Bullworker a Good Tool for Bodybuilding

I think will do some direct arm work. I will have to weld up some heavy dumbbells though.
I only have 10kg dumbell , a 46kg db which I cannot curl , 61kg DB and a 90kg. How big exactly should my arms be then? at 215lb .I lost about 1/4 inch in the year I didn’t train. I mostly do chins. I am not really a bodybuilder as such, but I don’t mind a bit muscle now I am older than 30.

What do you mean troll threads, I could see this one maybe , which it was not originally.
This was a legitmate other posters made this a joke thread. I am not troller. check my other threads.
I normally ask good contributor questions alone i.e. the performance coaches the clever ones normally give a good reasoned response without the need to denigrate people off-hand.

Have ever actually used one?

I have got a shake weight too , I expect you would ge good at that.(that’s trolling).
I don’t btw.

[quote]decimation wrote:
sure I will try and get one soon. It may be a bit older , it felt a bit easier than the others.
People here do seem to have preoccupation with people proving what does it matter really or obsessed about how people look.

So you monkeys or snakes rather are calling me out on it. Hopefully it will be a case of monkey see monkey do.

If you want to know , I am overweight but how is that relevant , for stats which I really couln’t give a toss about ,

215lb 5 " 6 15 1/4 inch bicep 12.5 inch forearms (no direct arm work at all) 25 inch upper leg.
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Haven’t squatted in about year. Big upper back than most of you fools on here. Certainly wider shoulders easily but that at least 24 " but that is mostly genetic. Also I can give nearly double my bw airtime. Let’s see how many of you can do that.

Hopefully you don’t want a picture of me in my underwear.

Hopefully it will be a case of monkey see, monkey do. As they are very valuable for additonal work.

Plus lets see some of you close one fairly strictly. Lets see some of bend some metal rather than prine yourselves and shave chest and arse and pose in a mirror. Lets see you use 5 springs on Terry Chest Expander old style and I will bet at very least 80% cannot.[/quote]

Lol well it was definitely worth asking for. I shan’t hold my breath waiting for that video.

Look monkey ain’t too bad really . Snake because his nickname is Rattler.( a rattlesnake).
Plus the comments were aimed at the people who had posted comments in the thread and summarily dismissed the bullworker. With hindsight I wouldn’t have included that.

Believe I actually have the girls’ bullworkers to which my mother and sister also used. Funnily enough the bow
new one seems to resemble the girl’s bullworker but is obviously much harder. I bought a mini trampoline for 10 dollars at a thrift store ( a charity here in the uk). It’s excellent for warming and throwing medicine balls and throwing tires and sandbags and catching them. You can also jump on it with dumbells in each hand or jump on it with sandbags. I can’t recommend jumping with a heavy sandbag onto a high platform more for developing a bit leg strength. Take 110lb and jump onto a 20 -25 plus platform.How many of you can do it?

I guarantee the sandbag variations will add some size to your calves, if you do enough it. Another great exercise I used to do was explosive calf raise with around 300-450kg on old calf raise. (Until I examined the rackety old machine and shat myslef when I saw what a state disrepair it was in)
Use some knee bend even quarter squats (and explode for perhaps sets of 6 with weight.) That one is from Mel’s Siff Supertraing. It worked too my calves went form 15inch to nearly 16 inches. They have since lost roughly an inch (that’s one muscle group that does seem lose size when you don’t train.)

I can have squatted 180kg x 10 to parallel btw , not quarter squat either. I can clean pull 200kg and cheat row a 90kg dumbbell. I can also cheatrow.140kg barbell. I do use weights that Oprah would proud of.

The tools like chest expanders (where talking stuff Sandow would have used and bullworker are supplemental pieces of equipment . Perhaps for extra use at home.

Also if you put several bullworkers together over two chin up bars or something high.
You can mimick a double pull down to be used with each arm. You can get a great of resistance this way, which challenge even strongest people. Hatfield claims it is the best lat exercise there is. Of course he sells them for thousands of dollars.

Also since selling my barbell set, I want to save up for bumper plates and a good bar. I have started using isometric pulls from the floor with cut offs from turned trousers to develop off the floor. These can also be used to practice handcuffs and chain breaks for strongman shows.

Also for grip strength which I am told is sorely lacking amongst bodybuilders chinese meditation balls are excellent for grip strength and general hand health. Their use has allowed pick my homemade dumbbell with no knurling 90kg with my 61 kg in the other hand. I have closed my gripper ironmind 1.5 for 11 reps . I am sure I could close the no.2 now again. My hands were pretty badly beat up from trying to get more reps on the no.2.

I am trying to open up the minds here to some different forms additional training which are beneficial.
I also used boules ball/petanque to train my grip. They are great eventually I will move on to shot puts, as you can purchase lighter shots from 1kg 2.2.lb. to 7kg 15lb I think . The ball work works your hands but doesn’t injure them like grippers and then great carryover to the general grip.Trust me the shotputs will put on forearm size with the heavier ones without cutting into your recovery much. Plus you can use the lighter balls watching tv. As the dexterity as your hand improves your grip will get better/

I like gadgets a lot the ab wheel is nice one. For grip powerballs are nice , obvious graded grippers, putty , elastic bands doubled over. Those power twister would be excellent if you could build very hard one.
I was fortunate to pick up one for a pound . If you do it very slowly and deliberately you can isolate the chest well. The TRX is decent too if you can pick one up for nothing get it. It is very demanding on the core muscles if you add a weighted vest and use some pushup and evelate it steeply. If you could build one with a very difficult spring it would be great.

Pushup handles are useful sometimes. Ankle weights are great too to build a cheap weighted vest from an old coat without getting injured if you fall.

Try using a pulldown with a pillow for some glute ham raises.

Hopefully some of you will get something out of my trolling. You can take horses to water but can’t make them drink . So ditch the straps at least until your heaviest sets and use these meditation balls in your rest periods. Use sandbag to train the slamming muscles onto a rebounder and catch for some nice ballistic training. Obviously you have fairly strong to do so. Obviously some of you will be.

Perhaps should perform the Valsalva manoeuvre and lift some weights instead. Do you know what I will bloody make the video just to bloody show you. Give it a couple of days and will do it in my next upper body. I didn’t say I could close but I will get very close. With the cheek of this I probably will close it.

To be fair I haven’t used it. I have closed it the side several times and it always irritated my elbows.
I was surprised how much I had improved without using it. I am not sure why either. It may the chinese balls and the boules ball (650g balls, 2 rotated in each hand for a 4 minute song normally. So perhaps improved grip strength. I have been doing a lot of pushups (weighted very very strictly as I have an elbow issue. ). So I haven’t benchpressed or pressed in a while.

I didn’t mean for it to be used in isolation either . I can see possible applications for some sports like maybe wrestling or judo perhaps with a gi. But I think the newer bow version would be better because resembles the postions more. Plus the nature of that type of work is isometric holds and resisting someone pushing or pulling your arms away.

This was the way I expected the discussion to go and perhaps also its limitations being pointed out. Not simply shit end of , as most things are not normally that way. A tool is often what you make of it.

Look at the its application for massive resistance for pulldowns too. and horizontal rows as they are cheap to stack .


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That won’t do much for your grip. It’s like educating pork with some people. Even in the state of the Guvernator.

I wish I had a patience to read everything you said wrote as everything I did read was priceless. Do continue.

I will add some more tomorrow . Read it again, it repays careful rereading. As you can see most of the ideas are not mine. The trampoline and the sandbag is though.

I do have some more ideas for gadgets and applications in strength development.

Shall I bend a couple nails too, I haven’t done that in a while. Close the no.1.5 a couple of times.
I don’t have a no.2 right now. I want a Robert Baraban just below the no.2 to do lots of reps i.e. a working gripper. The chinese balls and iron balls are amazing so I just use the grips to test mainly perhaps once a week or every 10 days.

I might show the coat with the ankle weights , as I suspect most people have an old coat and don’t want to pay a lot for a vest.

Another idea I have is build a solid frame to attach springs at various heights that can be attached with carabiner clips . Very like a cable stack but the resistance from the springs. Most of them of them of course are for home use. You can even set up in a deadlift position for some dynamic isometrics. Use a plank of wood and bolt down the springs , I haven’t tried yet . I have used in the past two days cut offs from old jeans.

A used tyre for a punchbag is nice add some rope or chain possibly an eyebolt. Big tyres in your garden for flipping or jumping on. It’s probably best to build boxes as stacked tyres get quite dangerouns for the higher jumps.

Try and acquire mats for nothing from leisure centre for tumbling warmups and breakfall practice. If some of you very large individuals fall it will hurt. So it is good to practice falling. You can get tyres to fit an olympic too for practice at home and jam the other plates inside them. That way it will protecIt your floor a lot , when you eventually have to dump it.

I would recommend wearing safety boot when you lift particularly heavy dumbbells too.

Do you find this information useful for real or you are just knocking me?

[quote]roybot wrote:
Yes… I would’ve said no but that required an explanation. Too much effort on my end, not enough on yours. [/quote]

LOL!!
That’s a great response.

Yolo84 Typed: “No one uses a bull worker because they are a piece of crap. Simple.”

That’s funny, I didn’t know you were such an Authority on the supposed ‘crappy’ benefits of “Isometrics”,
and you are sadly mistaken.
Isometric Training can be very benefical, and I have used an Old Classic Bullworker in the past
and it WORKS mainly for Strength and Toning, but it’s REAL tangible results for me was increased
Strength, and for just a 10 min. session 3-4 times a week was fairly impressive, It will NOT
bulk you up of course, but if one has an injury, this can be a great alternative to maintain
strength as well.
The Russians Were WAY ahead of us on this years ago in the same manner the Their Grueling KetttleBell Workouts are Finally going mainstream, Bruce Lee also knew the power of Isometrics as well,
Who would have have told Bruce Lee that Isometrics was “crappy”?
Not I.

We are sometimes so slow in the USA to “catch up” on shit here it’s almost laughable…do some reading
Yolo.

This thread was semi-entertaining, then the OP got serious on us.
Useless crap.
Remember, fucktards, this is a BB forum post.

Zephead4747 - It iwas 215kg for a straight bar I am a fairly sure I can do more though.

Also I said clean pull - which an explosive from thighs in an athletic postions to above my belt i.e. the navel.

It’s not all that unusal for shorter people to be very strong from the thighs. We have better leverage there.
So yes I can give it airtime. : Lifted the 200kg from a powerrack and then clean pulled.

Clean pull is not a full clean and it was not a simple shrug either , a little bit like you see Rippetoe doing power pull here. A butchered of clean pull . But I am or was a year ago at least a lot stronger than Rippetoe in this posiotn and I won;t have lost much strength.

Plus I don’t think clean pull I weight like that is overly impressive either.

Also I am fair bit overweight , if I lose a few stone I am closer to 3xbw deadlift in reality.

So don’t just assume people strength are the same in different biomechanical positions. A taller man would like find such a position much harder. As you can see from Rippetoe’s video who has close to or slighly above 600lb deadlift. But he ain’t so strong in the top half of the movement and his hips struggle with explosive at the top probably due to the same factors that make a pull from the floor easier for him.

For shorter individuals with a bit of practice it is not all that unusual for shorter people to give deadlifts to the hips airtime by if you like jumping with the weight. and bring your hips through.
Also doing with 70% of your deadlift is not unusual with practice. So assume what you will . I should be able to get 140kg quite high for you though i.e. high clean-pull close to my chest.

Also I don’t think I am all that. But my back is not going to be that small is it if I can do quite heavy rows or do very heavy clean pulls. Also I have a 24 inch shoulder width at 5 " 6 so I am not going to look thin.

I do have a goal a 3xbw deadlift.

Why do you keep saying random things with no relevance? I don’t get it.

[quote]The Rattler wrote:
Why do you keep saying random things with no relevance? I don’t get it. [/quote]

Clearly, the guy has issues with both speak Engrish and the fact that everyone here is only tuning in for lol’s.

I have a shit keyboard. I also don’t prove read what I write. If you are Serena could you give me some good tips on jumping I was very impressed with your prodigious leap up the steps at Wimbledon. However , I would caution you against such dangerous leaps in the future , I know it was over-exuberance and elation due to win, but save the jumps for stacked training-mats in future. I will try not to preach to much to my better(s) on this occasion. I mean the Williams sister here (not most of the contributors to this thread).

I know it’s between matches so if you have time, please help. You are right haters are going hate when they envy your explosive power. I would also love shove a tennis ball down people’s throats.

Ah there you a unoverused tennis ball is a great grip tool , so keep a few from your matches.

Also if you are experienced any hand pain or wrist issues , the bao ding balls would be a good additon. I think your sister could use them a bit more really. You should convince her to eat a little more like you too.

I speak American gibberish too guys.(Serena this not directed you, you are a good public speaker).

The American Film Culture has done more to bastardise the English language than anything else. It has resulted in a form of pigeon English being spoken on your side of the pond. This is actually rather interesting linguistically and good fun to watch. However , even in semi-formal situations ,please stick to the Queen’s. It’s also rather bothersome when you tell English people to speak American . Your verb forms often do not match, although your sentences will nearly always make gramatical sense. Pigeon Languages develop their own grammar.
I love the way Americans (even politicans make up the endings to common nouns that they can’t remember).

Good luck at Flushing Meadows . Now Laura Robson has been dispatched with, you should be fine. Please try to keep your temper , as I have seen some questionable calls and overrules by the officials so far.

WHAT ARE YOU SAYING.

[quote]decimation wrote:
I can cheat row a 90kg dumbbell.
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? lol So ummm, for how many reps?

Are you trying to say that Americans on this site have difficulty speaking the Queen’s English?
Because, speaking as someone from England, I feel qualified to say that they speak it a hell of a lot better than you do.