[quote]Alpha F wrote:
I have similar results as you mentioned in other post ( appearing leaner and up between 4-6 pounds on the scale, harder, and definitely more vascular ).
My question to you is: do you take the Carbolin 19 at the same time as the Indigo-3G? And do you experience this appetite increase an hour into working out or is it in an hour any time you take the Carbolin 19?
I ask because the Carbolin 19 did help me train harder and I attributed increased appetite to being able to exert more strength into my workouts.
Also, when I tried the Indigo-3G, I just had to eat and I was not training at all.[/quote]
I actually take my Carbolin 19 about 10 minutes after I take Indigo-3G. I notice the increased hunger any time I take Carbolin 19 lately.
[quote]corstijeir wrote:
Bill I’ve just finished my first bottle of Carbolin 19 after finishing up 3 bottles of Alpha Male ran 7 days a week across the 3 bottles.
On the Carbolin 19 I’ve noticed
my hands are sweating a lot
I get increased appetite usually about an hour after taking Carbolin 19.
I’m also currently aiming to increase muscle mass directly and less recomp.( I’m also on Indigo-3G )
My plan once I finish this 2nd bottle of Carbolin 19 is to do 2 tablets Carbolin 19 in the AM
2 Alpha Male pre workout, 2 Alpha Male post workout.
I really like the idea behind Carbolin 19 and the longer one uses it, the better it works IMO.[/quote]
That should be a good plan. The shorter half-life of the forskolin (Carbolin 19 base) in the Alpha Male will work fine with this dosing protocol.
Alpha Male uses forskolin. It is in the base, or unesterified form. The particular high-purity extract that is used is referred to on the label as Carbolin 19 base.
Carbolin 19 is in the Carbolin 19 product and in HOT-ROX. It differs from forskolin base in that it is the 1,9 carbonate ester of forskolin, which provides it with an extended duration of action, while forskolin itself which has a fairly short duration of action.
The result is that Carbolin 19 allows high, sustained levels, whereas forskolin itself can provide a high peak, but with shorter duration and less total effect.
Thought I would chime in here, as I am around the 2-week mark into my Carbolin 19 experiment.
I am also taking Seven at twice the recommended dose.
Currently NOT taking Indigo.
I wish I would have done the experiment a bit better, but I was coming off a layoff so my gains are probably not typical. While keeping my bodyweight constant, I have gotten leaner and definitely appear denser and more vascular. My skin in my arms, calves, and shoulders is actually starting to take on an almost-transparent nature under certain lighting conditions.
Although I am hesitant to claim that Carbolin 19 is a key factor to my recent progress, I do have to say that it has allowed me to surpass last-years peak level of leanness under almost-identical conditions in a VERY short amount of time. I am sold, and will probably start to alternate between cycles of Indigo and Carbolin 19/Seven.
Generally speaking, unless very lean in the first place it’s essentially impossible to discern fat changes of less than about two pounds, and for persons that are substantially overfat changes may need to be as much as 4 lb to be clearly discernible. Similarly with muscle gain: A pound of muscle, while actually significant, is not necessarily readily discernible. Instead what tends to happen is that after a number of incremental improvements of that order, then “suddenly” substantial improvement is noticed.
For evaluating effect on body composition, for any product, a month allows a better evaluation.
However it’s not impossible that after a week you’d notice an effect.
Probably yes unless fat loss is a particular goal and there isn’t intensive dieting already. (If dieting intensively already, then it could be fine to eat somewhat but not drastically more.)
When taking test boosters such as a daa would Carbolin 19 be stacked with it? I am looking into ordering some and want to take it properly to maximize its benefits.
It can properly be used very well alone, and so depending on the circumstance it may not be necessary to add anything, but in your example, with test boosters in general it works well, referring to herbal products. With DAA though, I don’t know. I’d expect the body composition benefits to remain, but I don’t know whether there would be further T-boosting past the effect of DAA itself, simply from not having data or outcomes to say.
I noticed that HOT-ROX contains Carbolin 19 in it already and the actual bottle of Carbolin 19 says not to take any stimulants with it. Does anyone know if its safe to stack HOT-ROX and Carbolin 19?