Carb Back Loading

Yeah I probably do, but I feel like I make up for it on my backloading days. Eat a little light on the days I don’t lift, and on the days I do I eat till my stomach hurts haha.

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
I wish Kiefer would come out with a bit more of those looking to be in the 6% range. I’m in that 11-12% range and needing to be a bit lower to make weight for my meet without compromising strength. It’d be great if he’d weigh in more there.[/quote]
He has. Its called the Carb nite solution.

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
You gots to eat more sir[/quote]

I’m going to backload with granola and yoghurt tomorrow night haha. Thought you might like that instead of my usual crap.

[quote]Siouxfan wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
You gots to eat more sir[/quote]

I’m going to backload with granola and yoghurt tomorrow night haha. Thought you might like that instead of my usual crap. [/quote]

LOl as long as you dont get bloated from the yogurt. I tried doing a majority of my carbs from cookies and other “crappier” carbs and my god that did not agree with me. I have to keep those types a lot smaller. I was un happy most of sat.

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Siouxfan wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
You gots to eat more sir[/quote]

I’m going to backload with granola and yoghurt tomorrow night haha. Thought you might like that instead of my usual crap. [/quote]

LOl as long as you dont get bloated from the yogurt. I tried doing a majority of my carbs from cookies and other “crappier” carbs and my god that did not agree with me. I have to keep those types a lot smaller. I was un happy most of sat. [/quote]

I’m going to see what the granola and yoghurt do. But my oh my do I love me some granola in yoghurt. Best snack ever.

8:00 wake up
coffee and tea - 2g carbs
12:00 Omelet, 3 eggs, 4oz chicken, bean sprouts, cheese - 6g carbs
12:30 Tea - 2g carbs
14:45 protein shake - 6g carbs
18:00 10oz chicken, veggies, dressing - 6g carbs
21:00 2 scoops protein - 6g carbs

TOTAL: 28g carbs

8:00 wake up
9:00 coffee with cream/stevia - 1g carbs
11:00 fiber shake + joint pills
11:45 omelet - 6g carbs
15:00 GYM:

Seated calf raise: 115x15, 115x15, 115x15, 115x15, 115x10, 115x10

Standing calf raise: bdyx50, bdyx50

Seated leg curl: 195x12, 195x12, 195x12, 195x10/165x8/135x8 *drop set

Banded leg press (double mini) 1ppsx8, 2ppsx8, 3ppsx8, 4ppsx8, 5ppsx8, 6ppsx8, 7ppsx6, 7ppsx6, 7ppsx6/6ppsx6/5ppsx10/4ppsx10 *drop set

Smith machine squat: 225x15, 225x12, 245x10, 245x8 (these were harder than I thought)

Leg ext: 80x8, 95x8
SS
walking lunge w/db: 45x6, 45x6

18:00 PWO shake 3 scoops powder, 30g dextrose - 40g carbs
18:45 Chicken nugets - 45g carbs
19:00 cookie - 25g carbs
19:01 granola and yoghurt - 130g carbs
19:30 more granola and yoghurt - 130 carbs

TOTAL: 377

[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
I wish Kiefer would come out with a bit more of those looking to be in the 6% range. I’m in that 11-12% range and needing to be a bit lower to make weight for my meet without compromising strength. It’d be great if he’d weigh in more there.[/quote]
He has. Its called the Carb nite solution. [/quote]

To an extent, yes. Naomi has said that some changes would be made to CN, I have it and I just notice that my performance isn’t anything close to how it is versus CBL. Also, if I recall, Kiefer uses CBL more for himself and he is in that 6% range. I’d be curious if he used that to get down there and maintains around that level with CBL, or used CN to do so.

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:

[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
I wish Kiefer would come out with a bit more of those looking to be in the 6% range. I’m in that 11-12% range and needing to be a bit lower to make weight for my meet without compromising strength. It’d be great if he’d weigh in more there.[/quote]
He has. Its called the Carb nite solution. [/quote]

To an extent, yes. Naomi has said that some changes would be made to CN, I have it and I just notice that my performance isn’t anything close to how it is versus CBL. Also, if I recall, Kiefer uses CBL more for himself and he is in that 6% range. I’d be curious if he used that to get down there and maintains around that level with CBL, or used CN to do so.[/quote]
Its not surprising your performance drops on that. If you are after maximum fatloss you probably just need to focus on that for a short time and then maintain your new leanness and get back to performing how you want with CBL.

8:00 wake up
11:45 Huge omelet. 3egg, ham, cheese, sauerkraut, bean sprout - 8g carbs
14:15 protein shake - 6g carbs
15:00 GYM. Chesticles

Incline DB press: 75x8, 75x8, 75x8, 75x8

Smith machine declines: 185x25, 195x20, 205x12, 235x10/200xfail/150xfail * drop set

Banded bench double mini: 95x5, 95x5, 95x5, 95x5 focus was on speed

cable crossover 4 sets of 6

Seated overhead press in smith machine: 95x15, 105x12, 115x9

overhead DB press: 45x8, 45x8, 45x8

Rear delt raise 20x30/20/10 20x30/20/10 *drop sets, 10 sec between sets of reps

18:00 PWO shake - 40g carbs
19:00 6 slices of pizza - 150 carbs
19:20 Yoghurt and granola - 150g carbs
20:00 Smoothie - 20g carbs

TOTAL 374 carbs

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:

[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
I wish Kiefer would come out with a bit more of those looking to be in the 6% range. I’m in that 11-12% range and needing to be a bit lower to make weight for my meet without compromising strength. It’d be great if he’d weigh in more there.[/quote]
He has. Its called the Carb nite solution. [/quote]

To an extent, yes. Naomi has said that some changes would be made to CN, I have it and I just notice that my performance isn’t anything close to how it is versus CBL. Also, if I recall, Kiefer uses CBL more for himself and he is in that 6% range. I’d be curious if he used that to get down there and maintains around that level with CBL, or used CN to do so.[/quote]

One of his recent articles on his website said that’s what most of his clients did: Got to about 6% with CN, then maintained leanness while adding mass with CBL

Gained 5 pounds. My guess is the pizza. Perhaps that’s not the best for me. I’m thinking either sticking to rice and having a modest dessert, or eating things that don’t contain as much bread. Like a pie :slight_smile:

8:00 wake up
13:00 Reuben omelet + fiber shake and joint pills - 6g carbs
15:00 2 scoops proetin - 6g carbs
17:00 fiber shake + joint pills
20:00 8oz chicken + brocoli and a dash of caesar - 2g carbs
Daily tea drinking - 4g carbs
21:30 Protein shake + PB - 10g carbs

TOTAL: 26g carbs

I was eating a lot of shitty stuff and starting feel like shit. Now I mainly use a ton of rice and FINiBARs. I feel better and workouts have been great.

[quote]StateOfPsychosis wrote:
I was eating a lot of shitty stuff and starting feel like shit. Now I mainly use a ton of rice and finibars. I feel better and workouts have been great.[/quote]

Yeah Kiefer says don’t use the diet as an excuse to eat shit. And I have been. I’m going to keep the crazy stuff to just dessert and focus on the carbs coming from rice mostly.

[quote]Siouxfan wrote:

[quote]StateOfPsychosis wrote:
I was eating a lot of shitty stuff and starting feel like shit. Now I mainly use a ton of rice and finibars. I feel better and workouts have been great.[/quote]

Yeah Kiefer says don’t use the diet as an excuse to eat shit. And I have been. I’m going to keep the crazy stuff to just dessert and focus on the carbs coming from rice mostly. [/quote]

I started CBL in January and was eating basically whatever I wanted from the time I finished lifting until bed for my backloads. I lost weight from my prep phase (240-232) but then I was sitting stagnant around 235 for a long time.

Now I changed things around and for my backloads I generally do one meal after my PWO shake with white bread, pop tarts, maybe another type of dessert, and usually try to keep it all in one meal. This has been working much better for me and I am now consistently weighing around 228-229 in the mornings and I feel I have gained muscle from when I was 240.

Just like Kiefer/Naomi always say, use your body as a science experiment and figure out what works for you.

This week I swapped out my usual bowl of Muesli that I had with Steak, cottage cheese and salad at my last meal for a bowl of icecream. Result. Losing fat again while my calories have stayed the same or slightly increased. Hungrier than usual in mornings.

Any of you guys have access to a glucometer or get glucose labs done in the morning? I would be interested in seeing what your glucose levels are and how long it takes to reduce to “normal” levels with various types of food and sized carb loads and also how this relates to morning hunger and what not

I am so analytical that i hate just having subjective things to go by. I like numbers lol

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Any of you guys have access to a glucometer or get glucose labs done in the morning? I would be interested in seeing what your glucose levels are and how long it takes to reduce to “normal” levels with various types of food and sized carb loads and also how this relates to morning hunger and what not

I am so analytical that i hate just having subjective things to go by. I like numbers lol[/quote]

I would assume those are the prick your finger tests that diabetics use?

[quote]Siouxfan wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Any of you guys have access to a glucometer or get glucose labs done in the morning? I would be interested in seeing what your glucose levels are and how long it takes to reduce to “normal” levels with various types of food and sized carb loads and also how this relates to morning hunger and what not

I am so analytical that i hate just having subjective things to go by. I like numbers lol[/quote]

I would assume those are the prick your finger tests that diabetics use?[/quote]
In which case HELL NO! me and needles do not mix! Im happy with my subjective measures such as hunger and leanness!

It is one of those. Or if you get a panel run for blood test from a doc through a an actual lab. But the glucometer is much easier and you can do in your home whenever you want