[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
It is one of those. Or if you get a panel run for blood test from a doc through a an actual lab. But the glucometer is much easier and you can do in your home whenever you want[/quote]
Agreed, this would be very interesting to see…
[quote]Stacked wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
It is one of those. Or if you get a panel run for blood test from a doc through a an actual lab. But the glucometer is much easier and you can do in your home whenever you want[/quote]
Agreed, this would be very interesting to see…[/quote]
Man you guys are anal! results or the opinion of the diets creator arent good enough for you? (:
For me the biggest “tell” if I have been backloading with enough quality stuff is I feel good and I have awesome workouts. As soon as I backload with shit or not enough carbs, workouts suffer.
[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:
[quote]Stacked wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
It is one of those. Or if you get a panel run for blood test from a doc through a an actual lab. But the glucometer is much easier and you can do in your home whenever you want[/quote]
Agreed, this would be very interesting to see…[/quote]
Man you guys are anal! results or the opinion of the diets creator arent good enough for you? (: [/quote]
Honestly the opinion of the person that put the info there to MAKE MONEY should never be good enough for you. You should always be able the think critically and test the claims.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:
[quote]Stacked wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
It is one of those. Or if you get a panel run for blood test from a doc through a an actual lab. But the glucometer is much easier and you can do in your home whenever you want[/quote]
Agreed, this would be very interesting to see…[/quote]
Man you guys are anal! results or the opinion of the diets creator arent good enough for you? (: [/quote]
Honestly the opinion of the person that put the info there to MAKE MONEY should never be good enough for you. You should always be able the think critically and test the claims.[/quote]
I’ll do it, if you buy me a glucometer cuz I’m broke!! I’m already satisfied with backloading and IF, it’s made weight cutting easier than any of my previous attempts. But, like you, I’m curious to see the numbers just to satisfy my inner nerd.
One of the guys I train with had to do a wingate test in ex phys lab and his blood sugar was through the roof after he finished the exercise bout. I’m pretty sure he had a protein only breakfast that day, and had a carb refeed after training the night before.
I suppose I could lol
8:00 wake up
10:15 2egg, 3 strips bacon, green onion, some cheese - 4g carbs
12:00 5 mile hike, had a shake here - 6g carbs
15:00 GYM
Smith machine row: 185x8, 205x8, 225x7, 225x7, 235x6, 235x6
Cable row: 210x10, 225x8, 240x6
Chins (all bodyweight) Cable handle 2 sets of 8, medium grip 1 set of 6 & 5, wide grip 2 sets of 3
DB pullover: 80x10, 80x10
PWO shake: 2 scoops powder, 2tbs PB, 30g dextrose - 50g carbs
19:00 Cookie + 10oz chicken, 10oz rice - 90g carbs
19:40 Piece of pie - 80g carbs
20:00 grapes - 15g carbs
20:06 Piece of pie - 80g carbs
TOTAL: 325 g
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:
[quote]Stacked wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
It is one of those. Or if you get a panel run for blood test from a doc through a an actual lab. But the glucometer is much easier and you can do in your home whenever you want[/quote]
Agreed, this would be very interesting to see…[/quote]
Man you guys are anal! results or the opinion of the diets creator arent good enough for you? (: [/quote]
Honestly the opinion of the person that put the info there to MAKE MONEY should never be good enough for you. You should always be able the think critically and test the claims.[/quote]
I dont want to kick up a stink here because my comment was tounge in cheek. Are you considering changing your diet because of this morning blood glucose? If not why is it such a big deal? Youve admitted getting results you are happy with, which should varify the merit of that diet so why are you so interested in this stuff? Nothing youll learn is going to change those results.
If you have high glucose in the morning, and are worried about it, have you tried just doing the diet as its supposed to be done and then checked the difference?
[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:
[quote]Stacked wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
It is one of those. Or if you get a panel run for blood test from a doc through a an actual lab. But the glucometer is much easier and you can do in your home whenever you want[/quote]
Agreed, this would be very interesting to see…[/quote]
Man you guys are anal! results or the opinion of the diets creator arent good enough for you? (: [/quote]
Honestly the opinion of the person that put the info there to MAKE MONEY should never be good enough for you. You should always be able the think critically and test the claims.[/quote]
I dont want to kick up a stink here because my comment was tounge in cheek. Are you considering changing your diet because of this morning blood glucose? If not why is it such a big deal? Youve admitted getting results you are happy with, which should varify the merit of that diet so why are you so interested in this stuff? Nothing youll learn is going to change those results.
If you have high glucose in the morning, and are worried about it, have you tried just doing the diet as its supposed to be done and then checked the difference?[/quote]
I’d be willing to try both. I can do a clean backload and a regular and publish my findings lol
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
I’d be willing to try both. I can do a clean backload and a regular and publish my findings lol
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TBH Id do it too if it didnt involve needles!
[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
I’d be willing to try both. I can do a clean backload and a regular and publish my findings lol
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TBH Id do it too if it didnt involve needles! [/quote]
Yeah they don’t bother me much. But that’s because of a few years of HRT that I do myself.
If needles bothered me I would be screwed as my HRT treatment would be quite difficult. The needle you speak of on the glucometer is barely a needle lol. You dont even see it. It just shoots out and pops back in. You dont even have to make a stabbing motion.
Anyways the reason i am curious is becuase i am curious. I like to experiment. And right now my glucometer (actually was my moms) is not working. And these are the experiments i want to try just to try. In my mind the reason his approach of very high gi carbs working better would be the faster lowering of blood glucose levels. I would wonder about optimal health as the demands on the pancreas would be quite intense to be producing that much insulin for those high GI carbs all almost everyday (for me because i lift 6 days a week). Anyways just some of my reasonsings and thoughts
Siox how you like the smith rows? Whats you body postition and where do you row to? LIke it better then free weights?
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
If needles bothered me I would be screwed as my HRT treatment would be quite difficult. The needle you speak of on the glucometer is barely a needle lol. You dont even see it. It just shoots out and pops back in. You dont even have to make a stabbing motion.
Anyways the reason i am curious is becuase i am curious. I like to experiment. And right now my glucometer (actually was my moms) is not working. And these are the experiments i want to try just to try. In my mind the reason his approach of very high gi carbs working better would be the faster lowering of blood glucose levels. I would wonder about optimal health as the demands on the pancreas would be quite intense to be producing that much insulin for those high GI carbs all almost everyday (for me because i lift 6 days a week). Anyways just some of my reasonsings and thoughts
Siox how you like the smith rows? Whats you body postition and where do you row to? LIke it better then free weights?[/quote]
Well I do actually like them more than free rows. Meadows says I have to do them, so I do. Besides, it makes it a lot easier to focus on the back instead of moving the weight like I used to. But I stand on an aerobic step, and row to my upper abs usually. If I do it right I can feel it in the entire back.
Oh and I got in a fight between myself and another piece of pie after I posted. But it’s ok, I won. Also, although still a couple pounds heavier than last sunday right now I am 2 pounds lighter than when I backloaded with pizza (yesterday morning?), so that’s a plus.
Thanks for the info might have to try these but i think my smith machine at the gym is angled so not sure how that will play into it
[quote]Defiance wrote:
Usually go fasted until i train, at around 4-5. I drink coffee with coconut oil and a tiny bit of whey isolate. Coffee for the caffeine, and to stop hunger. Coconut oil to prolong ketogenesis. If i eat enough the night before, its not a problem going that long. If the day before was bad, i might have a some eggs or a steak before training.
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This is that 10 g whey + 1 teaspoon coconut oil “accelerator shake”, right? Any reason this couldn’t work with EVOO or peanut oil? That’s first thing in the morning and you don’t eat till after you train? I thought Kiefer was against extended fasting of that sort?
[quote]ds1973 wrote:
[quote]Defiance wrote:
Usually go fasted until i train, at around 4-5. I drink coffee with coconut oil and a tiny bit of whey isolate. Coffee for the caffeine, and to stop hunger. Coconut oil to prolong ketogenesis. If i eat enough the night before, its not a problem going that long. If the day before was bad, i might have a some eggs or a steak before training.
[/quote]
This is that 10 g whey + 1 teaspoon coconut oil “accelerator shake”, right? Any reason this couldn’t work with EVOO or peanut oil? That’s first thing in the morning and you don’t eat till after you train? I thought Kiefer was against extended fasting of that sort?[/quote]
I think he’s against extended fasting when you don’t provide a fat source for fuel. Like the VCO or the cream.
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
[quote]ds1973 wrote:
[quote]Defiance wrote:
Usually go fasted until i train, at around 4-5. I drink coffee with coconut oil and a tiny bit of whey isolate. Coffee for the caffeine, and to stop hunger. Coconut oil to prolong ketogenesis. If i eat enough the night before, its not a problem going that long. If the day before was bad, i might have a some eggs or a steak before training.
[/quote]
This is that 10 g whey + 1 teaspoon coconut oil “accelerator shake”, right? Any reason this couldn’t work with EVOO or peanut oil? That’s first thing in the morning and you don’t eat till after you train? I thought Kiefer was against extended fasting of that sort?[/quote]
I think he’s against extended fasting when you don’t provide a fat source for fuel. Like the VCO or the cream. [/quote]
so 10 g whey and 1 tsp oil is enough to basically fast the rest of the day?
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
It is one of those. Or if you get a panel run for blood test from a doc through a an actual lab. But the glucometer is much easier and you can do in your home whenever you want[/quote]
One of my clients makes a brand new system (the one that Tim Ferriss uses in his 4 hour body book). I’ll see if they’d like to donate a system my way and if they do I’ll start tracking.
[quote]ds1973 wrote:
[quote]Siouxfan wrote:
[quote]ds1973 wrote:
[quote]Defiance wrote:
Usually go fasted until i train, at around 4-5. I drink coffee with coconut oil and a tiny bit of whey isolate. Coffee for the caffeine, and to stop hunger. Coconut oil to prolong ketogenesis. If i eat enough the night before, its not a problem going that long. If the day before was bad, i might have a some eggs or a steak before training.
[/quote]
This is that 10 g whey + 1 teaspoon coconut oil “accelerator shake”, right? Any reason this couldn’t work with EVOO or peanut oil? That’s first thing in the morning and you don’t eat till after you train? I thought Kiefer was against extended fasting of that sort?[/quote]
I think he’s against extended fasting when you don’t provide a fat source for fuel. Like the VCO or the cream. [/quote]
so 10 g whey and 1 tsp oil is enough to basically fast the rest of the day?[/quote]
It should be enough to provide a little something. But from the template in the book Kiefer doesn’t say to be fasted ALL day till training. There is usually 1 or 2 meals in there depending on frequency. But if it works for that person then I don’t see why not.
8:00 wake up
8-12 coffee with cream and stevia - 2g carbs
12:00 2egg omelet with green onion, bacon and cheese - 5g carbs
12:00 Fiber shake + joint pills
13:45 scoop of protein + PB - 8g carbs
15:00 Arms and calves
Seated Calf raises: 115x15, 115x15, 115x15, 115x15, 125x10, 125x10
Rope pushdowns: 65x12, 65x12, 65x12, 65x12
SS
Seated db curl: 30x8, 30x8, 30x8, 30x8
Dips between bench: 25x10, 50x10, 75x10, 100x10
SS
Standing EZ curls: 40x6, 50x6, 60x6, 70x6
Seated DB ext: 75x8, 75x8, 75x8, 75x8
SS
EZ preacher curls: 20x8, 20x8, 20x8, 20x8
Reverse Curls EZ: 20x12, 20x12
*All curls were done with Grip4orce, also the weight listed is the weight on the bar, not including the weight of the EZ bar
18:30 PWO shake: 2 scoops, PB, dextrose - 50g carbs
18:30 Fiber shake + joint pills
19:40 10oz rice, 10oz chicken, BBQ sauce - 75g carbs
19:50 Pie - 80g carbs
20:30 Little ice cream, choc milk, pb&j - 75g carbs
TOTAL 293g carbs