HAHAHA rockky… your natural yet you have used mach-10 and how many 30 day cycles??? sorry dude your not natural by any means
Agreed. Here’s a little story:
One day about two months ago, I was in the locker room after my workout, and didn’t have my shirt on. It was an upper body workout, so I was lookin’ pretty pumped. I get some veins across my traps and upper chest sometimes, and if the light hits me just right it looks pretty sweet. Anyway, these two other guys come in (they’re both regulars there, and one even works there) and they’re like ‘whoa- how much deca is this guy on?’
At first I just thought they were being funny, and joked along with them. They definately don’t look that big at all, so I figured they were kidding. But as we talked, it became obvious that they both had used. I asked them strait out and they told me they go two weeks on, two weeks off- with Deca!
Palm colides with forhead
They said they were in the middle of their ‘off’ period, so that’s why they looked like shit. Actually, they looked like shit all the time, and had looked like shit for the past two years.
We talked a little more, but I didn’t even bother trying to ‘inform’ them. It wouldn’t have been worth it.
Fuckin’ retards,
Ryan
Wow. 2 on, 2 off with Deca is never going to give you a chance to recover. Tell them about T-mag so they can be enlightened - the world doesn’t need two more people that have no idea what they’re doing with steroids.
I don’t think the point of this post is to take away from Mule’s pics. We all know (read: actual aas users) that it takes a lot of dedication with or without gear. You guys “look” juiced to me. If you’re not, then make sure you post some pics when you finally decide to (and you will), because I really would like to see.
Concerning calling myself ‘natural’, yeah I guess it’s how exactly you draw the line and define.
Since 1998, I’ve done exactly 2 Mag-10 cycles… and 3 finaplix transdermal 4 week cycles… that’s 5 one month cycles in 6 years… If I had to classify myself one or the other, it wouldn’t be a juicer… it’d be natural.
once you have used aas, you can never be natural again.
Natural means NEVER have used steroids.
rockky, you’re livin a dream. As what P-DOG said: you’ve used; therefore you are no longer “natural”.
rockky,
Did you inhale?
Exactly what I thought. I mean, forget all the bad aspects of deca; it’s relatively unimportant considering these guys are never really off cycle like this, the half-life is so long; it’s just fucking stupid.
Like I said, it wouldn’t be worth it. I’ve since talked to them on other occasions, and others in the gym who also use, (but don’t look like it at all.) These two, however, are by far the dumbest of the bunch. The kicker is that when you talk to them about it, they never say steroids, or roids or gear; all they ever say is deca, like it’s the only steroid. WTF??? How dumb can you be?
The others are no bunch of brainiacs either, though. They say shit like “if you’re not gonna go 2 on 2 off, you gotta pyramid.” I’ve tried briefly to explain this one to them, (the senselessness of pyramiding and the benefits of frontloading,) but all I got was that confused/angry look; like you get from a dog that’s barking at you, but all you do is laugh at him because he’s inside his owners car… Er, something like that.
But I understand the problem here: these guys are the ones who fuck themselves up and then ruin it for intelligent users like yourselves. But no matter what I say, I know they will never come around. Hell, of all the people I’ve tried to get to read t-mag for any reason, only two have even taken a look. Two!! I know I tell someone else at least once or twice a week. If I try to talk some sense into them, it’ll just make them dislike me, and I don’t need that. No one would benefit.
It’s a shame, really.
rockky, you’re not a juicer? Where do you draw the line? You’ve introduced your body to exogenous hormones… sorry, but you’re a juicer.
Also, I shouldn’t have mocked retarded people in my first post; I usually don’t say that, and I don’t know why I wrote it, but I’m sorry if anybody read that and thought it was ignorant.
Peace,
Ryan
anyone ever have this problem?
It doesn’t matter if you’re at the gym or hanging out with your friends, but somehow you get caught up in conversation with guys that “work-out” and they start talkin about creatine and all that stuff, but they still look like shit. The focus of the conversation comes to you, and they start asking what you’re on. You tell them “food” and they laugh. These people have no idea what a proper diet consists of, and they go in the gym 3 or 4 times a week pushing around the same weight expecting to get bigger. They accuse you of juicing, thinking that it’s impossible to make natural gains like that. It makes me sick sometimes.
This happeneds to me before I crossed over into the darkside. Surely some of you have been in this same situation.
i rekon i could pick out over 90% of users if i saw them in a gym. i have often approached guy asking them where they source their gear, and they have been shocked that i knew. these arent big guys but in reasonable shape. the quality of muscle and something about their skin gives it away. i have been to so many natural and nonnatural shows (mainly backstage, so you can see thewm very close up) and hung out with both sorts you can just pick it up after a while. cant really explain it. and its not vasculaity or hardness, cause a natural guys can get those, its odd vascularity that give it away tho, eg abdominal veins at BF% that aint that low.
All right bros, here’s one for you.
New guy at the gym today, both my wife and I thought he was juicing, I ask him, he says no. He’s 6’1" 250lbs at 13-15%bf. Calves are just sick huge, big all around, roider traps, I can’t imagine he’s not juiced, but… could he be natural?
My point of reference is always Arnold. 6’2" 250 at his heaviest, competed at 235. I just can’t imagine someone getting bigger than Arnold without a little help.
What do you think? What’s the biggest you’ve ever seen anyone get that you were absolutely certain was natural?
Warhorse: See im not the only one who believes there is such a thing as ‘roider traps’…heh Its the look bro… I forgot who it was but they gave me shit for talking about them, said there wasnt such a thing. I was reading something about a month ago that backed that same statement up. Something about there are more androgen receptors in the traps/pecs/delts, etc.
Now onto the topic at hand… : ) Personally, i think he is a lying SOB…heh 6’1 250 % that low of a BF is fucking huge man. I mean its possible, but not likely. Most of the big dudes i see that are natural are carrying a nice layer of fat on them. Or when they do diet down they shrink conciderably. Just my 2ccs though…
I’d say Mule is pretty big and never juiced.
I get asked a lot if I do. I never have, but at 6-5, 286 and bench over 400 I understand why people might think I do. I carry my fat strictly on my back and lower abs so my arms, shoulders, and legs are cut and vascular all the time, so in a t-shirt and shorts I for sure give the appearance of someone who uses. I have been on Myostat pretty much since it came out, I am convinced it works. I was 228 at my contest I competed in last May, so I have gained 58 pounds in 10 months and that has also raised suspicions. But I am natural. I’m afraid I’d hit 400 pounds if I ever decided to use steroids.
50+ pounds in ten months for an advanced trainer… wow.