Bulldog and Bullpup Log Part 2

[quote]bulldog9899 wrote:
Ive recently became aware of a gentleman named Paul Carter. Which I have mentioned not to long ago. I was floored by the way he approaches his training and his over all philosophy regarding it. The ideas and opinion mirrors my own or I should say did. It makes me realize that Ive allowed my own lack of confidence in my own knowledge base to hamper my own progression. Ever since I actually got started back into lifting when my shoulder allowed it and I regained my love for it. I realize that Ive allowed myself to become overly saturated on information . Ive foolishly adopted concepts and philosophies from other so called experts. Ive abandoned things which worked for me when I was at my strongest. I’m feed up with myself its time I start drawing on my own experience and actually think for myself. It time for me to reinstate my own philosophy and say to hell with with allot of the shit Ive overloaded myself with since Ive been back at it.[/quote]

X2…Im all ears with your philosophy about this iron stuff.

Paul Carter is my benchmark of how I should lift, no nonsense, heavy training plus back off sets, his opinions on so much stuff outside of lifting echo mine as well.

Bulldog…insert link here? LOL!

[quote]atypical1 wrote:

You should most definitely express your actual opinion and give feedback in other logs too. Hell, that’s the main reason most of us post here right? To get constructive feedback.

james[/quote]

At this point Ill express my opinions on my own log. Ill only give feed back on others only when directly asked.

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

X2…Im all ears with your philosophy about this iron stuff.

Paul Carter is my benchmark of how I should lift, no nonsense, heavy training plus back off sets, his opinions on so much stuff outside of lifting echo mine as well.

Bulldog…insert link here? LOL!
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I wouldn’t go as far as a actual link. LOL…

But I think Ill actual sit down and write more serious stuff about training on here other then my rants.

Honestly, I’ve been debating if I had anything of actual value to give. Then I thought about it. Iv been doing this crap on and off seriously since I was 16. Ive competed in BB, strongman and power lifting. Ive had to deal with a shoulder injury. But yet there are people whom go out of there way to spew there opinions on other parts of T Nation whom have logged less time under the bar and whom have never step on a lifting platform or stage yet they are revered as know all of know all. So I figure what the Hell.


Bullpup went to his first formal Dance tonight. Here is a pick of him getting his swag on .

Oh, dear Lord. He looks like a teen idol rock star. Were you that handsome at his age?

[quote]bulldog9899 wrote:
Honestly, I’ve been debating if I had anything of actual value to give. Then I thought about it. Iv been doing this crap on and off seriously since I was 16. Ive competed in BB, strongman and power lifting. Ive had to deal with a shoulder injury. But yet there are people whom go out of there way to spew there opinions on other parts of T Nation whom have logged less time under the bar and whom have never step on a lifting platform or stage yet they are revered as know all of know all. So I figure what the Hell.[/quote]

Dude, personally, I’d LOVE to know what you think. By default any person who lifts as much as you knows some good stuff. Expert? Who knows… who cares. You can still be a fanastic mentor… especialy to guys like me.

You’re an asset, dogg. Just because you don’t realize it doesn’t mean it’s not true.

I think one of the things that is unique about the O35 forum is that people are open to critique – actually welcome it. We’ve matured to the point where our egos don’t [totally] rule. I think it’s a loss to hold back knowledge you could share. You are ALWAYS welcome to critique on my log. Truly, that’s the only way people get better. Compliments are great, and necessary, but nobody gets better hearing “Great job!” all the time.

Also, I totally know what you mean about letting yourself be influenced by others when you have the experience and know your body best. There is no one-size-fits-all training program. And even nit-picking about lift form has its flaws. Some of the most successful lifters break the rules . . . but it works for them! I try to take advice that I get and sift through it based on what I know works for ME. And the source always has to be considered.

Cute pic of Bullpup. I’m thinking of getting a pic of me and my 13-year-old hockey playing son today. He’s been conspicuously absent from my log.

Great wrestling video, and picture. Its wild watching kids grow up. My 11 yr old is 5ft 7inches, weighs 160 and is wearing a 10.5 sneaker. Got him doing deads/squats bench and military press. hes growing like a weed and eating me outta house and home!

I’ve been training a long time as well, over 30 yrs and I’d love to hear your training ideas. No matter how long you’ve been at it you never know everything, which is part of the draw of the sport.

My drive to train has increased over the years not decreased as I had feared it would. I’m always open to the knowledge of like minded lifters. Theres nothing that I want to hear from a 25 yr old brotard who thinks he knows it all after 5 years of training and a cycle or two.

Hes Sexy, and he knows it…LOL

[quote]cavalier wrote:
Oh, dear Lord. He looks like a teen idol rock star. Were you that handsome at his age?[/quote]
NO!!! The lucky little Bastard!!!

[quote]Canada_K wrote:

Dude, personally, I’d LOVE to know what you think. By default any person who lifts as much as you knows some good stuff. Expert? Who knows… who cares. You can still be a fanastic mentor… especialy to guys like me.

You’re an asset, dogg. Just because you don’t realize it doesn’t mean it’s not true.[/quote]

Thanks Kent. Like I said I figure what the Hell.

[quote]kpsnap wrote:
I think one of the things that is unique about the O35 forum is that people are open to critique – actually welcome it. We’ve matured to the point where our egos don’t [totally] rule. I think it’s a loss to hold back knowledge you could share. You are ALWAYS welcome to critique on my log. Truly, that’s the only way people get better. Compliments are great, and necessary, but nobody gets better hearing “Great job!” all the time…[/quote]

Your right. As much as its a good things to give a person a pat on the back. In powerlifting its a disservice telling someone great job when they are obviously doing something wrong. If someone is wanting to compete in the sport and there only doing 1/4 squat someone better tell them so and not kiss on there rear end.

[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Also, I totally know what you mean about letting yourself be influenced by others when you have the experience and know your body best. There is no one-size-fits-all training program. And even nit-picking about lift form has its flaws. Some of the most successful lifters break the rules . . . but it works for them! I try to take advice that I get and sift through it based on what I know works for ME. And the source always has to be considered…[/quote]

Very true again. If a person would look how the best achieve there level. There’s a good chance they didnt do the exact same thing

[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Cute pic of Bullpup. I’m thinking of getting a pic of me and my 13-year-old hockey playing son today. He’s been conspicuously absent from my log.[/quote]
At first I was hesitant of being so open about myself at least on the Internet. But I figured what the hell. Id like to see a pic of your .

[quote]Jersey Centurion wrote:
Great wrestling video, and picture. Its wild watching kids grow up. My 11 yr old is 5ft 7inches, weighs 160 and is wearing a 10.5 sneaker. Got him doing deads/squats bench and military press. hes growing like a weed and eating me outta house and home!

I’ve been training a long time as well, over 30 yrs and I’d love to hear your training ideas. No matter how long you’ve been at it you never know everything, which is part of the draw of the sport.

My drive to train has increased over the years not decreased as I had feared it would. I’m always open to the knowledge of like minded lifters. Theres nothing that I want to hear from a 25 yr old brotard who thinks he knows it all after 5 years of training and a cycle or two.[/quote]
Very good point. I could do this for another 20 years and still learn something new. Its funny how the long you hang around in doing this, you realise there always something to learn.Of course that does not apply to the new crop of guys whom have been genetically blessed with a born knowledge on training.


Disclaimer: Alright people, I’m going to start sharing my true thoughts on training and it not be a tongue and cheek rant. Like with most things written on line take it with a grain of salt.

Bulldog training: Planned deloads or just sitting on your ass doing nothing

Deloading. Point blank I am not a fan! I do understand the reasoning for it. My issue is ever since 5/3/1 has become popular , everyone and there brother is doing  deloads. Not just from guys that follow 5/3/1 but it seems allot of newer programs are following some sort of planned deload. [Before you devoted bastard get your panties in a bunch I am not knocking 5/3/1 or Wendler himself].

Most of us here knows  the basic drill. Pretty much it has come customary to train 3 weeks then take the fourth off. The reason for is, to help with recovery and warding off over training.   Along with preventing mental burn out. It is a great concept. Trust me; I am all about telling people about the need for proper recovery. I am the first one to explain to someone that in the gym is where you stimulate your body. While being outside of it is where you body does the necessary things to grow and get stronger.

This is all well and good. But the down side of deloading is for that period of time, some one is not actually providing any training stimulation. Yes you might be doing something, but the bottom line is more active recovery then actually training.

That where the issue lies with me. Look at it this way. A person lifts for three weeks then they deload for a week. If one would look at the big picture, In a year a person would be on a deload period a total of 12 weeks. So for almost 3 months out of the year that person is honesty not doing anything to stimulate gains. Psychologically I have a hard time with that one. As I was doing a rough draft of this I found that my thoughts was shared by another. Paul Carter of Lift Run Bang, gives the same example I give above.

Excluding 5/3/1 , again this isn’t about 5/3/1. I’m seeing more and more program designers are using some sort of planned deload. With these planned deloads normally all around the magical fourth week. To me it seems that deloading is becoming a nice little band aid for some of these guys. Instead of writing out programs which modulates volume and intensity smartly. Which might allow for longer progression period before a break is needed. There just dropping in a deload to cover possible flaws in that area.

Another problem with planned deloads in programs that there are too many variables to consider. One person might be able to train hard for eight weeks and have no visible signs of diminished performance. While another person might only be able to deal with training for two weeks. Obviously, physical age would play a factor along with actual experience. Then when you factor in intensity and the volume being used in any giving programs. I find it very hard to consider even worrying about using a planned deload for someone whom is fairly young and is just starting out.

I am really starting to find it amusing what I’m starting to see on line here lately. More and more when someone complains about their gains or I should say lack of. Someone always seems to suggest that person needs to take a deload. Really? Out of all the possible variables that could be the issue ,. Poor eating and sleep habits. Poor executions of the actual lifts. Or, that person just has a plain old terrible program. I ask, how does a actual deload cure that?

Personally, at this point for myself. I would much rather be doing a routine which allows me to train consistent for a long period of time before having to take a short break.

For the record, for anyone reading this. If you are doing a program that you didn’t design yourself. If it calls for a planned deload , I would suggest you should do it. Since who ever wrote it has a reason for it.

For many years, I got in the habit of taking a week of or training very light about every 6 weeks or so. Nobody told me, it seemed that the training just took so much out of me, I needed the recovery.

Of course, it raises the issue of whether I had been eating and / or resting properly. My diet had been crap for a lot of those years.

I had some training every now and then. After 6 weeks of doing a program, it seemed sensible to take a rest.

Dog, you and I are of the same mind of deloads. I will at some point get back to 5/3/1 but I’ll probably only deload every for or so cycles. I just don’t need it every four weeks.

It seems as if I take a forced deload every 2-3 months because of sickness like I am now, I feel like shit, trained yesterday and feel worse because of it. So thats my deload, I dont think I will ever voluntarily deload (unless before a meet) again.

Matty, you get sick every couple of months? Have you tried taking more frequent deloads and see if you were overtraining?

I typically just “deload” by feel. I know if I don’t feel like going to the gym, then I probably shouldn’t because I usually want to train every day. And for regular training, a couple days off is usually enough to get going. Unless I am peaking for a meet, then it is very different.

Bulldog:

I think I’m really going to like the “Bulldog Edition.”

And I put a pic of my 13-year-old son and me in my log.

I agree with you 100%. Although, think that a person should regularly take a break of max effort stuff, and go high repp/lower weight for a week every month or so. But the classic de-load, where you just go at half-effort, seems like a gigantic waste of time.

[quote] Matt wrote:
I typically just “deload” by feel.[/quote]

THIS! ^