There are no absolutes in life. We all go by probability. I thought someone with an alleged background such as your’s would understand this and not clutch at straws writing something this silly as a retort. And how are you able to call someone else a “dumbass” when you have such an irrational fear of this happening given the odds?
You copied and pasted a quote in which the author himself admits to being purely speculative to prove a point? Really? And you quoted this to disprove my post about tren cough occurring because of the drug even though it conflicts with your assertion that [quote=“heisenberg22, post:36, topic:220202”]
Tren cough is just the name given to this side effect of hitting the vein.
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I really don’t know how to dumb this down any further. I know what tren cough feels like because I get it every time I use tren. So does anyone who is susceptible to this. I do not get it when I am not using tren. You are essentially saying that every time I use tren, I must be hitting a vein whereas I don’t when using other drugs.
Like I said, basic logic simply eludes you.
I never disputed this. The content of my post pertaining to this subject consisted of 2 lines. It would take a really feeble mind to not be able to comprehend it.
The fact that you found this to be a complex term(which I don’t think anyone with basic knowledge on this subject would) and felt I would be stumped by your use of it says a lot more about you, doesn’t it… Einstein?
Wow you really took a lot of time to formulate that comeback. You must have a lot going for you. Im not going to waste any more of my time trying to explain this to you. My question is what would you have wanted me to call the harsh cough one gets from injecting test into a vein. Google “tren cough from test” or any other steroid. Many people still call it tren cough, its like when people call off brand acetaminophen, tylenol. It just easier, I’m not the only one, and it doesn’t make me stupid or wrong.
You tried to call me out on a technicality that you are not even familiar with obviously. And I never said micro-oil embolus is a complex term, but I can promise you more people would have understood what i meant by calling it tren cough than that. You try to act like you’re smart and know more by calling me basic when I never said shit to you. Do you feel better about yourself doing that? Then have a long retort that never disproved anything I said. Get a life dude, you’re just sad.
The point of the quote was that some people call it tren cough while others don’t, one isn’t right over the other, its not a medical term. Yes tren has a distinctive taste I’m sure when coughing up but its because of the oil that makes you cough, not the tren itself. And all other steroids are oil based thus will do the same damn thing if you hit a vein.
What the fuck is going on in here? Are you kidding me? I’m so damn grateful I don’t have the time to waste on stupid dumbshit internet fights anymore. There really is a difference between acting like a grown up and being a grown up.
Again, you are displaying an astounding inability to comprehend basic logic. How much further do you want me to dumb this down?
John inject tren. John have cough. Every time.
John inject other shit. John no have cough.
John only hit vein when inject tren? Every time? That’s unpossible!
You can obviously say it would feel the same as tren cough, thus making a fair comparison while still maintaining a distinction between the actual cause.
I do not think you are familiar with the term “technicality”.
People don’t normally associate tren cough with hitting a vein.
I told you to question your own understanding and knowledge on the subject of steroid use since all your posts so far have displayed it to be lacking. This could potentially save you a lot of wasted time, effort and grief.
Are you confused about the length of my previous post because it included quotes from your’s. Yes, it LOOKED long. I’ve not been the one typing out lengthy novels in this thread. Again, your attempts at insults are having the opposite effect of showing more about yourself than you think.
Let’s pretend that the quote represents some sort of authority on this subject. Let’s say I’m open to the idea of the solvent being the main factor. Which part of it states or at least implies that the cause is hitting a vein?
Good call. Hey I started a thread today with some lab results posted. I promise I did some research before hand, and it concerns dbol as well. Well sort of. If any body is tired of this Doogie Howser MD crap, I would welcome your comments, criticisms, and general knowledge of experience in my thread. I promise I wont feel like I have to prove that I am man enough for a cycle to you guys.
Adex question: start with .25mg, maybe even half that since you’re only running dbol (pill cutters work, or if its liquid adex this is easy enough). You should take it about a week through PCT, tapering dose down. Start PCT directly after last day of cycle.
E2 crash: for one thing, this is why bloodwork is important. Best to find out for sure if you’ve crashed your E2. Since symptoms resulting from high E2 are similar to low E2 in many cases, you don’t want to take the wrong action and find out later you’ve been making the problem worse. And unfortunately, this is a live and learn process. There’s no way to know in advance how you’ll respond to an AI. Just have to jump in and figure it out as you go.
You’re wrong about the tren cough man, flat out wrong. For one thing, I get it with tren E, not just tren A (I’ve never run A). I got it about once in ever 3-4 injections. I’ve never, EVER had the same experience with test, and I’ve pinned test literally hundreds of times. I can’t buy the notion that I’m just constantly hitting a vein with tren and never do with test. That makes zero sense. The science is out on why tren causes this, but I promise you it’s something other than hitting a vein. You can believe what you want though, no skin off my back.
Wow man, again I’m not going to go through your response line by line like you are doing to mine, length ignored you are still taking way to much time to try to prove yourself. I used the term tren cough because many on here use that terminology, I’m pretty sure everyone would have known what I’m talking about. Like i said just google “tren cough with test”. Im not the first person to use the term tren cough with something other than tren, thats why I used it. I guess we are all wrong though, so trust me I will make sure to spell it out next time and state micro-oil embolism. Yes tren is unique and can cause tren cough even without hitting the vein but when you do hit a vein with test its causes similar symptoms to the tren couch, thus people use it interchangeably.
I don’t need to constantly put you down to feel better about myself and win some internet message board battle to feel like a big guy. Im just trying to get decent advice on here and I don’t think my lack of research is the problem. If anything the more research I do the more conflicting answers I get. Im not uninformed on the subject, Im asking question because I get so much conflicting shit. Its NOT the same thing as being uninformed. I’ve agreed with everything you guys have said so I don’t know how you guys continually tell me I don’t know shit.
As for the length of my damn posts, this is my fucking thread. Im not going to go to someone else’s thread just to fucking tear them down for my own pleasure and try to nit pick insignificant shit like you. Get a fucking life.
Thanks, flip I’ll start out with .25mg and see how it goes.
As for tren cough its not about me believing what I want, I just used the term tren couch because others have used that term with other steroids like test. I thought people would understand what I meant instead of saying micro-oil embolism like I explained above. I realize that tren cough is unique to tren and happens without hitting a vein but when people inject test into a vein they have similar symptoms and thus call it tren cough because its an established term. Again I’m very sorry for saying tren cough now lol, didn’t know it would cause such a fuss.
I do appreciate all your post though because you are literally the only person giving pertinent advice with insulting me. All these boards are the same with childish pricks who have the need to feel superior by tearing others down. Thanks for not being a douche.
yea i get what you’re saying here. my only point is that ACTUAL tren cough happens through a different mechanism than what you’re talking about (hitting a vein), and is something of a different experience. And it’s much more common. I personally hadn’t heard people refer to tren cough outside of actual tren, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
I have been reading post thinking about doing a cycle of some kind and just read this one LOL! some funny stuff! I don’t know shit about running a cycle but I have pined Test for 4 yrs TRT and have had blood in my syringe plenty of times and I bleed 50% of the time, as far as I understand getting blood in the syringe means I hit a blood vessel if this is the same thing ya’ll are talking about when you say hit a vain… I have never had a cough of any kind in apx 600 injections so I am confused. I have never taken Dbal but if it causes a rise in T and FT then you need an AI or you will get high E. As for your E if you get high E or low E you will feel like shit and not have a libido. Just start out with a low dose and when you are horny as hell keep that same does if you pass that feeling then cut back on the AI and keep playing with it to find the good spot or just get labs.
Err… it’s really not hard nor time consuming to quote different parts of someone’s posts, you know? You simply highlight the intended text and a box will appear right above it. Just so you know.
Prove myself? You have quite a vivid imagination.
As said above, quoting is not time consuming. I gave you the courtesy of responses addressing your exact statements and returning insults accordingly. And as always, your posts fall apart under scrutiny. Perhaps that’s why you have not responded in kind.
You know, I could just accept that you understood what you were talking about and let it go but you wrote:
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Why? Why not just say, “Hitting a vein feels like tren cough”, or just describe the prominent symptoms for the benefit of people who have never used the drug before?
You based this on a couple of posts on forums? I’ve been training with steroid users since 20 years ago and I’ve never heard of anyone using this interchangeably. So far no one in this forum seems to have either.
Huh? You are the one making posts with insults and I am replying in kind. Now you are playing the victim because you perceive yourself to be losing? Wow.
Do you know why? Because noobs that think they are not uninformed just like you are posting this stuff and arguing with vets instead of shutting the fuck up until they have more experience and knowledge.
I did not take issue with the length of your posts. How about quoting my exact words?
Again, my 1st post to you was to tell you that you do not know as much as you think you do. If you were not happy with the delivery, you could have simply ignored it. The rest were responses to what you wrote, including the insults that you have conveniently forgotten. Please don’t play the victim here.
Where can I do my own research as I was thinking of dbol myself but after reading this I ain’t, I have no idea what Al is or put so could you point me in a direction where I can have a read up please bud
