Most I ever banged was 300 and it was brutal…no way I could handle more… that’s why I’m thinking start at 150 npp & work up…
I’m like 80s style conservative when it comes to juice… I wanna find the smallest dose possible to get gainzzzzzz 
That way I got room to grow for future use without hurting myself
Why not just run prop and npp for 8 weeks ed injections? You theoretically should keep stable levels throughout without major peaks and valleys which should keep you more anabolic. Might even keep estrogen under better control without the spikes.
With short esters I would think insulin needles would work well.
Based on what I’m reading npp or deca would be 200 to 400-500 test
Test prop is generally 100 per ml & it burns… I’ve pinned 200 b4 it’s a bitch… that would be a 3ml pin…yuppie said it could mix with cyp fine… it would be easier to pin that way just a simple 2ml pin
200cyp +100 npp M-W-F makes a ez pin schedule with no pip…butt, butt, leg
Yea thats a good plan too.
The highest i could go with tren when my test was higher was about 200mg. The highest i went with tren when my test was lower was 900mg.
In regards to caber, apparently oestrogen exacerbates sides of prolactin so as long as its kept in range you should be fine. Most likely why I’ve had no issues on my current cycle running NPP and Tren with no test.
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Ever had an echo done? 900mg of tren is r/steroids dose territory
Nope. But I “felt” fine. It was only for a week or 2 just to see how high I could go without sides, I stopped at 900mg but to be honest I think I could have gone to 200mg/d (1400mg) without sides.
Tren just agrees with me, aside from sweats and insomnia I’ve never had any of the mental sides from it.
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So no issues with blood sugar, acne, androgenic sides, blood glucose regulation, cardiovascular endurance, respiratory issues, kidney strain (usually manifests as dark piss), appetite suppressant (or stimulant)? Lipids??
Interesting how some men can’t take even 50mgtren, others can take it but die like 1-2 years down the line (can show case reports of continuous tren usage inducing myocardial infarction or cerebrovascular events in young men), others (somewhat minority) can take it like TRT for many years and get off scot free. When we figure out the genetic component I’ll make sure to modify myself to be immune to EVEEERRRYYYTTTTHHHINGGGG.
Did you’re skin at the time by chance happen to have the texture of a very veiny, erect penis?
I never get issues with acne, with or without AAS. I may get the odd pimple here and there when I’m injecting large quantities of oil (eg. when frontloading EQ) but other than that, no acne issues.
No androgenic sides, beard seems to grow back slightly quicker but thats about it. Can’t comment on blood sugar but never feel like I go hypo if I don’t eat. Slight appetite suppression, no anxiety and no dark piss (this would scare the hell out of me, I freak out when anything abnormal related to my penis manifests lol).
No respiratory issues either but yes cardio was slightly impacted, not winded going up the stairs as some people suggest, but after a heavy set of high rep squats, yes it takes longer to get my breath back.
Lipids I can’t comment on, during tren use they must be out of whack, have never checked but have done bloods post cycle and lipids are normal.
I was vascular yes, but I’ve always had veins even when I’m at higher bodyfat levels, tren just amplifies it.
I need to state however, I get MOST of the above sides as soon as testosterone dose goes up. @unreal24278
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My lipids from Monday. Currently running test, tren, mast, dbol, gonna be adding some adrol to finish blast. This is also coming off 3 weeks of the superdrol/tren base mix. Everyone’s body is affected differently as you can see my total and triglycerides are perfectly fine my HDL is a lil low and LDL is climbing but overall it’s not having an impact on the bigger picture.
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Actually that doesn’t look too bad
My total cholesterol is like 190
HDL 45 ldl 120 ish
From what I recall my trigs were super, super low, like 40 or something
This was on 250mg test/wk
It usually doesn’t get any worse then this. Granted I haven’t run more then about 1.5 grams a week of total gear but that is usually made up of test, tren, mast and oral(s). Idk what effect say 2 grams would have but I won’t be finding out anytime soon. My understanding is from doctors that the the big things to watch are total and tris. As long as tho stay low then ldl/HDL aren’t to much of a concern. Normally when I go back to my cruise 150 gest 100mast/werk my total and tris will drop a bit and my hdl/LDL will go to around 50/70 respectively. My liver is much more effected from my aas use then my lipids but even that doesn’t get to wacky even on harsh orals ran for 6 weeks and drops back to normal values about 45 days into my cruise
Are you zinc deficient (low alkaline phosphate) or on an intensive cutting diet
Others don’t look too bad considering 3 wks on sdrol. Anecdotally (and structurally) sdrol is a good deal more hepatotoxic compared to dbol, anadrol etc. do you donate blood (if excess erythrocytosis develops), get renal functions checked? Kidney damage is a very overlooked aspect of AAS, esp long term use of orals
I dont think so. I take a men’s multi daily I was wondering about that value. Maybe I should add some zinc?
I dont dontate because HTC and rbc is never high altho here my rbc is getting a little high my HTC is slightly above bottom of range.
I have a question about some other values on my test I’m gonna shoot you an email whenever you get a chance tell me what you think
Sure thing, email me anytime. I’ll check it asap and get back to you
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Did my research let me know if this sounds reasonable…
Test cyp 200x3 M-W-F Weeks 1-12
NPP 100x3 Weeks 2-12
T-bol 25mg M-SU Weeks 1-2 (should this be higher or longer)
Winny 50mg Weeks 10-12 (thought why not try it as a finisher to harden up)
Run caber .25 EOD, Anastozle .5 EOD, HCG 500 week or as needed
Milk thistle & liver support plus multis , omega 3s ect through cycle
Bulking diet 20xbw = cals 2g per lb protein, 1.5 carbs, .5 fat
Seem ok?
Thanks I sent it from my Proton mail
I personally saw most benefits at 50-60mg/day. Anything higher gave me headaches and anything lower didn’t give any benefits. Start at 25mg and taper up to a dose you can handle bro.
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Looks good. I agree with what @Singhbuilder said about the tbol. It gave me bad headaches so I stopped it right away. But if you can taper up to 50mg and handle it then you should see some real benefits. Do you have some mast in your stash? If so keep it at the ready in case you need a DHT to throw in to (potentially) counteract the NPP. I’m not saying that it’s guaranteed to work, but a lot of people have been able to stop the nandrolone libido issues that way. So treat it like a gun: hope you don’t need it but have it anyway.
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