Bulking with High Bodyfat?

Training
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[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Iron.Dan wrote:

So if a newb starts out at 160-180 lbs with like 15-20% BF you wouldn’t advice they cut down to 10% first like CT seems to suggest?

Wouldn’t this lead to just getting fatter as they build muscle?
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If a newb who never trained before was less than 20% body fat at only 160lbs (unless very short), hell no. I would have them get on a regular training schedule first to see how their body responds.

You would be ignoring the whole GENETICS portion of this to do anything else. What if that same newb has the genetics to go pro? Do you think he will simply get fatter if he tries to gain as well as start a regular training program?

Also, why 10%? Some people would fine that difficult to reach without losing even more muscle during a period when thy should be growing the fastest.

Further, what about all of these guys under the age of 25 who are wasting precious time running in place or dieting when they will never have the hormonal environment to make gains like that ever again?

Even CT wrote he saw nothing wrong with “15%” body fat in that thread I linked.

I mean, HE WROTE THAT.[/quote]

12-15% isn’t at all unreasonable for an off season %BF during a bulk. But yet again I’m going to say that using %BF as a gauge of anything for beginners is moderately to severely asinine (that’s not directed at you X).

For fatties starting out, it’s just a matter of working light on the big lifts to learn form and cutting down until the BF is at a point where it doesn’t impair performance. Nobody is going to look like a bodybuilder if they haven’t built any muscle yet, so it won’t make sense from a performance OR aesthetic standpoint to get lean before gaining some muscle. Really the only reason to cut when starting out is if you’re too fat to be athletic at all.[/quote]

Bingo…otherwise, all you are doing is wasting time.

And like I keep saying, time is the one thing you can’t afford to waste when it comes to reaching your true potential.

The people who do NEVER GET THERE.

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This thread makes me hate tapas.

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You all just keep letting BALBOS troll-lol-lol away.

SKELAC is an old T-Nation troll named BALBOS…who is a Croat, not Spanish.

Let him go…he is good for the LOLZ, nothing more.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
The “Japanese-Stomping-Rogue” adds a nice little touch too.[/quote]

His Japanese-stomping efforts are only minimally successful- he’s easy to avoid because he only moves when the lighting makes him look lean enough.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
The “Japanese-Stomping-Rogue” adds a nice little touch too.[/quote]

His Japanese-stomping efforts are only minimally successful- he’s easy to avoid because he only moves when the lighting makes him look lean enough.[/quote]

Well, I doubt that happens often enough to catch a lightning fast Japanese feller or two.

On another note I am simply astonished that the Spanish soccer player thought he looked muscular. Vaca santa que copula![/quote]

It’s BALBOS Push…he of cheeeep liquor and women.

He is a soccer hooligan, not a player…for Split Croatia if I recall correctly.

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Bruce Randall,the master of bulking up

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The epic bulking up of Bruce Randall in the 50ies

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:
You all just keep letting BALBOS troll-lol-lol away.

SKELAC is an old T-Nation troll named BALBOS…who is a Croat, not Spanish.

Let him go…he is good for the LOLZ, nothing more.[/quote]

2 questions-

1.do you wrestle?
2.do you eat corn bread?

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I just read 5 pages of fuck knows what.