[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
Personally id say no on the behind the neck. When you get heavy…Blah, no thanks lol. [/quote]
You’re really raining on my parade here dawg. 
Anyone else wanna chime in about behind the neck presses?[/quote]
AM I?! DID I MENTIOn THAT SANTA ISNT REAL EITHER?! BWAHAHA
I like BTN Presses, myself. No lower than ear level, and I stick to the 8-12 range. Too awkward of a lift to go really heavy on, so I use it mainly as an accessory move.
What’s everyone’s arm path when doing bent over laterals? My shoulders just don’t feel right if i go perpendicular to my body. I feel it a lot in my rear delt if my arms take a path from straight in front of my shoulders, ending down by my hips.
Bent over laterals are MEANT to target the rear delt tho.
lol. I know that. I meant I feel it more in my rear delt if i take the path that goes down towards my hips.
My shoulders feel odd if i try to do the raises with my arms remaining perpendicular to my body. It feels a lot more comfortable if i raise the weights at about a 50 degree angle between my side and my arm.
Do what feels good for you. I personally are bent over 90degrees with my upper body parallel w/ the floor, and i perform the rep with my thumbs in/palms facing me, ending with my arms parallel to the floor at the top.
[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:
lol. I know that. I meant I feel it more in my rear delt if i take the path that goes down towards my hips.
My shoulders feel odd if i try to do the raises with my arms remaining perpendicular to my body. It feels a lot more comfortable if i raise the weights at about a 50 degree angle between my side and my arm.[/quote]
It may be because you’re not keeping your scaps retracted when doing them perpendicular. Doing them at an angle like that sort of forces you to keep them pulled back.
So you do them with your arms perpendicular to your body at the top of each rep?
My rear delts aren’t that big by any means but it feels like the muscle limits the ROM at the top if I end the rep with my arms perpendicular to my body.
If I do each rep with the arms ending up almost behind me, I feel like I get a better ROM and feel it in my rear delts more.
I’m trying to think of how to describe my final position on each rep…
To get in the same position you have to bend over like you normally do.
Put your hands behind your back,
Move them about a foot and a half away from your body on each side.
That’s my final position.
It seems off compared to what other people do, but I really feel every rep in my rear delts when I do them this way.
[quote]JayPierce wrote:
It may be because you’re not keeping your scaps retracted when doing them perpendicular. Doing them at an angle like that sort of forces you to keep them pulled back.[/quote]
Hmmm. Just tried moving my arms like that while focusing on retracting my scaps. It definitely did make a difference. I’ll try doing them this way the next time. That may have been my problem. Thanks JayPierce.
Just tried how you described it, and it feels like it limits my ROm by about half, and i also feel it in my lateral head, not so much my rear.
How i do them: stand up, bend over so that your upper body is perpendicular with your legs. Keep your palms facing you, and raise it so that at the end of the movement, your hands are essentially parallel with the floor and perpendicular to your legs
^what about doing bent laterals while seated on the edge of a bench?
[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
^what about doing bent laterals while seated on the edge of a bench? [/quote]
Lol yea you could do that. The thing is, when you get to a size point, i dont really think you could perform this particular movement on a flat bench, there’d be a whole lot of air constriction. If i REALLY wanted to hit my rear delt while on a bench, id just get on an incline bench. Its lowest setting is something like a 45 degree angle. Lay with your chest on the bench, and do some Reverse flys
oh right…I didn’t think of it that way!
I’m not ‘large,’ but the girls do kinda get in the way, haha…but sometimes bent over like that fatigues the lower back…is this an indicator that I need more lower back work or do others have the same issue?
[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
oh right…I didn’t think of it that way!
I’m not ‘large,’ but the girls do kinda get in the way, haha…but sometimes bent over like that fatigues the lower back…is this an indicator that I need more lower back work or do others have the same issue?
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Could be an indicator, or it could just be your routine. I mean if you have something like legs(hamstrings) or some lower back movement within a couple days before performing bent over rear delts, it could just be some hamstring tightness/ lower back soreness you feel, in which case a good stretching/rolling out session might be in order beforehand.
Recently I figured out a little trick for lateral raises that seems to work ok for me when it comes to the execution of the movement. I hold the dumbbells as far back on the handle as possible, instead of the middle as I usually would do for any other movement. This gives more weight on the thumb side of my hand than on the pinky side, and causes a slight tilt in my arm. I feel that this makes it easier to keep my pinky slightly higher than my thumb, which gives a better isolation of the lateral head. Also, it seems benefecial as far as “leading with the elbows”, and keeping form correct as you fatigue throughout the set.
Any opinions on this technique?
[quote]cyberwar wrote:
Recently I figured out a little trick for lateral raises that seems to work ok for me when it comes to the execution of the movement. I hold the dumbbells as far back on the handle as possible, instead of the middle as I usually would do for any other movement. This gives more weight on the thumb side of my hand than on the pinky side, and causes a slight tilt in my arm. I feel that this makes it easier to keep my pinky slightly higher than my thumb, which gives a better isolation of the lateral head. Also, it seems benefecial as far as “leading with the elbows”, and keeping form correct as you fatigue throughout the set.
Any opinions on this technique?[/quote]
seems fine to me. Thats actually how i perform my Incline bench DB laterals. I find that it’s the best way NOT to incorporate my front head into the movement.
I like to have the chest support.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
Personally id say no on the behind the neck. When you get heavy…Blah, no thanks lol. [/quote]
You’re really raining on my parade here dawg.
Anyone else wanna chime in about behind the neck presses?[/quote]
I love them, but never go too heavy…8-12 reps is good, and I don’t lock out at the top which helps to use less weight.
Make sure your shoulders are flexible as well
How do you all feel about the reverse fly(pec dec)?
[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
How do you all feel about the reverse fly(pec dec)? [/quote]
I haven’t had a lot of luck getting a good mind-muscle with it.