Guys I got a question. I get in about 4000+ calories, and train twice a day. In the first half of the day, I eat only protein+fat, and trace carbs are less then 20g. I calculated it up, and I’m getting in nearly 200g of fat a day, and around 275 Protein, and a usual 320-350 Carbs.
Is anyone eating this much fat? It wasn’t on purpose, just ended up happening? lol
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Guys I got a question. I get in about 4000+ calories, and train twice a day. In the first half of the day, I eat only protein+fat, and trace carbs are less then 20g. I calculated it up, and I’m getting in nearly 200g of fat a day, and around 275 Protein, and a usual 320-350 Carbs.
Is anyone eating this much fat? It wasn’t on purpose, just ended up happening? lol[/quote]
I have no idea. I cook all my food in some sort of oil, mostly sesame at the moment. I like PB, I drink a fair bit of heavy cream with my tea and coffee, but to be honest I’ve never counted the amount of fat I eat.
Most days i am at 500-700g carb (depends on day) 300-400g pro and even high sometimes (i love all lean pro sources). and fat is normally where ever it falls without me adding any. 60-80 depening on the meat sources i eat and how much i cheese i eat.
Liquid: if you do get a hold of it and run some experiments please share. I would be very interested.
8:00 wake up
coffee with cream
12:30 2 egg omelet, some bacon, cheese - 5g carbs
12:30 Fiber shake + joint pills
14:30 500m swim in pube infested waters
16:30 10oz chicken, dressing, brocoli - 3g carbs
21:00 Shake - 6g carbs
1:30am shake - 6g carbs
TOTAL: 20g carbs
This idea was presented in the warrior diet like a decade ago. He’s just put a new spin on it and made it his own.
Up to 239 today for the weekly weigh. May be because of the dirtier foods, may be because of the lack of cardio. May have gained some muscle. Who knows. I’ll try some cleaner foods this week, Keep things to perhaps 250 carbs or less and see how it goes.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Most days i am at 500-700g carb (depends on day) 300-400g pro and even high sometimes (i love all lean pro sources). and fat is normally where ever it falls without me adding any. 60-80 depening on the meat sources i eat and how much i cheese i eat.
Liquid: if you do get a hold of it and run some experiments please share. I would be very interested.[/quote]
500-700!! Jumpin Jesus that’s A LOT!! I might try that for a couple days just to see how I feel.
My weight was 238 last night before the shake before bed, so that might of had something to do with it. anyways.
Going to try something different, putting all those fats I was eating on training days on Off days, and bumping up my carbs drastically on training days, to see if I can REALLY get some effective results from CBL.
Training Days: 135g F, 520g C, 230g P
Off Days: 160g F, 150g C, 230g P
Kind of hesitant, as I’ve never been crazy carb-tolerant, but so fat CBL as been wonderful for me, and so I have faith taking it one step further will simply amplify the results. I’ll try this out for th month of April, and evaluate results from there.
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
. On a lighter note the workouts have been going very well. I can tell the weights are increasing. [/quote]
Looking pretty solid man. You carry your fat just like me, almost all on the lower back. Once you lean out some more your V-Taper will be legit, though
I’m going to try to include cardio in there more. Some swimming most days of the week and see how that goes. Also try weighing on mondays since I feel like the 2 off days will provide enough time for the water weight to go away and the extra bloat from the carbs. Perhaps keep the real extreme days to legs only, and keep it a bit healthier the other days, something like 600g carbs on leg day, and 250 or less on everything else. We’ll see lol.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Going to try something different, putting all those fats I was eating on training days on Off days, and bumping up my carbs drastically on training days, to see if I can REALLY get some effective results from CBL.
Training Days: 135g F, 520g C, 230g P
Off Days: 160g F, 150g C, 230g P
Kind of hesitant, as I’ve never been crazy carb-tolerant, but so fat CBL as been wonderful for me, and so I have faith taking it one step further will simply amplify the results. I’ll try this out for th month of April, and evaluate results from there. [/quote]
If it’s been working for you then good, but Kiefer suggests keeping the off days at 30g or less for carbs. Unless you have consecutive off days where a smaller backload may be necessary.
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Going to try something different, putting all those fats I was eating on training days on Off days, and bumping up my carbs drastically on training days, to see if I can REALLY get some effective results from CBL.
Training Days: 135g F, 520g C, 230g P
Off Days: 160g F, 150g C, 230g P
Kind of hesitant, as I’ve never been crazy carb-tolerant, but so fat CBL as been wonderful for me, and so I have faith taking it one step further will simply amplify the results. I’ll try this out for th month of April, and evaluate results from there. [/quote]
If it’s been working for you then good, but Kiefer suggests keeping the off days at 30g or less for carbs. Unless you have consecutive off days where a smaller backload may be necessary. [/quote]
30g? Wow, I don’t know how I’d get in near enough calories… Plus, on off days, I usually still play an hour of two of basketball, or some type of physical activity, so maybe it’ll counter balance, you think??
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Going to try something different, putting all those fats I was eating on training days on Off days, and bumping up my carbs drastically on training days, to see if I can REALLY get some effective results from CBL.
Training Days: 135g F, 520g C, 230g P
Off Days: 160g F, 150g C, 230g P
Kind of hesitant, as I’ve never been crazy carb-tolerant, but so fat CBL as been wonderful for me, and so I have faith taking it one step further will simply amplify the results. I’ll try this out for th month of April, and evaluate results from there. [/quote]
If it’s been working for you then good, but Kiefer suggests keeping the off days at 30g or less for carbs. Unless you have consecutive off days where a smaller backload may be necessary. [/quote]
30g? Wow, I don’t know how I’d get in near enough calories… Plus, on off days, I usually still play an hour of two of basketball, or some type of physical activity, so maybe it’ll counter balance, you think??[/quote]
If you are “Density Bulking” then I think backloading on days off is acceptable. I don’t go crazy but I do need the carbs to get through the next day’s workout.
[quote]StateOfPsychosis wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Going to try something different, putting all those fats I was eating on training days on Off days, and bumping up my carbs drastically on training days, to see if I can REALLY get some effective results from CBL.
Training Days: 135g F, 520g C, 230g P
Off Days: 160g F, 150g C, 230g P
Kind of hesitant, as I’ve never been crazy carb-tolerant, but so fat CBL as been wonderful for me, and so I have faith taking it one step further will simply amplify the results. I’ll try this out for th month of April, and evaluate results from there. [/quote]
If it’s been working for you then good, but Kiefer suggests keeping the off days at 30g or less for carbs. Unless you have consecutive off days where a smaller backload may be necessary. [/quote]
30g? Wow, I don’t know how I’d get in near enough calories… Plus, on off days, I usually still play an hour of two of basketball, or some type of physical activity, so maybe it’ll counter balance, you think??[/quote]
If you are “Density Bulking” then I think backloading on days off is acceptable. I don’t go crazy but I do need the carbs to get through the next day’s workout.[/quote]
Well you’d have to eat a lot more chicken and brocoli lol.
[quote]StateOfPsychosis wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Most days i am at 500-700g carb (depends on day) 300-400g pro and even high sometimes (i love all lean pro sources). and fat is normally where ever it falls without me adding any. 60-80 depening on the meat sources i eat and how much i cheese i eat.
Liquid: if you do get a hold of it and run some experiments please share. I would be very interested.[/quote]
500-700!! Jumpin Jesus that’s A LOT!! I might try that for a couple days just to see how I feel. [/quote]
Try it. Recovery is asinine
Carbs on off days are fine if you are doing the density bulk. On the strength accumulation you want to keep it under 30g
9:00 wake up
10:00 coffee with cream
12:00 10g protein + fiber shake and joint pills - 1g carbs
13:00 5.5 mile hike
15:45 Reuben omelet - 7g carbs
16:15 shake + pb - 7g carbs
18:45 9oz chicken, brocoli, dressing - 4g carbs
19:00 Fiber shake + joint pills
19:20 tea - 1g carbs
21:00 shake with 2tbs pb - 9g carbs
TOTAL: 28g carbs
Question, the PB I eat has 2g carbs from friber, and 3 from sugar per each serving. I used one serving in my last shake. I only count the 3 carbs from the sugar correct?
yea, those are “net” carbs. Fiber (and protein, and fat) decreases the GI of carbs. Fiber has no caloric value so no need to count it
