one more question(sorry)
how much fat should i be shooting for on non training days and on traingin days?
[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
one more question(sorry)
how much fat should i be shooting for on non training days and on traingin days?
[/quote]
I think the general consensus on this was a 50:50 for fats and protein. At least for the non training days, and same ration till you loft on the training days. Then keep the fat as low as possible for the backload most of the time. I may be wrong here. I don’t really count much of anything when I eat lol. I just eat meat and veggies the first half of the day, carbs after training.
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
one more question(sorry)
how much fat should i be shooting for on non training days and on traingin days?
[/quote]
I think the general consensus on this was a 50:50 for fats and protein. At least for the non training days, and same ration till you loft on the training days. Then keep the fat as low as possible for the backload most of the time. I may be wrong here. I don’t really count much of anything when I eat lol. I just eat meat and veggies the first half of the day, carbs after training. [/quote]
Thanks a lot for the help. One more question(last one i swear) do i have to aim for a certain amount of calories for the day or just count carbs
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
one more question(sorry)
how much fat should i be shooting for on non training days and on traingin days?
[/quote]
I think the general consensus on this was a 50:50 for fats and protein. At least for the non training days, and same ration till you loft on the training days. Then keep the fat as low as possible for the backload most of the time. I may be wrong here. I don’t really count much of anything when I eat lol. I just eat meat and veggies the first half of the day, carbs after training. [/quote]
And that’s the beauty of CBL. Use your eyes to determine if you are over/under shooting your backloads. Feeling drained, go crazy. Feeling lean and strong, keep doing what your doing. Feeling bloateed and look like your holding water, maybe cut the carbs back a bit. Get to know your body.
[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
wake up-6am
2 slice bacon 3 sausage-7am-0 carb
3 oz beef jerky-930am-9 carb
8 oz turkey breast-12noon- 8carb
4 scrambled eggs in 1tbsp butter- 0 carb
8 oz chicken breast-0carb
6 oz salmon- 0 carb
ok thanks im 5’8 and 170 looking to lean out. what should i do for fats? I was doing pb for fats but the kind i have has 15g carbs per 2 tbsp. Thanks again for the help.[/quote]
Well this is how Id approach it.
You have 6 meals here of which most are quite small and very lean. I would keep your eggs, salmon and your bacon (maybe not sausage if there are carbs involved) as these have a decent amount of fats. I would get rid of the chicken and turkey (have these as your PWO protein sources with your carbs if you like) up the portion sizes on these meals and shoot for 3-4 meals max on off days. Add Beef. You having anything else with these meals? vegetables/fishoil? Add some coconut oil to your coffees etc for more good fats.
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
one more question(sorry)
how much fat should i be shooting for on non training days and on traingin days?
[/quote]
I think the general consensus on this was a 50:50 for fats and protein. At least for the non training days, and same ration till you loft on the training days. Then keep the fat as low as possible for the backload most of the time. I may be wrong here. I don’t really count much of anything when I eat lol. I just eat meat and veggies the first half of the day, carbs after training. [/quote]
Agreed.
[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
one more question(sorry)
how much fat should i be shooting for on non training days and on traingin days?
[/quote]
I think the general consensus on this was a 50:50 for fats and protein. At least for the non training days, and same ration till you loft on the training days. Then keep the fat as low as possible for the backload most of the time. I may be wrong here. I don’t really count much of anything when I eat lol. I just eat meat and veggies the first half of the day, carbs after training. [/quote]
Thanks a lot for the help. One more question(last one i swear) do i have to aim for a certain amount of calories for the day or just count carbs
[/quote]
Ha it’s not a problem! I usually just count the carbs. I tried counting calories a few posts back just for fun. But I seem to do fine just making sure I have a decent amount of protein and lots of veggies. Now when I start the mountain dog diet…that’ll be another story lol
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
one more question(sorry)
how much fat should i be shooting for on non training days and on traingin days?
[/quote]
I think the general consensus on this was a 50:50 for fats and protein. At least for the non training days, and same ration till you loft on the training days. Then keep the fat as low as possible for the backload most of the time. I may be wrong here. I don’t really count much of anything when I eat lol. I just eat meat and veggies the first half of the day, carbs after training. [/quote]
Thanks a lot for the help. One more question(last one i swear) do i have to aim for a certain amount of calories for the day or just count carbs
[/quote]
Ha it’s not a problem! I usually just count the carbs. I tried counting calories a few posts back just for fun. But I seem to do fine just making sure I have a decent amount of protein and lots of veggies. Now when I start the mountain dog diet…that’ll be another story lol[/quote]
Do you have veggies in any of your meals after lifting? I know you are not supposed to because of the fiber but I miss having loads of veggies to fill up on.
[quote]gkeeper24 wrote:
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
one more question(sorry)
how much fat should i be shooting for on non training days and on traingin days?
[/quote]
I think the general consensus on this was a 50:50 for fats and protein. At least for the non training days, and same ration till you loft on the training days. Then keep the fat as low as possible for the backload most of the time. I may be wrong here. I don’t really count much of anything when I eat lol. I just eat meat and veggies the first half of the day, carbs after training. [/quote]
Thanks a lot for the help. One more question(last one i swear) do i have to aim for a certain amount of calories for the day or just count carbs
[/quote]
Ha it’s not a problem! I usually just count the carbs. I tried counting calories a few posts back just for fun. But I seem to do fine just making sure I have a decent amount of protein and lots of veggies. Now when I start the mountain dog diet…that’ll be another story lol[/quote]
Do you have veggies in any of your meals after lifting? I know you are not supposed to because of the fiber but I miss having loads of veggies to fill up on.[/quote]
I don’t usually. I’m pretty happy eating upwards of 2+ pounds on them on the off days. I’m more focused on the bad foods lol
I’ve confirmed it with Meadows. I’m going to get some cash together to start my MD diet/training thread next weekend (the 12th/13th). Planning on at least a year with him.
Maybe one of y’all can help me. I ordered the book from an I Pad and it wouldn’t download. I tried emailing every link that was listed. I even tried registering on the Dangerously Hardcore forum to try and get some help. I received no response so did the refund from Click Bank. I then tried to order again from my laptop, figuring maybe the problem was with the I Pad.
Once again, no luck. I can’t get anyone associated with Kiefer to reply to me. I want to buy this damn book, any suggestions or does anyone have a link that they have actually gotten a response from? I’m backloading now based on what I’ve pieced together but I really would like to have his book as well.
11:00 wake up (ugh)
12:45 tea with stevia - 2g carbs
13:00 fiber shake and pills
15:00 Shake - 6g carbs
16:30 7oz gbeef, veggies, dressing - 3g carbs
19:00 shake - 6g carbs
20:00 10oz chicken, veggies, dressing - 3g carbs
TOTAL: 20g carbs
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
I’ve confirmed it with Meadows. I’m going to get some cash together to start my MD diet/training thread next weekend (the 12th/13th). Planning on at least a year with him. [/quote]
Cant wait for this. JM is the man. A god among mere mortals
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
I’ve confirmed it with Meadows. I’m going to get some cash together to start my MD diet/training thread next weekend (the 12th/13th). Planning on at least a year with him. [/quote]
Cant wait for this. JM is the man. A god among mere mortals[/quote]
Indeed. I’ll be logging it in the same detail as I am here. Along with weekly updates that actually include pics lol.
[quote]georgeh707 wrote:
Hey guys i got a couple of questions.
I can only train at 7-8 p.m. is it still ok for me to backload carbs.
Here is what i have done for an off day
wake up-6am
2 slice bacon 3 sausage-7am-0 carb
3 oz beef jerky-930am-9 carb
8 oz turkey breast-12noon- 8carb
4 scrambled eggs in 1tbsp butter- 0 carb
8 oz chicken breast-0carb
6 oz salmon- 0 carb
thats all i ate so far today,ill probably eat more,- it only came out to 1570calories today is that enough for an off day?[/quote]
I think it’s kind of individual even though most here said you need more calories and more fat. Myself personally I’ve had to get down to 1400-1600 calories on weekdays and not much more than 3000 on my weekend carb up once I’m in the single digit body fat and trying to get leaner. I end up at roughly 6% bodyfat (maybe a tad lower at times)at 190-195lbs. For me it’s probably a combo of having a slower metabolism than most people to begin with, and it getting even slower after 12-16 weeks of dieting causing me to keep lowering calories and upping the cardio.
You really have to experiment, but the biggest factor is to keep track of your daily calories and the breakdown so you know exactly what’s going on.
georgeh707, you could also replace chicken breast and turkey breast with chicken thigh and turkey thigh. You’ll get more fat, which means more calories per oz, which means you eat less and save $$ at the store. I recently added chicken thighs and save the breast meat for post workout, since it’s so lean.
[quote]ds1973 wrote:
georgeh707, you could also replace chicken breast and turkey breast with chicken thigh and turkey thigh. You’ll get more fat, which means more calories per oz, which means you eat less and save $$ at the store. I recently added chicken thighs and save the breast meat for post workout, since it’s so lean. [/quote]
Thats a good idea. Still think he could do with some Beef though (:
[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:
[quote]ds1973 wrote:
georgeh707, you could also replace chicken breast and turkey breast with chicken thigh and turkey thigh. You’ll get more fat, which means more calories per oz, which means you eat less and save $$ at the store. I recently added chicken thighs and save the breast meat for post workout, since it’s so lean. [/quote]
Thats a good idea. Still think he could do with some Beef though (: [/quote]
Beef, it’s what’s for dinner.
[quote]ds1973 wrote:
georgeh707, you could also replace chicken breast and turkey breast with chicken thigh and turkey thigh. You’ll get more fat, which means more calories per oz, which means you eat less and save $$ at the store. I recently added chicken thighs and save the breast meat for post workout, since it’s so lean. [/quote]
k sounds good thanks to everyone who helped me
Nice thread man! thanks for the info