a bad rap on this one. The govt. isn’t out to find the nutritional requirements to get 18 inch arms, they set guidelines for a healthy diet to help prevent major killers like heart disease and cancer.

I won’t even comment on your statement that high carb diets never hurt anyone(!?)… for your own benefit you may like to read the following review on Eat Right 4 Your Type:
http://www.westonaprice.org/ book_reviews/eat_right.html

What you may find is that, as with most things in life, including diet, one mans food is another mans poison. If you want to look into the topic of diet to suit different individuals, based on ancestry, blood type, inheritance, etc, then definitely get hold METABOLIC TYPING DIET by William Wolcott. I would personallt say that it si the single most complete book available on diet, and it will really get you thinking! It makes sense that people thrive on foods that have grown in their regions for thousands of years. Equatorial people may tolerate more carbs, fruits etc…the eskimos thrive on a high fat and protein diet. With gene poold mixing so much, it makes it more awkward to determine, but there are tests that can be performed and questionairres we can consult and answer. Check out the book!

Rik I tried the blood type diet to see it’s effects. I am type O. I came to it in a round about way. I was using the Anabolic Diet and for the first week I had no problem adjusting to it, so I thought I must be doing something wrong. I followed it to the letter. During that week I happened across D’Adamos book and according to him I should be eating like this anyway. That made me think that maybe blood type was the reason I had no problem adjusting to the Anabolic Diet. Out of curiosity I asked everyone I worked with what they ate, how it affected them, and their Blood type. This was about thirty people. Interestingly enough eveyone one of the vegetarians were type A. This was a far from scientific study, but I thought it intersting. I also found that almost all the foods on my avoid list I didn’t like. When I did use it I didn’t find alot of difference, except I dropped about 5lbs and I could see more definition in my abs. My Tanita said my bf had gone to 7% from 10% in 10 days. I’m guessing it was mostly water change from low carb. My wife is type A and she can not handle dairy or much meat. Does this mean anything? Who knows. It is interesting and I would like to see more study on it.

I meant to say my bf went from 10% to 7%.