Bush's War On Porn!

[quote]Todd S. wrote:
I have to say the internet porn thing does have me a bit concerned. I’m hoping to have children soon and I know it is extremely easy to get porn, You don’t even have to try. I realize as a parent it will be my job to monitor what the kids are doing. As an example we have a local news paper online. www.pennlive.com I think. I keyed in www.penlive.com one day and bam! it was a full blown porn site.

I think I would support making changes so that it took a more intentional action in order to find it. I do not think it should be illegal though. [/quote]

On a serious note, I would think more resources are available now than ever before as far as preventing kids from seeing it. Porn wasn’t “inaccessible” 20 years ago either. Anyone with cable tv could get it. They now have parental blocks on most internet providers and ways to block certain channels on your cable provider. You can access your kid’s computer history and see what sites they have been on.

Granted, I don’t have any kids, but many of the issues I hear about are only issues because parents aren’t doing their job. That whole problem with the video game GTA-San Andreas should have been a non-issue. That is what the ratings on the games are for. If you buy your kid a video game marked “MATURE”, you lose any right to bitch about your kid watching a computer generated sex scene that you have to be fairly computer literate to access in the first place.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I have probably been to NJ close to 50 times. I have traveled the country extensively. NJ is the absolute last place I would live in this country.

Even though there are distinct differnces between Northern NJ, Southern NJ and the Shore they are all loaded with the same miserable people.
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As much as I hate saying this – because I have so many friends in NJ – I agree. I loved staying in Princeton for a while, and I loved being so close to Manhattan (my second favorite place in the world). For a while I even liked it there. But after a while I honestly found the problem with NJ is that most people are so incredibly miserable and, most of all, so bent on making YOUR life equally miserable it just starts becoming unbearable after a while. Much like The Netherlands, actually. Must be the Dutch influence…

Of course, I’m spoiled AND biased, since I was born in CA and lived in CA most of my life. But somehow everyone that ever leaves California comes back faster than you can ask them why they left. And for a good reason… Just read Shug’s blog on La Jolla, CA, and you’ll get it.

[quote]redfreddy wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
I don’t by any means support porn; it is destructive and unhealthy.

How so?[/quote]

That was discussed on another thread. But in a nutshell, it makes “most” guys confuse reality with fantacy. So people are using porn as the standard of what is cool and good sexually, etc.

It also gets destructive in that many guys want to do the porn thing instead of a healthy relationship with an actual real woman.
There have been guys on this forum who has stated they wack to porn when they have girlfriends and wives that they have, or can have, sex with. That, my friend, is just wrong and why porn sucks! (and not in a good way).

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Granted, I don’t have any kids, but many of the issues I hear about are only issues because parents aren’t doing their job. [/quote]

Agreed.

I find it incredibly ironic that the same conservatives that are always blaming everybody else for expecting government help in all other departments, are the people that then expect the government to compensate for their inability to properly educate their kids.

I encourage anyone that likes History to read up on mid-20th Century Portuguese History, in particular the 1932-1974 period. For most of that period Portugal was ruled by a prime minister (Antonio de Oliveira Salazar) whose ideals were amazingly close to the ones that Bush seems to have. Read it up, besides the distaste for pr0n (the subject of this thread…) the similarities are amazing, from personal beliefs to foreign policy…

(The only difference is that Salazar, with all his problems, was actually a brilliant economist, which is the reason I know him… :-))

This is the Executive Summary:

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761572975/Salazar.html

[quote]hspder wrote:
I find it incredibly ironic that the same conservatives that are always blaming everybody else for expecting government help in all other departments, are the people that then expect the government to compensate for their inability to properly educate their kids.
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What conservatives are you refering to? Most want less Gov in all aspects. It is liberals that want Gov to help them do it all, just as long as they are in control. So I think you have this backwards.

Would this be like current gun control advocates being the same as Adolf Hitler, who passed a similar gun control law in Germany in 1938 designed to reduce crime?

Or would that be like Al Gore’s book “Earth in the balance” having similar comments as the Unabomber’s manifesto?

Don’t you love history!

[quote]Lorisco wrote:
What conservatives are you refering to? Most want less Gov in all aspects. It is liberals that want Gov to help them do it all, just as long as they are in control. So I think you have this backwards.
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Have you been paying attention to our government over the last 5 years? What party is pushing for increased government power, especially in terms of our current system of law? The only thing they aren’t doing is worrying about government policies that relate to the poor in this country.

[quote]hspder wrote:

I find it incredibly ironic that the same conservatives that are always blaming everybody else for expecting government help in all other departments, are the people that then expect the government to compensate for their inability to properly educate their kids.

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Our political system is full of these contradictions.

If you are pro-abortion you are generally anti-capital punishment. If you can kill a fetus, why is executing a murderer wrong?

The same goes for the anti-abortion people that are pro-capital punishment.
If you claim to be pro-life, why should someone die just because he has a shitty lawyer. (The Church is at least consistent that it is pro-life and anti-capital punishment.)

It goes on and on. Many people appear to have quit thinking and just go along with political party leadership.

They must figure that if they agree on most things, they might as well agree on everything else too, even if the positions are inconsistent.

[quote]skrying wrote:
I own over 20GB of porn, I guess now that makes me a bad person.[/quote]

Peh. Noob.

External hard drive - 60GB

Full.

[quote]BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
Vegita wrote:

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oh i hate that shit. and also where you click a wrong link to some beastiality shit, and no matter how many times you fuckin delete that shit its always some where on your hdd. then one of your friends comes over and somehow finds that shit in like 2mins and then they tease you for years about how you had some woman jerking off a cow on your computer.
man i hate the shit.[/quote]

that is some funny shit

[quote]Professor X wrote:

On a serious note, I would think more resources are available now than ever before as far as preventing kids from seeing it. Porn wasn’t “inaccessible” 20 years ago either. Anyone with cable tv could get it. They now have parental blocks on most internet providers and ways to block certain channels on your cable provider. You can access your kid’s computer history and see what sites they have been on.

Granted, I don’t have any kids, but many of the issues I hear about are only issues because parents aren’t doing their job. That whole problem with the video game GTA-San Andreas should have been a non-issue. That is what the ratings on the games are for. If you buy your kid a video game marked “MATURE”, you lose any right to bitch about your kid watching a computer generated sex scene that you have to be fairly computer literate to access in the first place.[/quote]

Since I don’t have kids yet the blockers might actually do the job. In that case great. I have no problem spending some time to keep things clean. I wouldn’t be one complaining about video games I bought for them.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
What conservatives are you refering to? Most want less Gov in all aspects. It is liberals that want Gov to help them do it all, just as long as they are in control. So I think you have this backwards.

Have you been paying attention to our government over the last 5 years? What party is pushing for increased government power, especially in terms of our current system of law? The only thing they aren’t doing is worrying about government policies that relate to the poor in this country. [/quote]

America is a gong show of enormous proportions - but thats what makes it great. Take any issue and you will find ridiculous zealots, and contradictions across the board. As an outsider, it is hard to appreciate exactly what Bush is doing but I cant say I like anything he stands for. I like porn, I like steroids and supplements. I like free trade and I like personal choices and freedoms. At least in the States, there is some sort of opposition and argument.

On the other hand, I live in Canada and my country is such a mess that I cant even order Grow! from Biotest. Canadians are so complacent about our social control and govt corruption - it is really sickening. It makes me think we need a violent revolution in Canada - and I am dead serious.

On a side note, I am a parent, and it is MY responsiblity to take care of my child. There are millions of things that can harm my kid, and its up to me to guide and protect - not some damn govt program or govt official.

[quote]sublime wrote:

On the other hand, I live in Canada and my country is such a mess that I cant even order Grow! from Biotest. [/quote]

Why not? I just ordered some stuff a month ago and received without too much trouble (except for motherfucking customs overcharging the hell out of me).

A little off topic but what bothers me is that a woman you think is nice, attractive, and so forth may be some slut with 4 guys on her on some site. I saw a site where quite a lot of normal mildly attractive women, women I’d be drawn to, had a cock in each hole and more guys in line. Imagine seeing someone, you think she’s great, then find out she does stuff like that! These were not porn stars, mostly college girls who needed money; so they do a gang bang for pay. Imagine taking her home to meet the folks!

Headhunter, I agree with you in a way, but at the same time, the past is the past. If she’s wild about you, is pleased by you, and pleases you, and doesn’t ever do anything like that again…

What was the harm?

[quote]CaptainLogic wrote:

Why not? I just ordered some stuff a month ago and received without too much trouble (except for motherfucking customs overcharging the hell out of me).[/quote]

Dont know - but I am in Alberta and anything that comes from Biotest gets seized by Customs.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
What conservatives are you refering to? Most want less Gov in all aspects. It is liberals that want Gov to help them do it all, just as long as they are in control. So I think you have this backwards.

Have you been paying attention to our government over the last 5 years? What party is pushing for increased government power, especially in terms of our current system of law? The only thing they aren’t doing is worrying about government policies that relate to the poor in this country. [/quote]

Dude, that’s a little biased don’t you think? I mean, what the hell is he supposed to do after 9-11?

So aside from the security aspects that followed 9-11, how has Gov increased in size? Required more taxes?

Poor? Riiight! Dem’s are great at saying that and then what did they do when they were in power? Did Clinton fix poverty? Do we still have the poor and homeless? Yes. Even more.

Dem’s love the poor and think everyone should own one, because that is what their Dependency-creating programs create; people who are conditioned to need the Gov because they have not been required nor taught how to take care of themselves.

So all you Dem’s can feel good about helping the poor; helping them stay right where they are at!