[quote]Amiright wrote:
to avoid quoting anything and sense this thread has been thoroughly high jacked… I believe a lot is being lost in translation. You still seem to completely miss what I’m trying to say.
You argue that its ridiculous for anyone in high school to have to study… I keep showing you how its not. Not sure how else to explain ap courses…
and when I say a class is for fun I’m referring to elective courses… those are courses that aren’t required for graduation… they are in no way any worse or taught at a lower level. I took modern physics last quarter as well in college as an elective course… and It was fairly similar to my high school counter part just a little more in depth.
you are missing the point as well when you refer to China etc… there is a billion people… you have to be the BEST that’s why they study so much… no one gives 2 shits if you make it through. Where as here there isn’t as much competition
edit: its also become obvious that courses I refer too translate completely differently to you… as far as calc… is covers differentiation integration series etc… different schools split them up differently. And also when I say people take certain classes earlier its because they’re ahead of the curve… that’s why they go to certain schools etc…
s collage sequence would look like calc 1-2-3 then multivariable and diffe q [/quote]
who gives a shit if this cyberspace is highjacked. I think I made clear what was what was my initial point.now If you would just read my 2-3 last post you would see that the only thing I am trying to do is to make my initial point clear.As I said high School where you live is not high school where I live that is why you misinterpreted what I was trying to say. Picture the last 2 years of your high school cutted and you have mine that last 5 years to that.
I dont have the time now everything I wanted to say has been written
Dick waving about high school? I mean at least do it about how awsome you were or your team was in sports. But about how hard your school was? Come on guys, it’s ok to hijack a thread with hot chick pics. This however is a little stupid, take it to PM’s if you really want to clarify whatever stupid off topic points your tyring to make here.
Jasmin and Amiright, I think part of the discrepency lies in differences in educational systems. In Quebec where Jasmin is talking about (Jasmin correct me if I’m wrong), “high school” ends at “sec 5” ie. Canadian/American equivalent of grade 10. From there they go to CEGEP which is the Canadian equivalent of college and the American equivalent of trade school.
Once this stage is complete they can apply to university, or the American equivalent of college. Jasmin are you talking about up to the completion of high school/sec5? Or also referring to CEGEP when you say high school?
[quote]JLu wrote:
Jasmin and Amiright, I think part of the discrepency lies in differences in educational systems. In Quebec where Jasmin is talking about (Jasmin correct me if I’m wrong), “high school” ends at “sec 5” ie. Canadian/American equivalent of grade 10. From there they go to CEGEP which is the Canadian equivalent of college and the American equivalent of trade school.
Once this stage is complete they can apply to university, or the American equivalent of college. Jasmin are you talking about up to the completion of high school/sec5? Or also referring to CEGEP when you say high school?[/quote]
LOL are you saying McGill University is the equivalent to an America college?
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Dick waving about high school? I mean at least do it about how awsome you were or your team was in sports. But about how hard your school was? Come on guys, it’s ok to hijack a thread with hot chick pics. This however is a little stupid, take it to PM’s if you really want to clarify whatever stupid off topic points your tyring to make here.
[quote]JLu wrote:
Jasmin and Amiright, I think part of the discrepency lies in differences in educational systems. In Quebec where Jasmin is talking about (Jasmin correct me if I’m wrong), “high school” ends at “sec 5” ie. Canadian/American equivalent of grade 10. From there they go to CEGEP which is the Canadian equivalent of college and the American equivalent of trade school.
Once this stage is complete they can apply to university, or the American equivalent of college. Jasmin are you talking about up to the completion of high school/sec5? Or also referring to CEGEP when you say high school?[/quote]
LOL are you saying McGill University is the equivalent to an America college?[/quote]
What Americans call “college” we call “university” in Canada.
What Americans call “trade school” we call “college” in Canada.
ie. An American would say “I’m in college” if they attended Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Stanford/Berkley/MIT etc. So yes, McGill is a college in the American system.
Lol at the whole genetics/ talent is overated fad lately. (not talking bout you guys in the thread). Like I see all of these books now on the bestseller list with the “brilliant” idea that if you practice something you will get better! Seriously malcom the assclown gladwell made one then there was that one talent is overated and now superfreakanomics.
Like really jesus these fucking nerds needed like studies and shit and just thigured this out so they write a book on it. “deliberate practice” is the new super special method of training. WOW thanks for the cutting edge of perfermormance practice ! never would of guessed.
LOL really shows you listen to the guys who do things not the lab coat nerds. (any damn high school coach in the wold will tell you you need to practice skills to get good). And the other brilliant hypothosis from superfreakanomics “if you spend all day playing a sport since you are one years old you will get good at that sport” BRILLANT!!! thank you genius best selling authors.
Does the general public really not know this shit? Like the people buying these best selling books are supposed to be the smart ones cmon.
But guys no shit genetics, drive,toughness and practice all play a factor. I don’t know how you can argue that genetics don’t matter or that practice has no effect (not saying any of you made that claim.
I don’t need to give examples of each there are tons of guys who suck and take forever to get better working there ass of and getting good ,guys who suck work there ass of and still suck , talented guys who who don’t practice and get beat out and talented guys who do nothing who mess up everyone. You’ve seen examples of all of these if you don’t live under a rock.
Einstein is a great example of intellegence/brain adaptation we don’t know how smart he originally was but he trained himself to be a genius since he was constantly createing more complicated problems curiositys and pictures in his mind. But his amazing desire for knowledge and curiosity was in fact genetic. So the hard worker passionate guy also is suceeding genetically.
Another interesting fact newton likely had aspergers syndrome causeing him to genetically be socially retarted (could improve i suppose but obviously genetics play a huge factor there) but could have caused his amazing calculating ability.
But there are so many genetic factors other than talent. Like I said genetic interest in chosen path genetic drive genetic confidence to suceed . Genetics also causes how people react to environment (one guy gets abused as a kid becomes serial killer another uses it to drive him to achievement). Also a big thing work capactiy some people like edison einstein had the ability to stay up for nights keeping focus (also partially trained) and same with sports some guys can take a higher practice volume of others no matter how much they train work capacity.
So in concusion both are real important and the level of importance of each factor differs in each situation.
What gets me…are the people who felt the need to shit on this guy’s progress.
If you see something like this and the first thing you harp on is whether he used steroids or you start implying that he will die soon, you are probably on the wrong forum.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What gets me…are the people who felt the need to shit on this guy’s progress.
If you see something like this and the first thing you harp on is whether he used steroids or you start implying that he will die soon, you are probably on the wrong forum.
Some of the people here suck.[/quote]
You always bitch about the same things.
You’re gonna have retards come in and shit all over him. This is true for everything in life.
You know better and know you are better.
Just ignore them and move on, christ.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What gets me…are the people who felt the need to shit on this guy’s progress.
If you see something like this and the first thing you harp on is whether he used steroids or you start implying that he will die soon, you are probably on the wrong forum.
Some of the people here suck.[/quote]
You always bitch about the same things.
You’re gonna have retards come in and shit all over him. This is true for everything in life.
You know better and know you are better.
Just ignore them and move on, christ.[/quote]
Why are you bitching because I’m bitching?
No, I doubt I will be ignoring all instances of this. I think I will continue to point out the stupidity of logging onto a site called “testosterone” yet trying to call out people with big muscles.
You really missed the point of superfreakonomics. Its interesting statistical approach using economic tools they apply to all sorts of situations because the analysis is interesting, not because a side is being argued. The talent part is just a small section, and there are some really interesting trends noted in it. Like the disproportionate distribution of birthdays throughout the calendar year for a given sport, as I mentioned.
He also takes a look into why so many professional athletes raise professional athletes and what happens when you adjust for genetic inheritance vs. adoptive children.
Anyways, my whole point being, if someone is better than you at something, it’s most probably because they work harder at it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What gets me…are the people who felt the need to shit on this guy’s progress.
If you see something like this and the first thing you harp on is whether he used steroids or you start implying that he will die soon, you are probably on the wrong forum.
Some of the people here suck.[/quote]
I am not sure on the motives of people saying he’s on steroids. But the people saying he will suffer the consequences and die etc. are wishing that on him. That is unbeleiveable how disturbed are they that they wish that on someone just for suceeding or makeing them feel insecure or whatever the hell it is. It’s just fucked up to wish failure or especially SICKNESS and DEATH on someone they’ve never met.
You really missed the point of superfreakonomics. Its interesting statistical approach using economic tools they apply to all sorts of situations because the analysis is interesting, not because a side is being argued. The talent part is just a small section, and there are some really interesting trends noted in it. Like the disproportionate distribution of birthdays throughout the calendar year for a given sport, as I mentioned.
He also takes a look into why so many professional athletes raise professional athletes and what happens when you adjust for genetic inheritance vs. adoptive children.
Anyways, my whole point being, if someone is better than you at something, it’s most probably because they work harder at it.[/quote]
K gotcha.
Superfreakanomics isn’t the main book. Just has the same concepts of talent is overated, and gladwells books both have the birthday thing which is pretty interesting gladwells was the worst he works hard to discredit hard work AND talent basically saying you put anyone in the world in say bill gates situation or einsteins theyd achieve the same don’t like that pussy knocking people down.
Anyway just I found it so funny the bestseller TALENT IS OVERATED and you’ve got all these like 30 something year olds reading it freaking out like omg look what I just read this is crazy I never knew this about stuff any 13 year old on middle school sport team will tell you. Just 200 pages describing this "new’ concept of “deliberate practice” Its the “secret of those who suceed”.
and it is basically the same thing showing up in a bunch of bestsellers now (what I said had nothing to do with uour point or what you said just reminded me of it since I;ve seen it in a lot of books now). I just can’t beleive people need a book to explain this to them are these people who need this book to learn this actually going to achieve anything? Damn I need to get into the self help/stupid fad book industry people will buy anything.
Another gem of self help books to achieve something you need to beleive you can achieve it. REALLY? I am just getting sick of these bullshit magic pills and secrets and shit. Like cmon selling practice as a secret pill? It’s a joke but hey at least it works.
Secret pill stuff doesn’t apply to freakanomics just the talent is overated book those more I just hink are funny about useing all this statistics. I mean look at any wrestling room what your being taught about putting in the time etc. and it needs a book with statistics to replace life experiences for the general public .
