Great advice…
For your size, I would say that’s pretty good strength. I’m not much over that on bench, and I weigh a good bit more.
Yeh, unfortunately due to subacromial bursitis and structural abnormalities present within my shoulder joint since birth, benching isn’t an option at the moment and may not be for a whiiiilllleee.
The only best exercises I can do are (and I do them in this order)
- ring dips (on gymnastic rings)
- dips on parallel bars
- machine dips (parallel bar dips are too easy, can do like 30+ at a time, thus the machine allows me to add weight, so I’ll add like 130 (forgot dip machine itself doesn’t weigh anything) kg and do sets of 6-8, then back off the weight to 110kg and do 10-15 then 90-100kg, progressively lower until even 60kg is troubling to do 10 reps with. Works well for chest/anterior delta without significant shoulder irritation for me (my sheer level of hypermobility makes dips rather easy, full ROM doesnt irritate me at all like it does for many)
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No, never in my life… I simply arbitrarily pull numbers, names of exercises and rep ranges out of my urethra and type them in
Did gymnastics as a child though
Also that guy is like 98% neck… the neckster… neckity neck
My neck looks almost as bad as this guys though… so I probably shouldn’t be talking (I’ve been informed having a huge neck is highly unattractive towards members of the opposite sex)
Thanks for all the input guys it’s really appreciated, and I’m sure for most of you it’s a topic that’s been talked to death! So much respect
Allow me to clarify a little further. I’ve been training about 5 years but for idiotic reasons I was in a calorie deficit for about 3 and a half, so I have decent experience lifting just not the size I should have by now. My starting weight was 54kg and my body fat is approx 10-12 percent.
About 4 years ago I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism (underactive) and have been on T4 since with my levels checked regularly, however I display many symptoms of an over active metabolism. Is it possible that I have unfavorable nutrient partitioning occuring due to my condition? Again I eat 8 solid meals daily (no shakes) which seems excessive just to sustain 65kg.
My food intake is solid and consistent as is my training, I guess I’m just a little worried I’ve missed the boat by not training when I was younger, so I’m looking at anabolics as a way to make up lost ground.
Only way to find out if thyroid medication is inducing a hyperthyroid stage… that is… get bloods
If you do have hyperthyroidism (possible, but not particularly likely as you’d probably be quite a bit thinner) then simply lowering dosage would do wonders in terms of gainzzz. What’s you’re RHR? Increased thyroid typically induced an innapropriate resting heart rate, say over 100bpm for the avg individual and over 90bpm for the athlete (genetic variability, some genetically have high resting heart rates without any underlying pathology)
I get checked every 3 months and doctors keep telling me I’m cool
Well, perhaps give me a rundown and I can tell you if I think (though don’t take my opinion over that of a medical professional) everything is actually “cool”
How’s sleep cycle? How well do you respond to heat (as in, can you handle hot summer days?)
Do you sweat profusely for seemingly no reason? How’s appetite?
What’s resting heart rate? Do you experience heart palpitations or palpable/evident arrhythmia on a regular basis (an occasional PVC/PAC doesn’t count)
If you are going down the competitive road, then IMO it’s never too early to start gear. I will get slapped for this, but wanting to compete is IMO worth the risks that gear might bring.
If you are just wanting to self improve in the gym, then stick to what you can do naturally.
My opinion anyways.
I know it’s unpopular opinion on this forum, but I really believe that asking the question first: do you want to compete regularly will help you make a better decision on gear usage.
I take tren. The risk is huge, but competing makes that risk worth it. I don’t regret it and I am prepared for what might happen.
But if I didn’t have any competitive ambitions, gear usage would be off the table.
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It sounds to me like you are trying to cut too fast, and possibly bulking too fast as well if you are gaining a ton of fat. Steroids would improve your results, but if your diet is fucked up then your results will still be suboptimal. Eating “clean” means next to nothing, you need an appropriate caloric intake for whatever you are trying to achieve, combined with sufficient protein and micronutrients.
If you lose all the muscle you gained every time you cut, it’s because you cut too fast. Or you didn’t actually gain any muscle in the first place, but if your lifts go up significantly then that probably isn’t the case.
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what do you compete in @weightliftingwithoutlimits?
Powerlifting. With BPU.
@unreal24278 not to hijack this thread, but how would these levels such as testosterone and others be effected by a messed up sleeping schedule? For example going to bed at 5am and waking up at 1pm. Not necessarily less sleep, but shifted?
What about dumbbell pullovers? Any kind of flies with machine or cable? That’s tough man!
After your DL vs Rack pull post, I went in and did rack pulls for the first time ever. Loved it, so thank you for the motivation to finally add that.
Just to bring up straps again… I did 315x8 rack pulls without straps but had to switch my grip at 5 reps. Grabbed my straps and did 405 x 9/8/8 and probably could have pushed a bit more. The power of straps are real, again, I only do it when I decide to go heavy, and only on certain exercises.
Just curious, what sort of progress have you made since you got on gear?
There’s always an adjustment when you change a sleep schedule. Wouldn’t be unusual for that to negatively impact a lot of things, including hormones. Now for how long and to what degree is another question entirely and one without a concrete answer.
Within three months went from 180kg squat to 260. Aiming for 300 by end of December. Body weight around 85. Competing in 82 class.
Tren works
What did you use to make such astounding progress? I thought you started on test and only added the Tren recently? And how much tren is required to induce such insane strength gains? Surely you aren’t putting 80kg on you’re squat with like 100mg tren weekly
Did you use tren before trying anything else? That’s a pretty ballsy move if so. Squatting 300kg is insane for an 82kg dude, squatting 260 itself is damn impressive… tren or no tren
180 is really good for a natty… I think (I’m not well versed on strength standards). How long had you been training before hitting such a lift
More questions
- How’s cardiovascular endurance effected (both in relation to cardio and sexual performance), do you get winded faster and/or sweat profusely (I find masteron kills cardio, causes muscles too cramp up… this only applies to running though, not biking)
- When is you’re first competition, do you wish too progress to like… strongest in the world levels of strength?
- Are you cycling tren on/off or using year round (if year round, you should know eventually the body will reacclimatise too the chemically induced changes and homeostasis will be reattained, in which case gains will taper off dramatically. Do you notice much in the way of muscular mass (increases in) or is it more of a recomp effect
- Do you notice bouts of hypoglycaemia/ cravings for carbohydrate rich roods?
- Do you feel angry in general?
- Vascularity? Hardness? How would you primarily describe the cosmetic effect of the drug?
I don’t disclose my dosages. But yes, I abuse tren. Hypersexuality, and lack of sleep are my two main problems with side effects. Some night sweating and heating up, but apart from that, I tolerate tren very well. If someone gets in my way, a fury builds up inside me.
I’m also perma blasting tren right up until Feb when my meet is.
Like I said, I won’t disclose because there are alot of 15 year olds here who would look at it and think, fuck, gotta get me some of that.
But honestly, tren is shit for bulking. Great recomp effect which is what I want for my weight class. Skin getting thinner and I’m getting tighter. Everything goes through me. But sometimes I’m flat as a pancake and that tends to effect my squat and bench leverages.
TREN is not a bulker.
I’m taking a huge risk, but for me it’s worth it. Have probably 2/3 comps in total in 2020.
My compounds are test, tren and adding in superdrol this week to see what it’s like. If I like it, will add it back in in jan
Going hypo is a real issue with tren. A real fucking issue. The effect is ten fold on tren. The only thing that kicks me out of it is a chocolate bar or two.
For me, I don’t mind getting to 60 all fucked up, if I knew I did everything in my power to get where I wanted to be. If I make it to 60
I await the flames.
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