because your programming sucked. Everyone else here agrees on that. Why can’t you see that when there’s an absolute consensus amongst the strangers you’re addressing, that there might be something to that?
well, since you didn’t do it for 2 years, we’ll never know for sure. You told us you gained weight for 2 months, and then stopped. The rate you were gaining was fine, but you needed to do it for at least a year to get solid results. You weren’t patient enough.
You also have to keep in mind that the website you just linked is SELLING SOMETHING. That should be a red flag to you. None of us in this thread are making money off our advice. People who make money off training programs and advice are often selling you lies. Welcome to the fitness industry. Where people tell you that you should be getting much better results than you are, so that you’ll pay them for their secrets.
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Spend time with people that smoke enough and someone might find his circular reasoning and victimhood complex deep and compelling
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He’d probably take a hit, not inhale, then make a thread asking why weed doesn’t get him high like it does everyone else.
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But if you did a different routine…
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I had a routine. Its called bwf rr
Sounds a lot like the one time I tired it in Amsterdam.
Except my solution wasn’t a thread, it was smoke a lot more and add a load of edibles just in case.
I didn’t enjoy myself,.
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Hilarious that he thinks this is the point.
@flipcollar guys on bwf subreddit say the beginner routine is a good beginner routine if you wanna gain muscle and strength.
you probably think on the study which shows that on low-responders, strength and size starts to increase after 4 and more months. because first the body goes through some inflammations. that might be the reason for no gains. those study though also say that low-respnders should go high volume. yup. that guy sells stuff. i know. so it probably isn’t just 2 years.
@Pinkylifting huh?
@napelazam Can you do 3x8 horizontal rows?
Everything is a beginner routine when you’re a beginner.
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wonderful. you’re posting on TNation now though. Presumably to get different advice from what people say on reddit. If you want the advice of reddit posters, go back to reddit. I have no interest in echoing what you read on reddit. If you want to know the opinions of Tnation posters, then stop using reddit as evidence against us. It’s useless and annoying.
I’m not thinking about any studies. I’m going by the hundreds of people I have personally been associated with who have made radical changes to their physiques. I know that very few people make substantial progress in the first 2 months of any program, whether they are beginners or not.
You sound completely committed to disagreeing with the posters here, and telling us we’re all wrong. And that’s fine. But many of us have made ENORMOUS changes to our own physiques using the methods we talk about here. Myself included.
I made this before/after picture about 3 years ago, I’ve continued to make significant improvements since then as well.
The thing is, interestingly, the program as written and intended isn’t actually all garbage. If followed properly, consistently and with the correct intensity its something that would almost certainly result in very reasonable upper body gains. Its probably not optimal, as is the consensus here, but would definitely work with even half arsed effort.
The problem is, I am also absolutely certain this guy did not follow it properly, or with the correct intensity. And we know he did not follow it consistently.
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@Pinkylifting I think it was 3x4, every set to failure bcs. i don’t know where my failure is. lifting is so difficult <.<
(yes i trained mostly to failure, which might be a reason for no gains)
@flipcollar the subreddits advice was improve your form and do exactly as the routine tells you to do.
My itention is never to insult or something else. I never said what you write is wrong.
If you would have a progress pic after 6 months, it would look different than me after 6 months. Probably because I didn’t follow it correctly… I did… start with an exercise you can do 5 reps and go to 8, and then chose the harder exercise of this muscle group and so on. That’s all to it really.
Then you didn’t have a program, actually, because you were ignoring the rules of the program.
You didnt do this
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dude, you’ve argued with every single bit of advice anyone has given on here. give me a break.
your goal is to build muscle. we gave solid advice on how to do that. you can take it or leave it. whining and complaining and arguing is not going to build you any muscle, I can promise you that.
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no i mean the 1rm was 3x4. the normal training had highre reps
If you cant do 3x8, then, according to the program, you had no business doing chinup negatives.
Whether I agree with that or not is moot, you weren’t on program.
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They said I can do negative chin-ups. Because you can easily do some of them if you can only do 1 or 2 hori. rows.
