Can't Catch a Break

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[quote]rangertab75 wrote:
rangertab75

You’re right–marines aren’t war crazy. Marines aren’t taught to kill. And most of all thay are never brainwashed by their training.

Yes everynight before rack time I would mockingly yell “kill, kill, kill” before jumping into my rack–reminding myself not to take anyting I learned in the military too seriously.

That must be that new shit called sarcasm. OK, I’m used to that from Marines. Let me rephrase…YOU must be war crazy, and most other Marines are not. If they are, then they obviously haven’t been to war. I’ve been to war and I can tell you that it ain’t no fucking picnic. It sucks and it sure as hell isn’t easy killing someone…kinda weighs on your conscience ya know? Especially when you have to shoot a kid going to grab an RPG. If you’ve ever been to war away from your family, friends, living out of a fucking hole as a sandstorm is coming in, haven’t had a shower in 3 weeks, lost some of your buddies, know you ain’t going home for a long fucking time, and scared absolutely shitless, you would agree with me that war sucks, and if you like it; you are one sick motherfucker.

I hate it when cherry infantrymen always brag about how they can’t wait to go to war, love war, can’t wait to put a bullet in some Iraqi’s ass, cause when the chips are on the table, they start shitting their pants saying they miss their mommy as I’m trying to plug their sucking chest wound. And when they finally get to “put a bullet in some Iraqi’s ass” and kill the guy, they don’t talk for days just thinking about the LIFE they had just ended. I’ve seen career infantry men that have been in for many years cry because of what war does to men.

So…the next time you say that Marines are war-crazy; make sure you ask the fucking guys that have actually been to war. They’ll tell ya how much they’re crazy about it. RLTW

rangertab75[/quote]

Rangertab,

You are totally Walter from the Big Leboski.

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[quote]BitterBuffalo wrote:
Nobody has answered that question in this thread? I wasn’t looking for sympathy fellas, and I don’t think I got my ass handed to me either. I’m just pointing out the fact that this forum is filled with conservative minded people who really dislike my views. I don’t cry over what some geek in cyberspace feels about my post. HAHA, give me a break guys.[/quote]

Yet you’ll get on here and start a ‘poor me’ thread. Why? What’s the point? FYI it wasn’t just conservatives that were handing you your ass time and again.

Funny thing is - you started this thread crying about how mean everyone is to you and you’ve yet to espouse a single belief except for the one where the pro-war crowd is a bunch of cheerleaders.

Maybe it’s time you found another website to frequent. You don’t have the balls to play here.

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[quote]BitterBuffalo wrote:
Rangertab,

You are totally Walter from the Big Leboski. [/quote]

That was over the line smokey!

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[quote]BitterBuffalo wrote:
This is a great site but I have to say that this political forum is full of cheesetastic patriotic ra-ra boys. Okay, maybe not all of you but those who seem to have a major problem with me because I do not support the idea that our forces should be in Iraq.

So could someone without flaming me, tell me what you feel, “Supporting the Troops” means.

Cause everytime I open my mouth around here I get every Johnny Tuffnuts on this board coming down on me.

I feel as though I’m supporting the troops more than those who appease the actions of this administration by saying “ra ra, kick some ass boys”. I feel like I am more of a friend to the American soldier by saying, “This war is wrong and you don’t deserve this, you shouldn’t be doing your job over there, you should be home and safe untill God forbid, you are needed at home.”[/quote]

Rainjackoff, read the question in the middle of this post. That’s my question on this post. I also stated the fact that you, amongst others, feel it neccesary to make personal attacks on me. Which doesn’t bother me, it’s just interesting to see that a guy can get such violent reactions for disagreeing about the crime in Iraq. I’m not losing sleep over it fella, trust me. You and Rangertab seem to be the worst of all. Rambo, err, excuse me, Rangertab and yourself need to settle down.

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
BitterBuffalo wrote:
Rangertab,

You are totally Walter from the Big Leboski.

That was over the line smokey![/quote]

LITICVS, it was kind of funny though, right? Honestly?

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[quote]BitterBuffalo wrote:
This is a great site but I have to say that this political forum is full of cheesetastic patriotic ra-ra boys. Okay, maybe not all of you but those who seem to have a major problem with me because I do not support the idea that our forces should be in Iraq.

So could someone without flaming me, tell me what you feel, “Supporting the Troops” means.

Cause everytime I open my mouth around here I get every Johnny Tuffnuts on this board coming down on me.

I feel as though I’m supporting the troops more than those who appease the actions of this administration by saying “ra ra, kick some ass boys”. I feel like I am more of a friend to the American soldier by saying, “This war is wrong and you don’t deserve this, you shouldn’t be doing your job over there, you should be home and safe untill God forbid, you are needed at home.”[/quote]

BuffaloShit -

Here’s your post - your original post. You start out calling people names, then you want an answer to a question - “without flaming” you. You want to call people names, run down their beliefs, and then have the vagina to not want to get flamed.

Sorry to break it to you BuffaloShit - but you’re not going to get an answer to your question. No one cares enough about you to give your worthless postions a place at the table. Respect breeds respect - and you have none.

I take pride in knowing that a cumlicker like you is out there taking offense at my beliefs. Means I must be doing something right.

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[quote]BitterBuffalo wrote:

Rainjackoff, read the question in the middle of this post. That’s my question on this post. I also stated the fact that you, amongst others, feel it neccesary to make personal attacks on me. Which doesn’t bother me, it’s just interesting to see that a guy can get such violent reactions for disagreeing about the crime in Iraq. I’m not losing sleep over it fella, trust me. You and Rangertab seem to be the worst of all. Rambo, err, excuse me, Rangertab and yourself need to settle down.[/quote]

Dude, you’ve done nothing but sling shit and call people names with each post.
That’s very very uncool, and frankly I’m shocked that it’s allowed, given the directives that have come down lately about needing to tone this place down.
Shit, I know I’ve gotten busted for saying a hell of a lot less then you.
So why don’t you take it outside until you can play nice–or until you get hit by a bus, whichever comes first.

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Good job Rainjack!
Unfortunately this asshole doesn’t deserve the time, effort or energy of talent like that.
I move that we just let this bitter idiot who somehow thinks he deserves an answer slip into the past.
Ignore him and everything he posts.

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Conspiracy?

Bravery is not the romantic, spoon fed crap that you watch in the movies. Anytime someone asks a question that pisses someone off–it’s brave. In my opinion. Bravery is doing something withour regaurd to reprisal, withour regaurd of consequence. When someones asks a question that is not in line with popular thought they force people to think outside themselves.

I never said I was brave. I asked our friend not to riducule people who are brave enough to ask questions.[/quote]

You paraphrase my statements thinking you know me? Everything I do for my country is not because of fear of reprisal. You are sadly misguided!!!

I’m quite happy with supporting our government’s campaign. Bravery has nothing to do with it…

You talk about how you served your country. However, the only words coming from you are disregard for its goals. When did you decide to turn your back on your country? When did you decide to commit mutiny?!?!

OD

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[quote]vroom wrote:

I’m not questioning the concept of loyalty or patriotism, just such a juvenile view of what such a thing actually is.[/quote]

??? What’s juvenile about supporting your country ???

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[quote]Original_Demon wrote:
You talk about how you served your country. However, the only words coming from you are disregard for its goals. When did you decide to turn your back on your country? When did you decide to commit mutiny?!?!

OD
[/quote]

Mutiny? So far i hear conspiracy and mutiny–both of which I know little about. Mutiny implies I tried to take command in lieu of letting someone else do their job.

Turning my back on my country?? That hurts. Just because I don’t support this war does not mean I don’t care about the people fighting it. Saying I support the troops is a little overboard. I don’t consider waiving a yellow ribbon support. I want them home that is the extent of my support. I feel sorry for the situation most of these men and women have put themselves in.

When one signs a contract to join the military they cannot know for certain their leaders are going to have the scrupples to lead them.

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
BitterBuffalo wrote:
Rangertab,

You are totally Walter from the Big Leboski.

That was over the line smokey![/quote]

Oh shit!! I missed that reference the first time I read it. That was a great flick.

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[quote]BitterBuffalo wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
BitterBuffalo wrote:
Rangertab,

You are totally Walter from the Big Leboski.

That was over the line smokey!

LITICVS, it was kind of funny though, right? Honestly?[/quote]

I can’t get sun glassed Walter pointing a baretta 9mm at Smokey for stepping over the line out of my head. “This is not Nam. This is bowling. There are rules.”

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[quote]Original_Demon wrote:
vroom wrote:

I’m not questioning the concept of loyalty or patriotism, just such a juvenile view of what such a thing actually is.

??? What’s juvenile about supporting your country ???[/quote]

OD–supporting your coutry would mean taking a stand on something, and in some people’s worlds, that’s a very hard and wrong thing to do.

I don’t understand it myself…

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
BitterBuffalo wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
BitterBuffalo wrote:
Rangertab,

You are totally Walter from the Big Leboski.

That was over the line smokey!

LITICVS, it was kind of funny though, right? Honestly?

I can’t get sun glassed Walter pointing a baretta 9mm at Smokey for stepping over the line out of my head. “This is not Nam. This is bowling. There are rules.”[/quote]

I’ve actually never seen the Big Lebowski. If saying I’m Walter was meant to be an insult; then fuck you. If not, fuck you anyway. God bless. RLTW

rangertab75

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[quote]rangertab75 wrote:
I’ve actually never seen the Big Lebowski. If saying I’m Walter was meant to be an insult; then fuck you. If not, fuck you anyway. God bless. RLTW

rangertab75[/quote]

No it’s not an insult. Walter is a spiffy bowler. Isn’t RLTW from LOTR?

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RLTW = Rangers Lead The Way.

Not from a fantasy movie.

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[quote]vroom wrote:
You seem to be asking me; where does this government’s loyalty lie? When you should be asking me… Where does my loyalty lie…?

Your country is not your government. Your government is not your country.

I’m not questioning the concept of loyalty or patriotism, just such a juvenile view of what such a thing actually is.[/quote]

LOL

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[quote]
Original_Demon wrote:

??? What’s juvenile about supporting your country ???

Joe Weider wrote:

OD–supporting your coutry would mean taking a stand on something, and in some people’s worlds, that’s a very hard and wrong thing to do.

I don’t understand it myself…
[/quote]

Joe, you simply read whatever you want to read into my posts, not what I actually put in them. A stand isn’t only taking a stance that agrees with the government or other institution you happen to be in favor of.

OD, I’m not trying to suggest that supporting your country is juvenille at all. Perhaps you missed my point?

I’m not a peacenik, and I know of no such way, but if someone truly had a way to end terrorism and bring a reasonable peace without bloodshed, would it be good for your country? Sure, it would save lives and help the economy, presumably.

What if the government opposed this plan, perhaps due to the egos involved in a situation or any other reason you could view as not good (imagine it being Clinton with the wrong reasons if that makes it easier).

What’s good for your country and what your government wants to do can at times be at odds. It’s okay not to simply assume the leadership knows best at all times, at least if you aren’t within the chain of command.

I’m not suggesting it is or it isn’t the case right now, just trying to clarify what I was talking about.

Blind “followership” is not what the United States is all about. Well, that’s my opinion anyway – for the few who care.

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vroom, when someone responds to your words as they appear here, that’s all we can do.
We have the words on the screen. We can’t tell what point you’re secretly pondering that we should all be able to divine merely by your will alone.

Now–as someone who (despite what you keep yelping) is trained fairly well as a critical reader, that’s what I do. So if we all miss your point–perhaps it’s not because we’re reading into your posts something you aren’t saying, or because we all just hate smug fishbellied Canadians, but rather the problem may very well be that you’re not expressing yourself.

After the third or fourth person expresses the same frustration with you…don’t you think it might be a plausible option?

Or are you just so perfect and we so inept that thats not an option?

BTW, vroom, FWIW–I never mentioned your name, I didn’t even know who OD was responding too. I only skimmed the thread. It just seemed like it came from someone who didn’t have what it took to actually take a stand.