[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
My Blacked out 2013 challenger r/t that i’ve been working on got side swiped on my way to work this morning. Lady wasn’t paying attention and tried to change lanes into my lane. She claimed she didn’t see my car because it was hard to see…WTF???
So…a car love thread…makes me sad right now…and happy at the same time. lol[/quote]
New pretty cars are a magnet for idiots just dying to put a dent in it somehow…Sorry man.[/quote]
Thanx pat, hopefully I’ll get the car back soon and keep tunning it up.[/quote]
the way ppl act these days towards nice vehicles is starting to make me want a new hobby, most people just dont give a fuck and figure A. screw them, theyre rich and can afford to fix it. or B. fuck them, i bet theyre attention seeking assholes anyways.[/quote]
I know, people are assholes, but the passion runs deep, you can’t just turn it off. And you have another hobby, lifting.[/quote]
I agree, that’s why im thinking of getting a diesel truck. Which unlike a car, i wont have to worry about pot holes, assholes hitting it with their doors, and can generally care less about the cosmetic things; and more about making power with it and blowing out black smoke.
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
My Blacked out 2013 challenger r/t that i’ve been working on got side swiped on my way to work this morning. Lady wasn’t paying attention and tried to change lanes into my lane. She claimed she didn’t see my car because it was hard to see…WTF???
So…a car love thread…makes me sad right now…and happy at the same time. lol[/quote]
New pretty cars are a magnet for idiots just dying to put a dent in it somehow…Sorry man.[/quote]
Thanx pat, hopefully I’ll get the car back soon and keep tunning it up.[/quote]
the way ppl act these days towards nice vehicles is starting to make me want a new hobby, most people just dont give a fuck and figure A. screw them, theyre rich and can afford to fix it. or B. fuck them, i bet theyre attention seeking assholes anyways.[/quote]
I know, people are assholes, but the passion runs deep, you can’t just turn it off. And you have another hobby, lifting.[/quote]
I agree, that’s why im thinking of getting a diesel truck. Which unlike a car, i wont have to worry about pot holes, assholes hitting it with their doors, and can generally care less about the cosmetic things; and more about making power with it and blowing out black smoke. [/quote]
They make some epic computer mods for the power stroke and the cummins engines that really release a ton of power…If you get one, chip it.
This is the car that Porsche and Ferrari wish did not exist. It’s not the prettiest thing, it’s design is well, not that impressive. What is impressive is the programming. The design is very simple, almost American. Take a solid foundation, put a big ass powerful motor in it and beef up the suspension. No big whoop…Then the programmers stepped in. The used computers to neutralize all the cars inherent design faults and made it epic. The Ferrari’s, 911 turbos and corvette ZR1’s of this world cannot out run it. They should, all of them are far better sheet designs, but they can’t, and it’s because of absolutely ingenious computer programing…Now that’s Japanees…
[quote]pat wrote:
but that won’t help much on track day any way. I just like big horse power.[/quote]
Sorry for the threadjack…
You do track days or race? That’s awesome and the number of people actually taking their performance cars to the track is as rare as people taking their SUVs off-road. Mas respect for tracking your car.
Now this car is a genius of design. Super tiny boosted aluminium V8. Light, clean, every single detail was considered. This car has a feature that I love, on high speed turn in, it uses a hydraulic piston on the inside wheels that lower that side of the car to give all 4 tires better bite into the turn. It also applies gentle brake presser on the inside rear wheel to help turn in. How the fuck can you not love that? The roadster is less than 100 pounds heavier than the coupe has the same rigidity.
Everybody is gaga over the monocoque. I think the suspension is the story…
[quote]pat wrote:
but that won’t help much on track day any way. I just like big horse power.[/quote]
Sorry for the threadjack…
You do track days or race? That’s awesome and the number of people actually taking their performance cars to the track is as rare as people taking their SUVs off-road. Mas respect for tracking your car.
james[/quote]
No. I don’t have the car or the money for it. I would love to do it one day. The car I am gunning for, which is the GT 500, wouldn’t be very good in the corners but it would rain hell in the straits. When money gets better, I may do this. My physical therapist is into it and he kept trying to convince me to run what I got. But I put a 1600 Watt system in the trunk so it wouldn’t be very good. It’s not a great car, but it’s got a GREAT stereo!
Now the Viper, is just a pure love affair. The traction control system is you. 600 HP totally the responsibility of the driver to control… I know the '13 has the government mandated nannies, I don’t want that I want the one that leave 2 foot sweat rings under your arm pits when you get out.
Ahhh, the Superbird. Up until very recently, this was the fastest American production car ever made. You want the one with the 426 Hemi which were dyno’d at 550 HP, though the factory was claiming only 425. The problem is they only made 93 with this configuration. But all the '70’s birds were really fast, with the 440 commando, 6-pack.
Of course touching one of these for under $200,000 is next to impossible unless you find a barn find in need of a restore and a dum-dum who has no idea what they have. But WHAT A CAR!
1970 was the peak year for American Muscle. That’s right before Nixon and his cronies murdered the American car industry. Burn in hell Nixon!
Another car I absolutely love, the 1970 GTO Judge. Came with either a 360 HP 400 ciu, or a 455 HO “rated” at 350 HP (but 500 lbs of torque.) You can’t go wrong with either. You can’t touch them anymore, but I always had a big erection for this car.
My other favorite year for the GTO was the '64. That was before there was any pollution control or anything. Just a raw ass car with a 4 on the floor…
Okay, quiz time, does anybody here have a clue what the hell this car is? tick…tick…tick…tick, ding! Times up!
This is a 1978 Dodge Magnum. Dodge only made this car for 2 years and it was a complete piece of shit. It had a 400 cui motor which produced a whopping 190 HP…what a crime. HOWEVER, I always loved the way this car looked.
It is a dream of mine to find a salvageable version of this car and make it what it should have been. Give it the resto-mod treatment. Rebuild it with all the goodies underneath that would make this a good and fast car, but keep the look of the original with just some minor tweaks.
This would be a labor of love only, the car isn’t worth shit. But I like the car, I always thought it was beautiful.
It’s a shame the industry was the way is was. We actually had this (not the one in the picture) car new. 5 miles from the dealership, the entire electrical system went out, nice. It was a pretty piece of shit
[quote]pat wrote:
No. I don’t have the car or the money for it. I would love to do it one day. The car I am gunning for, which is the GT 500, wouldn’t be very good in the corners but it would rain hell in the straits. When money gets better, I may do this. My physical therapist is into it and he kept trying to convince me to run what I got. But I put a 1600 Watt system in the trunk so it wouldn’t be very good. It’s not a great car, but it’s got a GREAT stereo![/quote]
If you get the chance I would highly recommend trying it and I wouldn’t wait for the “perfect” car to do it. You should be able to find something trackable fairly cheap. I do track days on my bike and am amazed at the difference it made in my street riding. I read earlier in this thread about how someone crashed their Scion because they swerved to miss a crate. I know from experience on the track that the answer isn’t to swerve but to hold your line or to read the road much more further ahead and prepare for hazards. It also takes away some of the “I need to haul ass in the straights” desire because it’s nowhere near as fun as letting it all hang out in the corner.
My wife’s boss races Alfa’s and loves it. He got the car pretty cheaply and hits our local tracks. He’s a pretty frugal guy so I know it can be done on the cheap if you want to.
[quote]pat wrote:
No. I don’t have the car or the money for it. I would love to do it one day. The car I am gunning for, which is the GT 500, wouldn’t be very good in the corners but it would rain hell in the straits. When money gets better, I may do this. My physical therapist is into it and he kept trying to convince me to run what I got. But I put a 1600 Watt system in the trunk so it wouldn’t be very good. It’s not a great car, but it’s got a GREAT stereo![/quote]
If you get the chance I would highly recommend trying it and I wouldn’t wait for the “perfect” car to do it. You should be able to find something trackable fairly cheap. I do track days on my bike and am amazed at the difference it made in my street riding. I read earlier in this thread about how someone crashed their Scion because they swerved to miss a crate. I know from experience on the track that the answer isn’t to swerve but to hold your line or to read the road much more further ahead and prepare for hazards. It also takes away some of the “I need to haul ass in the straights” desire because it’s nowhere near as fun as letting it all hang out in the corner.
My wife’s boss races Alfa’s and loves it. He got the car pretty cheaply and hits our local tracks. He’s a pretty frugal guy so I know it can be done on the cheap if you want to.
Anyway, back to car talk.
james
[/quote]
That is car talk,
Is that Alfa Romeos? I kind of resent there aren’t Alfa Romeos in the US.
I really like the Italian design.
( And I would get the diesel engine on this wagon.)
What bike do you race? I nearly brought my Aprilia 125 racing but gave up because it was too much money to import a two stroke and not be allowed to ride it on the street.
[quote]pat wrote:
No. I don’t have the car or the money for it. I would love to do it one day. The car I am gunning for, which is the GT 500, wouldn’t be very good in the corners but it would rain hell in the straits. When money gets better, I may do this. My physical therapist is into it and he kept trying to convince me to run what I got. But I put a 1600 Watt system in the trunk so it wouldn’t be very good. It’s not a great car, but it’s got a GREAT stereo![/quote]
If you get the chance I would highly recommend trying it and I wouldn’t wait for the “perfect” car to do it. You should be able to find something trackable fairly cheap. I do track days on my bike and am amazed at the difference it made in my street riding. I read earlier in this thread about how someone crashed their Scion because they swerved to miss a crate. I know from experience on the track that the answer isn’t to swerve but to hold your line or to read the road much more further ahead and prepare for hazards. It also takes away some of the “I need to haul ass in the straights” desire because it’s nowhere near as fun as letting it all hang out in the corner.
My wife’s boss races Alfa’s and loves it. He got the car pretty cheaply and hits our local tracks. He’s a pretty frugal guy so I know it can be done on the cheap if you want to.
Anyway, back to car talk.
james
[/quote]
It’s not about having a ‘perfect car’ just a better one for said track days. I drive an old 02’ Nissan spec v. At the very least I would need to put some good rubber on it. But the car is a FWD, under-steers like a mother fucker and has serious issues with torque steer as well. Like if I had an old Miata, that would be a very doable track day car.
That being said, that massive stereo in the back I believe would help the cornering advantage, while the over all car is heavier, the weight distribution is more balanced, but still under-steers badly. Hurts the take off as it sends even more weight to the rear, but corners better with a more balanced chassis. Plus, I can jam with a vengeance the whole time.
It’s not even close to a trackable car. I would have to invest in suspension upgrades and shit where I would much rather put that money toward a better over all car, and let this one be my daily driver; which is my plan.
[quote]pat wrote:
No. I don’t have the car or the money for it. I would love to do it one day. The car I am gunning for, which is the GT 500, wouldn’t be very good in the corners but it would rain hell in the straits. When money gets better, I may do this. My physical therapist is into it and he kept trying to convince me to run what I got. But I put a 1600 Watt system in the trunk so it wouldn’t be very good. It’s not a great car, but it’s got a GREAT stereo![/quote]
If you get the chance I would highly recommend trying it and I wouldn’t wait for the “perfect” car to do it. You should be able to find something trackable fairly cheap. I do track days on my bike and am amazed at the difference it made in my street riding. I read earlier in this thread about how someone crashed their Scion because they swerved to miss a crate. I know from experience on the track that the answer isn’t to swerve but to hold your line or to read the road much more further ahead and prepare for hazards. It also takes away some of the “I need to haul ass in the straights” desire because it’s nowhere near as fun as letting it all hang out in the corner.
My wife’s boss races Alfa’s and loves it. He got the car pretty cheaply and hits our local tracks. He’s a pretty frugal guy so I know it can be done on the cheap if you want to.
Anyway, back to car talk.
james
[/quote]
That is car talk,
Is that Alfa Romeos? I kind of resent there aren’t Alfa Romeos in the US.
I really like the Italian design.
( And I would get the diesel engine on this wagon.)
What bike do you race? I nearly brought my Aprilia 125 racing but gave up because it was too much money to import a two stroke and not be allowed to ride it on the street.
It was s super responsive bike.
[/quote]
Alpha is supposedly intending on coming back to the American market. You seem to have a fondness for deisels, you must like your rides long, slow and hard while carrying a heavy load.
[quote]pat wrote:
No. I don’t have the car or the money for it. I would love to do it one day. The car I am gunning for, which is the GT 500, wouldn’t be very good in the corners but it would rain hell in the straits. When money gets better, I may do this. My physical therapist is into it and he kept trying to convince me to run what I got. But I put a 1600 Watt system in the trunk so it wouldn’t be very good. It’s not a great car, but it’s got a GREAT stereo![/quote]
If you get the chance I would highly recommend trying it and I wouldn’t wait for the “perfect” car to do it. You should be able to find something trackable fairly cheap. I do track days on my bike and am amazed at the difference it made in my street riding. I read earlier in this thread about how someone crashed their Scion because they swerved to miss a crate. I know from experience on the track that the answer isn’t to swerve but to hold your line or to read the road much more further ahead and prepare for hazards. It also takes away some of the “I need to haul ass in the straights” desire because it’s nowhere near as fun as letting it all hang out in the corner.
My wife’s boss races Alfa’s and loves it. He got the car pretty cheaply and hits our local tracks. He’s a pretty frugal guy so I know it can be done on the cheap if you want to.
Anyway, back to car talk.
james
[/quote]
That is car talk,
Is that Alfa Romeos? I kind of resent there aren’t Alfa Romeos in the US.
I really like the Italian design.
( And I would get the diesel engine on this wagon.)
What bike do you race? I nearly brought my Aprilia 125 racing but gave up because it was too much money to import a two stroke and not be allowed to ride it on the street.
It was s super responsive bike.
[/quote]
Alpha is supposedly intending on coming back to the American market. You seem to have a fondness for deisels, you must like your rides long, slow and hard while carrying a heavy load.[/quote]
I’ve got my eye on the BMW 335d. It is supposed to have face-flattening torque and coupled with a 8 speed has serious top-end. If it had all-wheel drive I’d be in for sure.
[quote]pat wrote:
You seem to have a fondness for deisels, you must like your rides long, slow and hard while carrying a heavy load.[/quote]
I live in fear of a $300 speeding ticket. And a smudge on my driving record.
I regret deeply that in spite of America having such wide and long roads, one does not have the freedom one has in England to drive fast and not be immediately punished for pushing the outside of the envelope a little bit.
In England the outside lane of the freeway is for overtaking only.
Everybody respects that and you often experience cars wheezing through at 120 mph and the cops do not go after you for it as long as you do not abuse it.
I think it is terribly ironic America is all about horse power and you have to stay at 70 mph.
It really does not make any sense to me at all.
Also I am still thinking diesel being cheaper than gas which in Europe it is but not here.
Even if not cheaper it does get better mpg and I hate stopping to fill up.
I love that diesel makes it for a more durable engine and that means less repairs also.
Since I can’t go fast on the highway, get better mpg in spite of not being cheaper than gas ( which there is no reason it should not be ) and get a better quality engine, and only want to transport paddle boards and surfboards to beach destinations ( hence the sports wagon ) - having a mule is better than a racing horse for this purpose.
A relentless, durable and strong engine is more suitable to surf and shooting trips.
Hubby also has a KTM 525 SMR and ( when he puts that in working order again ) we may want to tow that along also.
I’ve got my eye on the BMW 335d. It is supposed to have face-flattening torque and coupled with a 8 speed has serious top-end. If it had all-wheel drive I’d be in for sure.
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Since I can’t go fast on the highway, get better mpg in spite of not being cheaper than gas ( which there is no reason it should not be )
[/quote]
I stand corrected on that statement:
Husband says it costs more to make diesel and the reason it is cheaper in England is because they tax gasoline more.
