Was going to post something in disagreement, but i think I’ll just see my way out from this part of the forums. It’s like credentialed bro science over here.
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Same. 
I can’t even figure out how to start though. It’s like trying to debate a flat-earther.
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High intensity exercise, such as weight training, utilizes glucose primarily stored as glycogen in the liver and muscles that comes from carbohydrates.
But as a rebuttal
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Strange replies (yours and the previous one) for such a simple discussion about carbohydrates and muscle growth.
Do you think different perspectives are always strange? Or just when it pertains to carbs and muscle building?
I found this video to be super motivating while I was doing Deep Water! That diet and training plan broke me through a plateau I’d reached that got me from 184 to 192 in 8 weeks. Funny, going from high carb and low volume training to low carb and high volume training busted me through a major plateau.
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So awesome to hear dude! Marty Gallagher talks about the need for those extremes for balance
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I think the whole experience taught me a very valuable lesson in periodization and the awesome effect it has on preventing stagnation. I believe this follows Jim Wendler’s Leaders and Anchors concept as well.
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No, I think comparing this discussion to that of debating a flat earther to be a strange reply along with calling this forum like credentialed bro science.
I find it strange that you, in all your prowess, think you know what Frank Zane needed to do better in his bodybuilding career.
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I think it’s a great analogy. Flat-earthers have conviction in their very narrow worldview despite centuries of scientific expertise saying otherwise. Likewise, you are making a claim through a very pigeon-holed ideology of bodybuilding, namely high carb dieting + HIT, despite decades of so many of the greats experiencing unprecedented success in their time using a multitude of very different approaches.
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Well, it seems to me the anti-carb group have become the new cult, 
I don’t think any of us are really stymied by the recommended approach (HIT/ high-carb), but the analysis that got some of the posters there is confusing. “Frank Zane was 3x the best bodybuilder on the planet during the golden age of bodybuilding; he missed his potential by not eating and training this way.” Do you see why that reads a little strange?
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Same here … when I finally let go of my one way of training / eating of very low volume / higher carb, I was able to start making gains again after being stuck for years … I was so fucking bull headed. Never saw this Deep Water guy before but thanks to T3hPwnisher for posting it. 
I have to check out more of his stuff.
I’m not faulting HIT / high carbs for my plateau I got stuck at for so many years , it was because of MY unwillingness to try something different. Being so stubborn and set is NOT the way to go about anything.
I’m still getting a kick out of Zane fucking up his career because he didn’t eat enough spaghetti and pancakes. I guess he could have had two at least more Olympias if he did 
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I was the opposite…for many years i was high protein and/or high fat with little to no carbs
I followed the low carb hype and cult
I was fat, blood numbers were terrible, had digestive issues and energy sucked
When i went to 50/25/25 (carbs/fat/protein), lost weight (not where i want to be yet, but am getting there), blood numbers are good, no more digestive issues and am full of energy
to each their own i guess
As for Zane…he won 3x Mr. Olympia…not gonna question his methods of getting there
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Uhh…
That tricep is sticking out the back like an additional appendage.
Thats not pushing or angling. That is just massive tricep.
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I think you gents are nailing it: when something isn’t working, try another thing!
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Stop worshipping these bodybuilders. They are not as smart as you think. Most of them have great results because of great genetics…and drugs.
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I don’t. You should stop worshipping a book written 35 years ago
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