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[quote]axisT6 wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I cannot say I understand but I wish you luck.
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Straps supplement your grip. What I am trying to do is rely only on my forearm muscles to keep my fingers wrapped around the bar.[/quote]

I understand what you mean, I don’t understand it being a goal. It sounds more like a method to me.

Generally, for training, my goals are outcome based. “Add 50lbs to my deadlift”, “put on 5lbs of muscle”, etc, and I use whatever methods it takes to get there. Straps, no straps, deadlift bar, barbell, axle, etc.

I cannot understand your goal, but it is your goal. It’s why I wish you luck in pursuing it.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
I don’t share these concerns but maybe I’m wrong. It’s possible there could be extra unwanted torque on wrists but I dunno.

I too’d like to see the vid.[/quote]

The wrist angle is also where I see possible room for concern. Having the handles completely parallel to the barbell is going to make it difficult to get the shoulders behind the bar at the start of the pull. It’s going to be like deadlifting a log.

A slight angle backward would probably make it a little more friendly.

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[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]axisT6 wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I cannot say I understand but I wish you luck.
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Straps supplement your grip. What I am trying to do is rely only on my forearm muscles to keep my fingers wrapped around the bar.[/quote]

I understand what you mean, I don’t understand it being a goal. It sounds more like a method to me.

Generally, for training, my goals are outcome based. “Add 50lbs to my deadlift”, “put on 5lbs of muscle”, etc, and I use whatever methods it takes to get there. Straps, no straps, deadlift bar, barbell, axle, etc.

I cannot understand your goal, but it is your goal. It’s why I wish you luck in pursuing it.
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I understand where you are coming from now.

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[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I don’t share these concerns but maybe I’m wrong. It’s possible there could be extra unwanted torque on wrists but I dunno.

I too’d like to see the vid.[/quote]

The wrist angle is also where I see possible room for concern. Having the handles completely parallel to the barbell is going to make it difficult to get the shoulders behind the bar at the start of the pull. It’s going to be like deadlifting a log.

A slight angle backward would probably make it a little more friendly.[/quote]

When I start a deadlift, my shoulders are directly over the bar. If you were to view me from the side, You could draw a straight vertical line from my shoulders, down my arms, through the bar, and through the middle of my foot. The bar is also touching my shins as well.

As I pull, the bar stays in contact with my legs all the way through lock out, and the bar only moves straight up. I basically do exactly what is described from the Starting Strength book.

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[quote]axisT6 wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I don’t share these concerns but maybe I’m wrong. It’s possible there could be extra unwanted torque on wrists but I dunno.

I too’d like to see the vid.[/quote]

The wrist angle is also where I see possible room for concern. Having the handles completely parallel to the barbell is going to make it difficult to get the shoulders behind the bar at the start of the pull. It’s going to be like deadlifting a log.

A slight angle backward would probably make it a little more friendly.[/quote]

When I start a deadlift, my shoulders are directly over the bar. If you were to view me from the side, You could draw a straight vertical line from my shoulders, down my arms, through the bar, and through the middle of my foot. The bar is also touching my shins as well.

As I pull, the bar stays in contact with my legs all the way through lock out, and the bar only moves straight up. I basically do exactly what is described from the Starting Strength book.

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That could be the issue. I’m not a fan of how Rippetoe teaches the dealift, but I imagine you’d be able to pull with this style using your current set-up.

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[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]axisT6 wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I don’t share these concerns but maybe I’m wrong. It’s possible there could be extra unwanted torque on wrists but I dunno.

I too’d like to see the vid.[/quote]

The wrist angle is also where I see possible room for concern. Having the handles completely parallel to the barbell is going to make it difficult to get the shoulders behind the bar at the start of the pull. It’s going to be like deadlifting a log.

A slight angle backward would probably make it a little more friendly.[/quote]

When I start a deadlift, my shoulders are directly over the bar. If you were to view me from the side, You could draw a straight vertical line from my shoulders, down my arms, through the bar, and through the middle of my foot. The bar is also touching my shins as well.

As I pull, the bar stays in contact with my legs all the way through lock out, and the bar only moves straight up. I basically do exactly what is described from the Starting Strength book.

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That could be the issue. I’m not a fan of how Rippetoe teaches the dealift, but I imagine you’d be able to pull with this style using your current set-up.
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That is my concern though. When you start to pull a proper conventional dead, your shoulders should be in front of the bar. Ok, people have issues with Rip, I get it. But his heart is in the right place and he has helped many pull better.

Also, I was thinking about the additional torque on the wrists. You need them to be in the most anatomically neutral position that you can manage. I would like to see the video of this as well. I could be completely off base. So please post.

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I don’t have any issues with Rippetoe. I just disagree with his perspective on some techniques.

It just means that, if someone is using those techniques, my advice probably won’t help them.

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Here is the video. It is quick and unedited, however I think it clears things up. Notice the bar pulls straight, and does not try to torque my wrists given that I am pulling from a point above centerline (albeit close).

I realize this is not I deal, however this was/is an experiment in try to actually do a parallel grip dead. It worked. The next step for me is to buy an actual trap bar and add a piece that rides against the front of my legs like a straight barbell.

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Ok, this forum seems to work differently than the others I am on. How does one post a photobucket video to THIS forum?

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[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
dude. oh dude. no, no, no, no, no…dude.

You have the shit impressed out of me up until this point.

Spend $120.00 on Amazon with free shipping and get a Trap/Hex bar and call it good.

You are going to spend a shitload more for your orthopedic surgeries if you use this…

oh oh oh dude.[/quote]

I agree with this in that I’ve bought 3 Trap Bar/Hex Bars and never paid more than 50 bucks (Craigslist). I don’t see why this bar he’s built is an injury waiting to happen. Since he’s got it, he may as well use it. It’s kinda cool.

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Here is the video. I redid it because the last video only showed the side view.

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axisT6, I stand corrected. Good Form and an interesting take on the deadlift.

I still think a trap bar would provide a better crossover, but if this works…cool.

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[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
axisT6, I stand corrected. Good Form and an interesting take on the deadlift.

I still think a trap bar would provide a better crossover, but if this works…cool.[/quote]

Thanks. I agree a trap bar would be better. This was just an experiment using stuff I already had. I wanted to see if I could pull the same weight with a parallel grip that I can with a mixed grip. Turns out I can.

The next step is to get a trap bar and add a piece that will make it follow the same path as a regular barbell.

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Really quick, what would you say was you total COST output for your homemade Rack ?

I am really liking it and may want to build one myself !

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Nice! I think that the attachment would work really good as alternate take on bent over rows. I would even go as far as removing the extra length on the handles and use it as an over head press. I feel that a neutral grip hits the muscles differently and can be more advantageous than traditional supinated or pronated grips.

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[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Really quick, what would you say was you total COST output for your homemade Rack ?

I am really liking it and may want to build one myself ![/quote]

All said I have about $650 into it. This does not include the cost of fabrication tools or the fact I have a hook up on materials and fabrication services.

The hooks were engineered and drawn up by me and a shop cut them out.

I had shops also drill the uprights, and make my big splice plates.

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Not sure about the deadlifts but it must be said that this is a pretty sweet setup.

Personally, I don’t like having the rack in the way of the platform (as I am a lazy fuck) but you also wouldn’t want to have to even out another 6 foot of floor.

Can we see the “monolift” in action please? I’m having trouble understanding how it works for you over ordinary hooks.

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Also made these. I was tired of having to wrestle the 45s on the bar (call me lazy…meh) during deadlifts. Then I saw the Rogue wagon wheels… Then I saw the price! Oooof! Hence, why I went this route.

These plates are cut from 1" plate, are about 22" diameter, and powder coated black. They also weigh 109 lbs. each. As you can see, loading 45s will no longer be a problem.

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