[quote]FutureGL wrote:
bs on the sprinter’s 405 bench?[/quote]
I would also bs his 11in biceps.
That entire series is fucked up.
damn that is some bounce he gives his chest!
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]Raw Meat wrote:
That was wrong. he made that look to easy. fuck. [/quote]
Anyone benching fake plates had better make it look easy, or something is wrong[/quote]
Fake plates?? What makes them fake plates?
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
[quote]FutureGL wrote:
bs on the sprinter’s 405 bench?[/quote]
I would also bs his 11in biceps.
That entire series is fucked up. [/quote]
Pretty much. I’m more likely to believe that than the bf% they give for him.
[quote]mattho wrote:
It looks so much like fake weight.[/quote]
just crawl back to youtube or something and give comments over there…
[quote]thefederalist wrote:
[quote]schism45 wrote:
Absolute beast strength.
Why does he like to bounce so hard?[/quote]
athletes tend to throw caution to the wind in lifting oftentimes. generalization, i know, but after seeing the national champion iowa wrestling team bench i realize what horsing the weight up really means. [/quote]
Could someone please give me a link to this video? I have heard about it but I haven’t seen it and I am rather curious…
Thanks
http://www.flowrestling.org/videos/coverage/view_video/234380/9592-iowa-lift
I think there’s better way to do these things, but it clearly works for them.
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
http://www.flowrestling.org/videos/coverage/view_video/234380/9592-iowa-lift
I think there’s better way to do these things, but it clearly works for them. [/quote]
Thanks.
Yeah, it does work well for them… I think it works better to think of their strength training as more of GPP type work and conditioning. The biggest thing I didn’t like was the pull ups… (not saying I really enjoyed the form on the rest of them, however).
I guess I understand that they focus a lot on pushing themselves hard and using their whole bodies… in that way it seems they are approaching it similar to how strong man exercises can be approached - less technical; they focus on just “horsing the weight around”… The pull ups bothered me significantly because, being a wrestler myself, I have felt that pulling occurs very frequently and pull ups target the muscles and, to an extent, the movements that often occur in wrestling.
With the other exercises the cheating in the lift would be something of a conditioning tool in itself (for example, the hip thrusts in an attempt to curl 165 lbs), but when they kick to try to do the half pull up, they aren’t doing the full ROM and I have difficulty rationalizing the cheating as being any type of conditioning.
[quote]TheDozer97 wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
http://www.flowrestling.org/videos/coverage/view_video/234380/9592-iowa-lift
I think there’s better way to do these things, but it clearly works for them. [/quote]
Thanks.
Yeah, it does work well for them… I think it works better to think of their strength training as more of GPP type work and conditioning. The biggest thing I didn’t like was the pull ups… (not saying I really enjoyed the form on the rest of them, however).
I guess I understand that they focus a lot on pushing themselves hard and using their whole bodies… in that way it seems they are approaching it similar to how strong man exercises can be approached - less technical; they focus on just “horsing the weight around”… The pull ups bothered me significantly because, being a wrestler myself, I have felt that pulling occurs very frequently and pull ups target the muscles and, to an extent, the movements that often occur in wrestling.
With the other exercises the cheating in the lift would be something of a conditioning tool in itself (for example, the hip thrusts in an attempt to curl 165 lbs), but when they kick to try to do the half pull up, they aren’t doing the full ROM and I have difficulty rationalizing the cheating as being any type of conditioning.
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No problem. I just graduated from Skutt Catholic High School in Omaha, NE. It’s been a state wrestling power and top high school nationally for the past few years, especially from 2007-2008. The strength coach at my high school is absolutely terrific and he does things a little differently from how Iowa seems to structure their program. (Note: I am in no way stating that Skutt and Iowa are equivalent, even though the Skyhawk and the Hawkeye programs are very tightly bound. lol.)
Months away from the high school season while the wrestlers are doing freestyle/greco or whatever, the coach has them build on their power doing lower reps/more max effort style work. He does this to get them stronger, help them move up a weight, etc. At this time, the workouts are very similar to the football workouts.
A few weeks before preseason practices start, the focus shifts to minute sets. Here the athletes do the core lifts as well as dips, pushups, step-ups for minute intervals with partners and use weights that vary based on their weight classes.
During the season, the workouts drop to 3 a week and lessen in intensity, as weights are being lifted in practice as well.
I’ve noticed that wrestlers rarely have ‘good’ form on any exercise, from hang clean to squats. This is from the JV wrestlers to the national champions. I have friends who wrestle/wrestled at Navy, UNO, St. Cloud and other programs and they tell me the same thing about their lifting. I’m sure the same type of thing likely happens at your college. I don’t feel that the development of strength through weight training and the use of ‘good’ form is completely necessary to be highly successful at wrestling. It’s a highly technical sport and much of the strength needed is built on the mats in practice.
Of course, you know all this, so I’m not sure why I’m spewing out all this information =) I guess I just think my high school’s method is very good. I’m probably grossly oversimplifying his thinking process behind all this though.
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
[quote]FutureGL wrote:
bs on the sprinter’s 405 bench?[/quote]
I would also bs his 11in biceps.
That entire series is fucked up. [/quote]
Agreed. I find it hard to believe that CC is at 15% BF in that picture.
[quote]rasturai wrote:
15% bf?..no. Very strong guy but I doubt that, not that it’s overly relevant