I don’t have any advice about the SURGE Workout Fuel…
I purchased dome SURGE Recovery not too long ago, only to discover I don’t actually need it…I guess it’s not typically for people in the fat loss stage, nor for those who are sensitive to carbs…duh, I knew that!
I guess it’s up to you really, and what you want to spend your $$$$ on…if SURGE Recovery is working and you are fine with it, why change? You could always just get a tub of the new stuff just to try it out…doesn’t mean you to make the full switch, you know?
[quote]sbmart2 wrote:
Does anyone who uses T-Nation’s Biotest products have any thoughts on the NEW SURGE Workout Fuel? I have used the regular SURGE Recovery for a really long time. I couldn’t afford getting both of them. Should I stick to the old stuff or start taking BCAA pills and taking the NEW SURGE Workout Fuel instead? Any thoughts?
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So a few things:
SURGE Workout Fuel: It’s fucking amazing, but would never replace what SURGE Recovery does. I used some back in June once (leftover from one of the guy’s Physique Clinics), but we both bought some and I used it when I was training with him in Cali this past week. The only way to really describe it is that you don’t feel tired. I feel mentally alert and like I could keep training forever. I’ll use it for my training now leading up to my PL meet and use it that day for sure.
It’s really a personal choice as to what you use if you’re only going to use one. I might even suggest buying a tub of the SURGE Workout Fuel, continuing with the SURGE Recovery, but use the SURGE Workout Fuel on your heavy/high volume weeks and definitely on Moving Day.
Maximum Strength: I didn’t really have an appreciation for this program until I went and visited Bartl who is on week 11 now. I did two lower body and one upper body session with him and it’s insane. I was flipping through the book just seeing everything he’s done and it’s pretty amazing. I bet you’ll see some killer strength gains by the end!
SURGE Workout Fuel: It’s fucking amazing, but would never replace what SURGE Recovery does. I used some back in June once (leftover from one of the guy’s Physique Clinics), but we both bought some and I used it when I was training with him in Cali this past week. The only way to really describe it is that you don’t feel tired. I feel mentally alert and like I could keep training forever. I’ll use it for my training now leading up to my PL meet and use it that day for sure.
It’s really a personal choice as to what you use if you’re only going to use one. I might even suggest buying a tub of the SURGE Workout Fuel, continuing with the SURGE Recovery, but use the SURGE Workout Fuel on your heavy/high volume weeks and definitely on Moving Day. [/quote]
Thanks Court and mom-in-MD for your advice on the New Surge. I think I will try it after Christmas when I have a little more room in my budget. I kind of wish I had some this week. These cluster sets are killing me. After what you had to say I am definitely not going to ditch it for the Surge recovery. Surge recovery is the reason I can move after my workouts.
So I am about to start my 7th week. On saturday I did my 1 rep max on bench from packing day for 2 sets of 3. That got me totally excited for next week when I get to test my 1 rm again. I’m hoping to be able to hit 140. I think the only thing that I don’t like about Max Strength is that I know that it ends. I’ve learned some really cool lifts that make me feel like a total bad ass in the gym. It makes up for how ridiculous I know I look during the warm-ups.
SO thursday and Friday I came down with the flu. I was bummed out because it caused me to miss my workouts. Well when Saturday came along I was all gung ho to make up for my Friday workout and then do my Saturday session on Sunday. NO problem right! WRONG!!!
As I was doing my Deadlifts I guess I got a little too gung ho and added too much weight. I guess my math skills were a little off kilter. SO anyway I lifted it for five but used terrible technique and totally fucked up my back. I think I strained it pretty good.
I’ve decided to take a couple weeks off to ensure that I completely heal before I jump back in to lifting. I guess it kind of works out because my gym (University gym) will be closed from the 24-Jan 4. I was going to get a temporary membership to the YMCA but I guess I won’t be needing that. I will start at the beginning of the third phase of the Max strength program when I start lifting again. THIS JUST REALLY SUCKS.
Minus a few holiday meals I plan on following the PN diet VERY closely. I don’t want to gain back the fat that I have lost so far.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
I’m glad to hear your back is all sorted out and you are back at it.
I recently flicked something in my back but it wasn’t serious fortunately.
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Thanks, I hope your holiday was good as well.
I’m just glad I got hurt around the holiday. I think it was my Christmas present from fate. It aloud me to not get stressed about missing workouts because of gym closures near the holidays. I can be pretty insane about workouts when I get in the groove of things.
Although my numbers felt low and my energy was sub maximal, this day was a huge success. I have been tired and lethargic and pissy all day. It took some crazy will power to get to the gym today. And of course, I now feel awake and happy because I went. It’s funny, I know that I will feel good if I just go but its so hard to convince myself before hand on days like these.
I can’t wait to go home and sleep. I have not slept well for a couple nights in a row do to extenuating circumstances. Tonight I will take some Z-12 and sleep like the dead.
Today was an energy system day. It consisted of a circuit of lifts done 3 times. Each lift was done for 15 to 20 reps. No rest until the circuit is complete.
Straight leg db deadlift 20lb dbs
Reverse lunge 10lb dbs
Push ups
Bent over row 15lb dbs
Xband walk
Side bridge for 30 seconds per side
skull crushers with bar 30lbs
bicep curls 10lbs
2 minute rest
Tomorrow I am doing deadlifts for the first time since I hurt my back. I am definitely going to put form before weight. I have to remember that this will be better for progression in the long run!!!
I’m really working on my deadlift form. I want to make sure that I am not straightening my legs before I even pull the weight off the ground. I read that people with bad knees tend to do this. So I am going to check my ego, keep the weight down and keep my form solid! I figure less weight and good form now means solid progression later on down the road.
I’m really working on my deadlift form. I want to make sure that I am not straightening my legs before I even pull the weight off the ground. I read that people with bad knees tend to do this. So I am going to check my ego, keep the weight down and keep my form solid! I figure less weight and good form now means solid progression later on down the road.[/quote]
If you have a digital camera, try taking a video of it from the side. Plenty of people around here to take a look and help you with form.
If you have a digital camera, try taking a video of it from the side. Plenty of people around here to take a look and help you with form.[/quote]
I’m going to try to do this over the weekend! I think you are right. It will help me tweak what I’m doing (if I have some corrections to make) and make me more confident with the lift.
If you have a digital camera, try taking a video of it from the side. Plenty of people around here to take a look and help you with form.
I’m going to try to do this over the weekend! I think you are right. It will help me tweak what I’m doing (if I have some corrections to make) and make me more confident with the lift.
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I hear you. I’m finally getting over the issues I had in my head about deadlifting since that’s the only lift that was effected when I hurt my back. It’s taken different people watching and helping with form as well as lots of reps for me to be comfortable with it again.
That said, I’m DL’ing heavy tonight for the last time before my meet. As long as I don’t feel pain during my lifts, I’m okay with feeling tightness/pain afterwards. My chiro told me to expect that given the messy state my back was in before.
I have to redo the deadlift recording tonight. I filmed it sideways and I can’t figure out how to flip it. Needless to say, I’m technologically inept. I am going to record it tonight. So hopefully I will have it up in time to get some feedback before I deadlift again on Friday!!!
So here is the video of my deadlift at 155 lbs. I’m looking for any feedback about my form. I want to make sure that I am doing it right before I start pushing up the weight.
