Carb Back Loading

[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
So I have a question, I’ll be traveling from this sunday till tuesday. Ideas for low carb food to eat whilst driving?[/quote]
Only the standard fare. Jerky. Protein shakes. Cold Chicken/Salads. Nuts maybe if youre not worried about a few carbs.

Why not just stop at a few KFCs and get a bucket of chicken? Obviously avoiding the drinks/fries/desserts etc.

Glitch has it covered. burgers sans bun? steak and veggies?

do you guys add dextrose etc… to your pwo shakes, or just have whole food carbs post training?

[quote]tork94 wrote:
do you guys add dextrose etc… to your pwo shakes, or just have whole food carbs post training?[/quote]

For me it depends on the day. But some days yes and some days no. I havent noticed a difference having it or not

[quote]tork94 wrote:
do you guys add dextrose etc… to your pwo shakes, or just have whole food carbs post training?[/quote]
I dont do PWO shakes. Solid food PWO. May change this when I start having trouble adding calories on a bulk, but atm I am cutting/recomping.

been carb-backloading since january now, went from 211 to 189 this morning. love it, as for my lifts, im struggling a bit on bench but i attribute that more to poor training here than weight loss as my deadlift squat and military press have all increased. great thread here

[quote]xfactor3236 wrote:
been carb-backloading since january now, went from 211 to 189 this morning. love it, as for my lifts, im struggling a bit on bench but i attribute that more to poor training here than weight loss as my deadlift squat and military press have all increased. great thread here [/quote]
Why do you think your training is poor? If your military is going up you bench should be as well. Do you take coconut oil preworkout? Id highly suggest it if you arent.

[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:

[quote]xfactor3236 wrote:
been carb-backloading since january now, went from 211 to 189 this morning. love it, as for my lifts, im struggling a bit on bench but i attribute that more to poor training here than weight loss as my deadlift squat and military press have all increased. great thread here [/quote]
Why do you think your training is poor? If your military is going up you bench should be as well. Do you take coconut oil preworkout? Id highly suggest it if you arent. [/quote]

over estimated bench marks, im doing the juggernaut program right now. did 5/3/1 for a few month prior both solid programs to say the least. but i hit a bad plateau at the end of 5/3/1 due to pride and really over extending myself in bench. had maxed out at 330 but i wastrying to move up in weight just too fast and it hurt me in the long run. however at the start of juggernaut i still used that 330 as my bench mark when i more realisticly was around 315 ish. gonna start my secong cycle of juggernaut next week and start from scratch on bench. and no i dont take coconut oil

[quote]xfactor3236 wrote:

[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:

[quote]xfactor3236 wrote:
been carb-backloading since january now, went from 211 to 189 this morning. love it, as for my lifts, im struggling a bit on bench but i attribute that more to poor training here than weight loss as my deadlift squat and military press have all increased. great thread here [/quote]
Why do you think your training is poor? If your military is going up you bench should be as well. Do you take coconut oil preworkout? Id highly suggest it if you arent. [/quote]

over estimated bench marks, im doing the juggernaut program right now. did 5/3/1 for a few month prior both solid programs to say the least. but i hit a bad plateau at the end of 5/3/1 due to pride and really over extending myself in bench. had maxed out at 330 but i wastrying to move up in weight just too fast and it hurt me in the long run. however at the start of juggernaut i still used that 330 as my bench mark when i more realisticly was around 315 ish. gonna start my secong cycle of juggernaut next week and start from scratch on bench. and no i dont take coconut oil
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Sounds like you know where you went wrong then. Pretty strong at that weight too!

The reason I brought up Coconut Oil is because prior to going fully CBL I was messing around with Leangains. I started losing strength and read an article by Kiefer (might have been Hulk Factor, I forget). Tried Coconut Oil preworkout and saw my strength return. Thats when I decided to start CBL fully. So Id suggest it if you start to feel a bit sluggish in the gym after low carbing all day.

[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:

[quote]xfactor3236 wrote:

[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:

[quote]xfactor3236 wrote:
been carb-backloading since january now, went from 211 to 189 this morning. love it, as for my lifts, im struggling a bit on bench but i attribute that more to poor training here than weight loss as my deadlift squat and military press have all increased. great thread here [/quote]
Why do you think your training is poor? If your military is going up you bench should be as well. Do you take coconut oil preworkout? Id highly suggest it if you arent. [/quote]

over estimated bench marks, im doing the juggernaut program right now. did 5/3/1 for a few month prior both solid programs to say the least. but i hit a bad plateau at the end of 5/3/1 due to pride and really over extending myself in bench. had maxed out at 330 but i wastrying to move up in weight just too fast and it hurt me in the long run. however at the start of juggernaut i still used that 330 as my bench mark when i more realisticly was around 315 ish. gonna start my secong cycle of juggernaut next week and start from scratch on bench. and no i dont take coconut oil
[/quote]
Sounds like you know where you went wrong then. Pretty strong at that weight too!

The reason I brought up Coconut Oil is because prior to going fully CBL I was messing around with Leangains. I started losing strength and read an article by Kiefer (might have been Hulk Factor, I forget). Tried Coconut Oil preworkout and saw my strength return. Thats when I decided to start CBL fully. So Id suggest it if you start to feel a bit sluggish in the gym after low carbing all day. [/quote]

oh shit do i know that feeling. ill have to check it out then, appreciate the advice

7:00 wake up
8:00-12:00 tea with stevia - 4g arbs
12:00 Shake with pb - 16g carbs
14:00 fiber shake + joint pills
15:00 GYM

Standing calf raise: 150x10, 150x10, 150x10, 150x10, 150x10, 150x10

Incline DB bench: 60x10, 70x10, 80x10

Flat DB, 80x12, 80x12

Machine fly: 100x20, 115x20

SMith machine flat bench: 185x8, 235x6, 235x6/185x10

Heavy side laterals: 45x8, 45x8
SS
Rear delt swings: 45x50, 45x50

Machine rear delt: 125x15, 125x15, 90x35

Over and backs (overhead press just enough to bring bar to back of head, press to bring back over to front. Rinse and repeat): 65x10, 95x10, 95x10

17:45 2 bananas, 3 scoops protein - 50g carbs
18:20 10oz chicken, 10oz rice, bbq sauce - 100g carbs
18:45 Granola and yoghurt - 220g carbs
21:00 Churro - 50g carbs

TOTAL: 440g carbs

I have Carb Nite and don’t want to shell out some more money for CBL as I’m broke.

From what I read so far, CNS is just the same as CBL except for the number of backloads or carb-nites (CNS calls for only once every 4 day span). Is this assessment correct?

Also if you guys would help a brother out, what would be good macros for a 150lb powerlifter (about 15-18%bf) trying to stay at the same weight with regards to pro/fat in the off days and carbs in the backload?

[quote]simonsky96 wrote:
I have Carb Nite and don’t want to shell out some more money for CBL as I’m broke.

From what I read so far, CNS is just the same as CBL except for the number of backloads or carb-nites (CNS calls for only once every 4 day span). Is this assessment correct?

Also if you guys would help a brother out, what would be good macros for a 150lb powerlifter (about 15-18%bf) trying to stay at the same weight with regards to pro/fat in the off days and carbs in the backload?

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I’m trying to figure out the difference in the two books myself. Not a money issue at all just don’t want to order and read redundant stuff.

[quote]as wrote:

[quote]simonsky96 wrote:
I have Carb Nite and don’t want to shell out some more money for CBL as I’m broke.

From what I read so far, CNS is just the same as CBL except for the number of backloads or carb-nites (CNS calls for only once every 4 day span). Is this assessment correct?

Also if you guys would help a brother out, what would be good macros for a 150lb powerlifter (about 15-18%bf) trying to stay at the same weight with regards to pro/fat in the off days and carbs in the backload?

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I’m trying to figure out the difference in the two books myself. Not a money issue at all just don’t want to order and read redundant stuff.[/quote]

You have the basic idea right. With CBL there are some shakes and what not that you can get, but I never bought them. I suppose it would have made a difference if I went ballsdeep and bought the special powders and what not. But honestly I’ve been able to lean out a little, stay at my same weight and eat like I do? I’m ok with that. As for the powerlifter question. Depends on whether or not you want to lean out or gain weight. But just for starters I’d say on the off days don’t eat more than 30g of carbs for the days total, and on the training days play around with it. See what works for ya. One of the main reasons I don’t lose weight as fast as I could is because of the amount of food I eat. Kiefer specifically says don’t be a fat kid, and that’s what I do. So I generally maintain my weight haha.

I think what I’m going to do is drink shakes and eat jerky for the first part of the day, and eat PB&j’s at night.

Hey guys i got a couple of questions.
I can only train at 7-8 p.m. is it still ok for me to backload carbs.

Here is what i have done for an off day

wake up-6am
2 slice bacon 3 sausage-7am-0 carb
3 oz beef jerky-930am-9 carb
8 oz turkey breast-12noon- 8carb
4 scrambled eggs in 1tbsp butter- 0 carb
8 oz chicken breast-0carb
6 oz salmon- 0 carb
thats all i ate so far today,ill probably eat more,- it only came out to 1570calories today is that enough for an off day?

[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
Hey guys i got a couple of questions.
I can only train at 7-8 p.m. is it still ok for me to backload carbs.

Here is what i have done for an off day

wake up-6am
2 slice bacon 3 sausage-7am-0 carb
3 oz beef jerky-930am-9 carb
8 oz turkey breast-12noon- 8carb
4 scrambled eggs in 1tbsp butter- 0 carb
8 oz chicken breast-0carb
6 oz salmon- 0 carb
thats all i ate so far today,ill probably eat more,- it only came out to 1570calories today is that enough for an off day?[/quote]
obviously height and weight come into play here. But Id imagine that no, its not enough, and that you are also eating too much protein, too many meals and not enough fats. You also would benefit from extending your morning fast before feeding on all days. You get up at 6am? What time do you have your last meal at night? Say you have your last meal at 9pm and wake up at 6am. With that schedule Id count 12-14 hours and have the first meal at around 9-11am. You can still have coffee and Coconut oil first thing though.

If you train at around 7pm you might find it hard to get heaps of carbs in in one meal. So if you do find this the case you may wish to add carbs to your workout drink. But otherwise that time is fine.

[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:

[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
Hey guys i got a couple of questions.
I can only train at 7-8 p.m. is it still ok for me to backload carbs.

Here is what i have done for an off day

wake up-6am
2 slice bacon 3 sausage-7am-0 carb
3 oz beef jerky-930am-9 carb
8 oz turkey breast-12noon- 8carb
4 scrambled eggs in 1tbsp butter- 0 carb
8 oz chicken breast-0carb
6 oz salmon- 0 carb
thats all i ate so far today,ill probably eat more,- it only came out to 1570calories today is that enough for an off day?[/quote]
obviously height and weight come into play here. But Id imagine that no, its not enough, and that you are also eating too much protein, too many meals and not enough fats. You also would benefit from extending your morning fast before feeding on all days. You get up at 6am? What time do you have your last meal at night? Say you have your last meal at 9pm and wake up at 6am. With that schedule Id count 12-14 hours and have the first meal at around 9-11am. You can still have coffee and Coconut oil first thing though.

If you train at around 7pm you might find it hard to get heaps of carbs in in one meal. So if you do find this the case you may wish to add carbs to your workout drink. But otherwise that time is fine.[/quote]

ok thanks im 5’8 and 170 looking to lean out. what should i do for fats? I was doing pb for fats but the kind i have has 15g carbs per 2 tbsp. Thanks again for the help.

[quote]georgeh707 wrote:

[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:

[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
Hey guys i got a couple of questions.
I can only train at 7-8 p.m. is it still ok for me to backload carbs.

Here is what i have done for an off day

wake up-6am
2 slice bacon 3 sausage-7am-0 carb
3 oz beef jerky-930am-9 carb
8 oz turkey breast-12noon- 8carb
4 scrambled eggs in 1tbsp butter- 0 carb
8 oz chicken breast-0carb
6 oz salmon- 0 carb
thats all i ate so far today,ill probably eat more,- it only came out to 1570calories today is that enough for an off day?[/quote]
obviously height and weight come into play here. But Id imagine that no, its not enough, and that you are also eating too much protein, too many meals and not enough fats. You also would benefit from extending your morning fast before feeding on all days. You get up at 6am? What time do you have your last meal at night? Say you have your last meal at 9pm and wake up at 6am. With that schedule Id count 12-14 hours and have the first meal at around 9-11am. You can still have coffee and Coconut oil first thing though.

If you train at around 7pm you might find it hard to get heaps of carbs in in one meal. So if you do find this the case you may wish to add carbs to your workout drink. But otherwise that time is fine.[/quote]
ok thanks im 5’8 and 170 looking to lean out. what should i do for fats? I was doing pb for fats but the kind i have has 15g carbs per 2 tbsp. Thanks again for the help.[/quote]

Try to remember useable carbs. We don’t count carbs from fiber. Not sure what kind of PB you have, but I eat the skippy creamy type which has 7g carbs per 2tbs serving. 2g fiber, so 5g of carbs from sugars. You’d only count 5g of carbs from that.

[quote]Siouxfan wrote:

[quote]georgeh707 wrote:

[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:

[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
Hey guys i got a couple of questions.
I can only train at 7-8 p.m. is it still ok for me to backload carbs.

Here is what i have done for an off day

wake up-6am
2 slice bacon 3 sausage-7am-0 carb
3 oz beef jerky-930am-9 carb
8 oz turkey breast-12noon- 8carb
4 scrambled eggs in 1tbsp butter- 0 carb
8 oz chicken breast-0carb
6 oz salmon- 0 carb
thats all i ate so far today,ill probably eat more,- it only came out to 1570calories today is that enough for an off day?[/quote]
obviously height and weight come into play here. But Id imagine that no, its not enough, and that you are also eating too much protein, too many meals and not enough fats. You also would benefit from extending your morning fast before feeding on all days. You get up at 6am? What time do you have your last meal at night? Say you have your last meal at 9pm and wake up at 6am. With that schedule Id count 12-14 hours and have the first meal at around 9-11am. You can still have coffee and Coconut oil first thing though.

If you train at around 7pm you might find it hard to get heaps of carbs in in one meal. So if you do find this the case you may wish to add carbs to your workout drink. But otherwise that time is fine.[/quote]
ok thanks im 5’8 and 170 looking to lean out. what should i do for fats? I was doing pb for fats but the kind i have has 15g carbs per 2 tbsp. Thanks again for the help.[/quote]

Try to remember useable carbs. We don’t count carbs from fiber. Not sure what kind of PB you have, but I eat the skippy creamy type which has 7g carbs per 2tbs serving. 2g fiber, so 5g of carbs from sugars. You’d only count 5g of carbs from that. [/quote]
o ok thnx man